Dream Plastic Surgery

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adora10Review19 December 12-100
sharing my experience. had my nose (narrow bridge, alar base, tip) done in cinderella. am 2 days post op.

went to the following clinics:
1) jw – warm reception. ladies at the recep and consultant look very pretty. but also very fake and plastic. this was a turn off even before i went in. big eyes, tall nose, small face. didn’t get to meet with Dr as he was in surgery. 6 million won – narrow bridge, augment bridge using nose material, tip. did not bargain/negotiate.

2) dream – translator and i din fancy this place. insisted on silicone. said i could go for other clinics if i wanted to use my own material. did not note the price.

3) migo – warm reception. liked the consultant. she seemed the most professional. met with dr kang for a bit he was rushing for a surgery. 6.5 million won – bridge augmentation using nose material, narrow bridge, tip. did not bargain/negotiate

4) cinderella – warm reception. liked their english translator. she’s really friendly. consultant is professional. i met with dr hong their rhino specialist for a while. basically he was rushing in and out of surgery, and could only prod around my nose and decide what needed to be done. 5.6 million won – narrow bridge, tip, remove some excess fats from nose. it was a toss up between migo and cinderella. i decided on cinderella because i remember before & after noses of migo looking pretty similar – same upturned tip. i decided on cinderella because it was the whole package – nice reception, nice translator, nice consultant, although i felt the dr was too busy to really sit down and listen. i made sure i emphasised that i didn’t want a thin sharp nose tip and too tall bridge.

on day of operation, consultant came in to tell me that dr said i had to do alar because my base was broad and it would be an additional 1 million won. i was really peeved because it was such a last min thing and dr could have pointed out before i confirmed on which clinic to go. they said if i din have enough cash i could come back again. this got me fuming mad as it made me feel as though they only wanted money and not what’s best for your nose. the best thing was? i had to pay before i went into surgery. i was willing to hand them my passport, and swap it when i changed money. the consultant insisted that all money had to be in before surgery. i did not want to make things difficult so i have them my sgd1k. using a rate of 870 is 870,000. by right i should have a change of 70,000 but that they did not even want to give. true colours. i was totally pissed off with cinderella just half an hour before my surgery.

decided to let it go, and go into surgery. i saw dr 5 mins again before being led away to change. decided to use song hye gyo as a guide, and i once again repeated i did not want sharp nose or high bridge, and showed him noses which i felt were ugly.

once i changed into surgery clothes, washed my face, was led into the operating room. was given GA thinking i’m so wide awake, next thing nurse was calling my name.

– i will continue sharing more –

btw my nose was put into a nasal split because i did bone bridge narrowing. and my tip looks sharp like a triangle. can anyone advise if this will come down? or is it cos my nose is following the shape of the split since it is taped up? it is depressing seeing such a sharp nose!
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/best-plastic-surgery-clinics-in-korea-read-1st-post-before-posting.780226/page-159#post-23541919
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agacciReview12 Feb 15100
Hi,

It has beena while since my post.

I didn?t want to rush to post here with my progress until I have clear view on this topic.

I had beenback to Korea since my last post.

To cut the long story short – aculift wasn’tworkable(it could have worked on younger skin) but I had a fat graft oncheek area where it had become quite flat after facelift, and it is slightly bettersince.

Red scarsbehind ears are a lot better and can’t see much of redness.

De-swellingcontinues even after 1year mark, and my face looks a lot more natural than itwasa year ago.

I had onesteroid injection on raised scars behind ears by the local surgeon, and it?sworking well and it has gone down a lot.

One side ofear is slightly pulled back at the bottom. I was told it would be ok after allsettled down but I am not holding my breath on that.

So it’s alot of improvement after 1year. But would I do this again after been through allthis? My answer will be 50/50. Some partof my face has gotten better and younger, but I feel I have lost naturalbeauty and suffered quite a bit along the way.

However IfI start from the scratch, I would have out sought a reputable local surgeon who isspecialised in facelift instead of going all the way to Korea. The price savingdidn’t justify for the travel cost and anxiety etc in my case.

Anyway for thosewho will choose to go through this path I wish all the best and lots of luck.
Fat Graft, Skin Treatment
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/facelift-surgery.856718/page-6#post-28068886
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angleplaneRumor13 Aug 11-100
Part 19

XIV/ I am not revealing the surgeon’s name

I am doing so on the forum because, my case is still unfinished and I remember that when I went to Dr Jung’s manager (Jay Lee) he said he’d prefer that I do not see Dr Jung because they don’t want VIP clinic to think that they still their clients. He said VIP marketing power is very powerful. Also, Dr Jung would accept to fix me only if I ask Dr Lee first to ask Dr Jung to do so. I met a forumer in my linvingtel in my 2nd Korea trip and she said that Dr Jung corrected some VIP patients. Nevertheless, I also think that Dr Lee has done revisions on Dr Jung’s patients.
Also, all the rhinoplasty specialists in Seoul know each other and they respect each other. I always said that Dr Lee was a good surgeon but said that rib cartilage was too stiff, they all understood and they would have done the revision for me. They correct Dr Lee’s patients, as well as Dr Lee may have done revisions on their own patients too.

XV/ Prices for rhinoplasties

-rib rhinoplasty at VIP : USD 9000, add USD5000 if rib revision -to remove the rib-, so total rib revision is USD14 000 (or a bit more than 14 000 000 KW), add USD1500 for paranasal implant or maxilla implant.

-rib revision at Dr Suh : KW 5 000 000 (KW1000 is a bit less than a dollar)

-rib revision at Dr Paik (101) : KW 6 000 000

-rib revision at Dr Kim (April31) : KW 5 000 000

-rib revision at Dr Jung : USD5500 (rib rhinoplasty is USD8500 because it includes the harvesting of the rib)

You see these differences in price and you must think VIP clinic must be the best. It is not the case, Dr Lee is a good doctor but the others are very good too as they are university professors or have important positions in rhinoplasty commitees.
I had a lot of money to spend before my Korea trips and I thought I would not make a choice based on money, but only on quality. So, I thought I’d go for VIP as I thought the price must justify the high pricing. But the only thing you pay is airport pickup, accommodation and two nights in the recovery room that you don’t get at other clinics. It’s a service for foreigners who like to be taken in charge from the day of arrival until the end. Once we’re in that VIP atmosphere, we’re left with the impression that only VIP is a safe place with a good after sales service but it is not the case. After my rib revision, I was offered a teeth whitening of a value of KW 200 000 and they offered to accompany me to other clinics and act as translators (without getting a commission as I said to which clinic I wanted to go to). They gave me pictures of the actual surgeries, whereas in VIP they refused to even give me before and after pictures they’ve taken of me. And the staff at the clinic where I had the nose revision spent hours advising me on where to go to visit Seoul (shopping, museum etc.) and most importantly they did not remind me that they did a favor for me like “we fed you when you were hungry”, when you actually never asked for anything. That’s just a detail, but the thing is the price is almost double and it only includes the accommodation and pick up, no other extra services, or maybe the facials and shampoo, but still, the price is not justified, not even by the quality of the nose job which is just equal to others. At least it gives them enough means to have a powerful marketing power and probably enough money to pay English speaking people or old patients to praise their clinic on the forum (even though they already have the pressure of free revision). Also, I always found it weird that people would come on the forum to just day that they are happy about their VIP rhinoplasty. We never see patients from other clinics going on the forum just to drop a line and say that they are happy without bringing info about their experience or the consultation they had.
Anyway, compared to other Korean clinics that are sometimes better, VIP clinic is just overpriced.

In general, a tip work for a primary rhinoplasty with alarplasty is around 2 500 000 KW (a bit less than USD2500) in most clinic even those where the Korean stars go to (eg: Dream clinic -I do not recommend Dream for eyelid surgery though-, Dream seems to be good for natural, small corrections and closed rhinoplasty that I recommend over open rhinoplasties for primary nose job).

Dr. Moo Hyun Paik : 101 Plastic Surgery Clinic http://www.ps101.co.kr/language/index1.jsp
Dr. Young Hwan Oh : O & Young Plastic Surgery Clinic http://koclub.com/
Dr. Man Koon Suh : Jung Won Plastic Surgery Clinic http://jwbeauty.net/
Dr. Jae Hoon Kim : April 31 Clinic http://www.april31.co.kr/
Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-2.532179/page-545#post-19666437
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angleplaneRumor13 Aug 11100
Part 19

XIV/ I am not revealing the surgeon’s name

I am doing so on the forum because, my case is still unfinished and I remember that when I went to Dr Jung’s manager (Jay Lee) he said he’d prefer that I do not see Dr Jung because they don’t want VIP clinic to think that they still their clients. He said VIP marketing power is very powerful. Also, Dr Jung would accept to fix me only if I ask Dr Lee first to ask Dr Jung to do so. I met a forumer in my linvingtel in my 2nd Korea trip and she said that Dr Jung corrected some VIP patients. Nevertheless, I also think that Dr Lee has done revisions on Dr Jung’s patients.
Also, all the rhinoplasty specialists in Seoul know each other and they respect each other. I always said that Dr Lee was a good surgeon but said that rib cartilage was too stiff, they all understood and they would have done the revision for me. They correct Dr Lee’s patients, as well as Dr Lee may have done revisions on their own patients too.

XV/ Prices for rhinoplasties

-rib rhinoplasty at VIP : USD 9000, add USD5000 if rib revision -to remove the rib-, so total rib revision is USD14 000 (or a bit more than 14 000 000 KW), add USD1500 for paranasal implant or maxilla implant.

-rib revision at Dr Suh : KW 5 000 000 (KW1000 is a bit less than a dollar)

-rib revision at Dr Paik (101) : KW 6 000 000

-rib revision at Dr Kim (April31) : KW 5 000 000

-rib revision at Dr Jung : USD5500 (rib rhinoplasty is USD8500 because it includes the harvesting of the rib)

You see these differences in price and you must think VIP clinic must be the best. It is not the case, Dr Lee is a good doctor but the others are very good too as they are university professors or have important positions in rhinoplasty commitees.
I had a lot of money to spend before my Korea trips and I thought I would not make a choice based on money, but only on quality. So, I thought I’d go for VIP as I thought the price must justify the high pricing. But the only thing you pay is airport pickup, accommodation and two nights in the recovery room that you don’t get at other clinics. It’s a service for foreigners who like to be taken in charge from the day of arrival until the end. Once we’re in that VIP atmosphere, we’re left with the impression that only VIP is a safe place with a good after sales service but it is not the case. After my rib revision, I was offered a teeth whitening of a value of KW 200 000 and they offered to accompany me to other clinics and act as translators (without getting a commission as I said to which clinic I wanted to go to). They gave me pictures of the actual surgeries, whereas in VIP they refused to even give me before and after pictures they’ve taken of me. And the staff at the clinic where I had the nose revision spent hours advising me on where to go to visit Seoul (shopping, museum etc.) and most importantly they did not remind me that they did a favor for me like “we fed you when you were hungry”, when you actually never asked for anything. That’s just a detail, but the thing is the price is almost double and it only includes the accommodation and pick up, no other extra services, or maybe the facials and shampoo, but still, the price is not justified, not even by the quality of the nose job which is just equal to others. At least it gives them enough means to have a powerful marketing power and probably enough money to pay English speaking people or old patients to praise their clinic on the forum (even though they already have the pressure of free revision). Also, I always found it weird that people would come on the forum to just day that they are happy about their VIP rhinoplasty. We never see patients from other clinics going on the forum just to drop a line and say that they are happy without bringing info about their experience or the consultation they had.
Anyway, compared to other Korean clinics that are sometimes better, VIP clinic is just overpriced.

In general, a tip work for a primary rhinoplasty with alarplasty is around 2 500 000 KW (a bit less than USD2500) in most clinic even those where the Korean stars go to (eg: Dream clinic -I do not recommend Dream for eyelid surgery though-, Dream seems to be good for natural, small corrections and closed rhinoplasty that I recommend over open rhinoplasties for primary nose job).

Dr. Moo Hyun Paik : 101 Plastic Surgery Clinic http://www.ps101.co.kr/language/index1.jsp
Dr. Young Hwan Oh : O & Young Plastic Surgery Clinic http://koclub.com/
Dr. Man Koon Suh : Jung Won Plastic Surgery Clinic http://jwbeauty.net/
Dr. Jae Hoon Kim : April 31 Clinic http://www.april31.co.kr/
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-2.532179/page-545#post-19666437
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anna85Review14 Sep 14100
I’m currently in Korea and I had consultation with dr Park on Friday. Actually I expected him to be a nice and open minded person after reading your thread but I’m disappointed. He’s polite, he seems to be a skilled surgeons but he didn’t talk much. I didn’t have a real exchange with him, I asked questions and he asnwered in a general way. he’s a calm person, sometimes he did smile slightly but I couldn’t feel comfortable with him. But Daphne, she’s an angel! She’s cute, gentle, she took care of me during the consultation and offered me a very good deal. The consultant too, she was soooo nice. They didn’t give me the “commercial / marketing attitude” that bothers me like other clinics. I felt so comfortable with these two girls that I almost got my operation there, but finally I visited other clinics and feel like dr Park’s nose style wasn’t my favourite. I’ll get the operation tomorrow, I’ll surely make a thread about it to help others going to Seoul for revision rhinoplasty like me.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-plastic-surgery-with-dream-medical-group.867732/page-20#post-27393599
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anna85Review19 September 14-100
Hi guys,
I’m currently in Seoul and 4 days ago I had undergone my revision rhinoplasty.
Just like many of you, I did research on my own. Thanks to purseforum members’ reviews, I’ve learnt alot about PS and Korean doctors. That’s why I feel like it’s my turn now to share with you my experience, hoping that it helps.
I arrived in Seoul 1 week ago. At first I wanted to consult with 5 clinics, which are said to have the best rhino surgeons in Seoul: Dr Park at Dream, dr Suh at JW Beauty, dr Kim at April 31, dr Kim at Item Clinic, and another doctor at 101 PS clinic. Unfortunately, just before my arrival there was national holidays in Korea (from 8 to 10th September) so doctors at Item and 101 PS clinic just left Korea and won’t be back before the end of September.
So finally, I consulted with doctor Park at Dream, doctor Suh at JW Beauty, doctor Kim at April 31.
Here are some of my experiences in consulting with the clinics:

1) dr Park at Dream:
Before going to Seoul, I was almost sure about getting my revision rhino with doctor Park. Since I’d been doing research during 2 years before my trip, I know that Dream is one of the most well known clinics for rhino in Korea, beside April 31, 101 and JW. I read alot of reviews about him with different opinions. As for me, I expected him to be a nice and open minded person after reading someone’s thread but I’m disappointed. He’s polite, he seems to be a skilled surgeons but he didn’t talk much. I couldn’t have a real exchange with him, I asked specific questions but he answered in a general way. he’s a calm person, sometimes he did smile slightly but I couldn’t feel comfortable with him. His analyses about my deviated nose was really short, I felt like he wanted to make it quick.
But Daphne, she’s an angel! She’s cute, gentle, she took care of me during the consultation and offered me a very good deal. The consultant too, she was soooo nice. They didn’t give me the “commercial / marketing attitude” that bothers me like other clinics. I felt so comfortable with these two girls that I almost got my operation there, but finally I visited other clinics and realised that dr Park’s nose style wasn’t my favourite. He creates natural nose, which I like, but the nose tip looks a litle too short in before/after pictures they showed me.
And the consultant’s nose looked really bad, her tip was lifted too high so that her nostrils showed up too much. her nose really turned me off :sad:, this is the reason why I didn’t choose Dream in spite of the very good deal that they offered me.

2) dr Suh at JW Beauty

Well JW surely offers the best price in the market. dr Suh was nice, but he only performs open rhinoplasty so I didn’t choose him. I’m really scare of the scarring. I don’t know if i’m right, but 2 days ago I met a girl in my guest house who had undergone her rhino with doctor Suh. The scarring was really obvious, which is normal ’cause she’s only 1 week post op, but she told me that she needed to stay longer than expected because her nose hasn’t been healed fast enough for the stitches to be removed on time. I’m told that it’ll take more time for your nose to be healed with open rhino…

3) Dr Kim Jae Hoon at April 31

This is the clinic I choose for my revision rhinoplasty. I liked everything in this clinic, the very skilled doctor, the friendly staff and nurses, the consultant’s perfect nose (the real example is important right? lol)
Before having my appointment with dr Kim Jae Hoon, I was told that April 31 is pretty pricey because doctor kim Jae Hoon is really famous in Korea for rhino. I told myself, okay I shouldn’t expect too much here, the doctor wouldn’t have enough time to answer all my questions. But I was wrong! Doctor Kim Jae Hoon was sooo friendly, informed and professional. After checking my CT scan, he took time to explain to me what’s wrong with my nose, why it’s deviated and which method should be used. He smiled with me and my friend all the time. Oh I forgot to mention, I was accompanied by a friend who was interested in revision rhino too but she didn’t book the appointment. When she was in the consultation room with me, she asked him questions about her nose too and he answered them all, even he knew that she wouldn’t have the operation with him. He made me feel really comfortable and I trusted him naturally. Most of all, if you could see the consultant’s nose. Oh my god it is perfect! Her nose bridge is high yet natural and very feminine, you guys should go there and check it yourself. Her nostrils aren’t shown up at all, unlike Dream consultant’s nose, which was really reinsuring! Another factor which made me choose April 31 is that it’s also well known among local clients. Everytime I came there, there were alot of korean clients. There’s one korean girl who talked to me, she came there for revision rhino too and she said that doctor Kim Jae Hoon is the best. I think that it’s important to know Korean clients’ opinion, because there are doctors who are famouse oversea thanks to their international marketing strategies but no korean knows about them.
So for all these reasons, although April 31 is the most pricey I still choosed them. Now I’m 4th days post ops. I’ll show you pictures soon when I can get rid of these chipmuck cheeks lol. Wish me luck :p
If you guys have any questions that I can answer, about the trip, consultation experience, don’t hesitate! I travel alone so I understand that it could be difficult
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/nose-revision-my-recent-experience-with-dream-april-31-jw-beauty.881663/
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anne10331Review5 Sep 11100
It’s been a few weeks since I’ve visited this forum so I just wanted to share some of my experience so far in this thread.
I’m currently in Seoul right now with another forumer and I just got my nose and lipo done 2 days ago at Dream Clinic by Dr. Park and Dr. Kim.

I really like what Dr. Park did for me. Before surgery I had a hump bridge and short, bulbous tip and Dr. Park shaved off a bit of my hump then raised my bridge 2mm with septal+ear cartilage to pull my tip a little upwards and make it more proportional. The results are very subtle and I still look like myself, except with improved features. I am not bruised around my nasal/eye area at all, nor am I wearing a cast. I had closed rhino so all he did was tape my nose and I need stitches removed on the 7th day. The swelling is not very noticeable at all. 🙂 haha~just wanted to rant a bit.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-2.532179/page-586#post-19849233
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anonymousjk
Review8 Dec 12-100
Be careful when going into these plastic surgery clinics, the consultants will sell you on procedures that the doctor or clinic is specialize in. I knew what I wanted to going in and it was to get the most natural results. If the clinic/consultant recommend other procedures, i was immediately turned off. Remember, these places make money with the more surgeries they are able to sell so they are always going to push for more.

I went to Teium, which is known for their “beautiful eye” procedure which includes ptosis and eli, for a consultation on non-inciscion method (for eyes) and the manager/consultant recommended incision, ptosis correction and epi. All i wanted was the double lids to be bigger and not to change the shape of my eyes. I’m not a fan of the ptosis correction because you end up looking surprised all the time.

The one eyed consultant at Dream suggested incision method and a procedure for my under eyes saying that my dark circles are too prominent… i don’t mind my dark circles especially since I had just gotten off at 12 hour plane ride and had to adjust to a completely different time zone.

I ended up going to Grand for their natural adhesion method and they didn’t try to up sell me. It’s been a week and so far i think it’ll look pretty natural once the swelling goes down. I had Dr. Yoon and he was nice and patient and took his time during the consultation. If you end up going to Grand, and need an english translator request for JiWon. She did an excellent job translating word for word for my friend. June is another interpreter, though she’s nice, i don’t quite trust that she will thoroughly relay your questions or concerns to the doctor and vice versa. This is important because you want to know that you and your doctor are on the same page and have the same vision.
Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/looking-for-good-plastic-surgeons-in-seoul.707503/page-22#post-23462579
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astroboy00Review13 Dec 11-100
Hi all, (pt 1)

In the spirit of information sharing, I like to share about our 2 weeks experiences in Seoul. My wife just had her 3rd eyelid revision & hip surgery and I did all the researches for her. The past few months, I have been reading this forum and purse for all the info. And somewhere along the way, I read about this English translator, Zoe and we managed to engage her service for this trip.

Initially, we set our mind on BK Dong because of their general reputation but in the course of reading the forum we changed our mind and chose Banobagi because it has one of the lowest complains for failures. The only negative review I read so far was the english consultant by the name of “Mira”. So 2 mths back, I started emailing them and true enough, it took a few days for Banobagi to reply emails compared to BK Dong and another Clinic which replied within the same day. It was only about 3 weeks ago, I learnt about Zoe’s existence and service and i emailed her. And since we had already engaged Zoe and we read that she was in the industry, so we asked her to recommend another few clinic just for comparison sake. She recommended Dreams & Regent.

Review and impression of Zoe’s service – Zoe spake fluent Korean, Mandarin and have a good command of the English language. Both of us were impressed by Zoe’s professionalism and commitment to her client. Even while corresponding via emails for pre-trips logistical arrangement, she helped us to book appointment with Dreams & Regent and just prior to our departure for Seoul, she sent reminders on the details to take note. I was quite apprehensive about her costs initially and learnt that she’s quite flexible in that for those who think that they need her services for less than 10hours, she charges by the hour or a fixed sum for her ‘full service’ which includes accompanying us to up to 3 clinics of our choices for consultation (helping us to translate), accompanying us on the day of surgery and post ops reviews. We are glad that we took her full package instead of per hour basis as we initially thought a few hours would suffice. As mentioned by another forum-er, Zoe would really try to represent us to fight for better discount and even when it put her in a difficult position. I shall explain this later.

1st visit to Banobagi
Because our original plan was to have the surgery at Banobagi, I chose the IMI hotel (appx 100 USD per night, 3 stars hotel). Zoe met us at the hotel lobby in the morning and walked us to Banobagi. We set our appointment at 1030 on Saturday morning and the crowd was moderate. After about 20mins’ wait, we finally get to see the surgeon. My apology for not remembering his name, but in Banobagi I heard that there are 2 specialists for eyelids and only one of them is for revision. The consultation lasted for about 5 to 10mins, Banobagi has their own Mandarin speaking consultant but because we had Zoe, she did all the translation for us. After brief explanation from the doctor, we can see from the doctor’s body lang that he wanted to end the consult and when my wife asked more questions, we can see that he was kinda of frustrated and gave her either standard replies or (at least in my opinion) replies that coated with sarcasm.

The 2nd surgeon for the hip lipo was more friendly and after his assessment of my wife via pictures taken at the clinic, he gave a resounding yes and confidence that after the surgery, it would achieve my wife’s desired outcome.

After the consultation, the Mandarin consultant gave a summary of the surgery and with the following quotes:

After discounts – Zoe help us to neg for better deals
Eyelid – 6.5mil KRW (7.15mil with cc payment)
Hip – 4.8mil KRW (inclusive of special suit after lipo)

Additional thing to note is that the payment is by cash, if we wish to pay by credit card, its another 10% on top on the price. Out of the 3 clinics, Banobagi is the only clinic that charge additional 10% for credit card payment. Anyway, their price was far beyond to what was originally quoted to me when I did the online consult with them 2 mths back. Back then, they would leave a disclaimer that we need to have a face to face consult to have a more accurate assessment and costing. I believe our quotes were one of the highest I seen on the forum so far. I suspect the consultant tries to dish their client’s origin of country and based on the general perception of that country, gives a quote. Another observation that I had was that whenever the consultant sensed some dilemma on our end, she would try to add in some discounts to entice us – to make us sign the deal on the spot. But we made our stands clear and the consultant told us that we need to get back to her by 4pm the same day so that she could schedule us for a surgery for the following Monday.

1st visit to Dreams
We took a cab to Dreams and it has a smaller establishment compared to Banobagi. Somehow, I guess the physical building and its physical appearance has some psychological effects on my wife’s impression. Despite the significant price differences, my wife refused to have her surgery done in Dreams. The waiting time was definitely better due fewer crowds compared to Banobagi. The good doctor was somewhat uncomfortable with my presence when assessing my wife’s butt. He was worried that I would be uncomfortable with another man examining my wife’s butt, so I waited outside the consultation room, while the ladies (Zoe & consultant) accompanied my wife. After the examination, Zoe took the initiative to explain to me what actually transpired in the consult room and tried to comfort me by assuring me that the doctors here are medical professionals and had seen many other women, so my wife was another patient to him.

The Korean speaking consultant did her summary and gave us the quotation. The doctor’s assessment of the eyelid surgery was similar to that of Banobagi. However, he felt that it was not necessary for my wife to do the lipo as his assessment was that my wife’s concerned area consists mainly of muscle tissue and not fats, so a lipo would not have any significant effects.

Even though Dreams wasn’t on my wife’s radar, but the apparent extreme views between Dreams and Banobagi kind of perturbed the both of us. Zoe suggested that since the assessment for eyelids are quite consistent, we moderate the need for hip surgery after hearing from the 3rd clinic – Regent.

Eyelids – 5.5mil KRW (after discount and no addition charge for cc payment)
Hip – Not recommended

After the 2nd clinic, i was more convinced that Banobagi’s price was more to max out their profit margin and to pay for their costs of staffing and building facility. However, my wife would rather pay more for the comfort of mind (remember her seemingly psychological bias against Dreams) and she still want her hips to be done regardless. So Dreams was out.

1st visit to Regent
Regent is walking distance from Dreams and it has very similar establishment with Banobagi in terms of their building and facility. The waiting time was decent as well. They also have their Mandarin speaking consultants. By then, it was already evening time and I was somewhat exhausted from all the walking and visitation. I took the first opportunity from the consultant’s comment that the doctor was uncomfortable with my presence, to rest. As usual, the ladies accompanied my wife while the good doctor examined my wife. My wife and Zoe commented and joked about how exhausted the surgeon looked and how he seemed like he’s going to faint anytime.

After the consult, there was another astonishing news. The surgeon explained that the hip lipo may be done but the effects would be limited because there are limited fats to be sucks out in the first place. But the desired result would be better than the original state. But the surgeon refused to perform the surgery on the eyelid as he wasn’t confident to make it to achieve my wife’s desired outcome. Here’s the quote from Regent:

Eyelid – Not recommended
Hip – 3.5mil KRW (no additional charge for cc payment)

My wife was somewhat shaken after the Regent’s assessment as her main concern was her eyelid and her hip was more a secondary “good to have” type of treatment. With limited options, it seemed like we had no choice but to approach Banobagi and yet we had our reservation on their pricing especially on the 10% cc payment. Zoe was patient with us throughout this while and even after spending the entire day with us. At least, I am exhausted and my patience was running thin. To cut the long story short within that hour, Zoe helped us to call Banobagi at least 3 times to fight for discounts and waiver of the 10%, because we were trying out various options – eye surgery at Banobagi and hip in Regent because it worked out to be cheaper.

I think its worthwhile to mention the last few calls made, to credit Zoe. While waiting for consultant at Banobagi to get approval for 10% waiver, we got tired of waiting and because the consultant at Regent was somewhat pressing us for an answer too. I worked out that even with the 10% waiver at Banobagi, it would be slightly cheaper to perform at Regent, so I made the decision to end all the waiting nonsense and proceed to have eyelid at Banobagi and hip at Regent. I requested Zoe to call Banobagi and inform them of our decision and enquire if the eyelid price would remain the same (because the “special price” by Banobagi was supposed to be a package deal – eyelid + hip, etc) Clearly, Zoe was somewhat reluctant to make that call because she made several calls to them previously fighting for more discount and at the end, we decided to just go with the eyelid surgery and ask for the same price. Nonetheless, she made the call for us and secured the same price for the eyelid (with the 10% cc charge)
Liposuction, Eyes
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/revisional-double-eyelids-surgery.647083/page-10#post-20539991
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AutumnSkies
Review30 Mar 14100
I actually had 2 jaw surgery. Was over a year ago at Dream in Seoul and definitely worth it 🙂 This time around I’m thinking about Zygoma reduction and now I really dont want to take anymore xrays 🙁
Jawhttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/mini-v-line-in-north-america.861888/#post-26497454
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Babii Namky
Review20 Oct 12-100
Update: sorry for making everyone wait, but today is the first day that i could really open my eyes >.<
So on the 15th, I made consultation appointments at Dream dr Park, Regen dr Kim and Dreamlotte dr Kim (in this order). I decided on Regen so i didn’t want to go to Dreamlotte.

Dr Park: Made my apt at 10am but i still had to wait for 2 hours till i can see dr park. There were alottt of people waiting and i saw some really pretty girls there. My consultation with dr park was quite short, maybe less than 10 mins. I thought he was nice but not very talkative. For eyes, he recommened downward epi because the distance between my eyes are quite close, parcial incision and eyebrow lifting (make 4 holes on my head and lift the whole forehead). I did not expect to have this procedure done and the cost for eyebrow lift is 5 mil won!
For nose, he recommended humpectomy, osteotomy, tip plasty with 2.5mm silicone implant. 4.2 mil won, i thought this was very reasonable.
Although i really wanted Dr Park for my nose, i wasn’t sure of the whole eyebrow lift thing so i passed..

Regen: made an apt at 1pm and still had to wait for like 3.5 hours till i can see dr Kim. Regen is reallllly nice and rich looking. They offered me free drinks including coffee, water, latte,etc… When i met Dr.Kim, he stood up and shook my hands, he also thanked me for choosing to have a consultation with him. I totally did not expect him to be soo respectful and genuine since he is the chief doctor at Regen. For eyes, he recommended partial incision with ptosis, epi, lateral, pretty much the whole thing bcause my eyes are small and short lol! For nose: same thing as dr Park. At first, They quoted me 9.7mil won without lateral. If i want lateral, it’s 1.5 mil won. Honestly, i reallly liked Dr Kim and was set to have it done at Regen but i didn’t bring enough money because i thought it was only gonna be about 7500 usd. Later, used my bargain skill to bring it down to 9.5 mil won including lateral. I paid 7500 usd in cash and 2000 usd on my card and they did not charge me tax 🙂
Btw, the nose alone costed 6 mil won, compared to 4.2 mil won at dream
The down side of Regen is that they don’t have any after care service, besides some pumpkin juice, i expected to have more since the price is so much more higher than other
places. I paid them in full right after my consultation because i did not feel safe to bring around alot of cash.

My surgery was scheduled at 1pm the next day. I arrived at 12pm to get my pictures taken and the nurses cleaned my nose and got me changed and ready for surgery.
They tied me up and i thought it was so scary and uncomfortable… Then they give me IV shot. I think it’s sedation because i was dreaming of wonderland and i was laughing the whole time. The nurses told me this when i woke up lol. I didnt even know it when they gave me shots in the eyes. Then dr Kim came in and drew on my eyes, i knew and felt pretty much everything. The most painful part was lateral, omg hurtssss so bad! I said pain pain and dr kim was comforting me. I also smelled the fat being burned, not very pleasant… My eyes took about 1.5 hours in total.
After the eyes, the nurses asked me if im ready to go to sleep. I was like yeahhh and i dont remember anything after that. My nose surgery was pleasant as i couldnt feel or remember anything.
I woke up like 15 mins later, at around 6pm. Nicole and forum member beefsoup were also there when i woke up, which was really comforting. Nicole then took my back to my hotel.
Today is the 5th day since my surgery, the swelling is still there but it has gotten better. I used alot of icepacks and took vit c, bromelain, pumpkin juice. However, now im noticing asymetry in my eyes. The right eye is a lil higher than the left side. Regen said that it’s due to uneven swelling and that i have to wait till the swelling is gone to see the results. Im still very worried… And theres stiches inside of my eyes, where the lateral is. Honestly, it is sooo uncomfortable because it hurts when i open my eyes. I have to wait 10 days to get lateral stiches removed. I dont recommened lateral to anyone unless your eyes are very short like me. I don’t know if the pain and having stiches INSIDE of your eyes for 10 days is worth it.
They put a cast and bandages on my nose so i cant really see yet but yesterday when i went back for cleaning and disinfecting, i took a peek at my nose and it looks good.. I think.. At least the tip is not upturned lol

Btw, purseforum members beefsoup and wellna came to my hotel to visit me. They are soo nice and im so happy to have some amazing people around me in another country.

Ok that is it for now, sorry for the long post and any confusion i have caused you. I’m
typing on my ipad with my eyes half opened so please excuse my grammar.
Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/best-plastic-surgery-clinics-in-korea-read-1st-post-before-posting.780226/page-11#post-23129707
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Babii Namky
Review20 Oct 12100
Update: sorry for making everyone wait, but today is the first day that i could really open my eyes >.<
So on the 15th, I made consultation appointments at Dream dr Park, Regen dr Kim and Dreamlotte dr Kim (in this order). I decided on Regen so i didn’t want to go to Dreamlotte.

Dr Park: Made my apt at 10am but i still had to wait for 2 hours till i can see dr park. There were alottt of people waiting and i saw some really pretty girls there. My consultation with dr park was quite short, maybe less than 10 mins. I thought he was nice but not very talkative. For eyes, he recommened downward epi because the distance between my eyes are quite close, parcial incision and eyebrow lifting (make 4 holes on my head and lift the whole forehead). I did not expect to have this procedure done and the cost for eyebrow lift is 5 mil won!
For nose, he recommended humpectomy, osteotomy, tip plasty with 2.5mm silicone implant. 4.2 mil won, i thought this was very reasonable.
Although i really wanted Dr Park for my nose, i wasn’t sure of the whole eyebrow lift thing so i passed..

Regen: made an apt at 1pm and still had to wait for like 3.5 hours till i can see dr Kim. Regen is reallllly nice and rich looking. They offered me free drinks including coffee, water, latte,etc… When i met Dr.Kim, he stood up and shook my hands, he also thanked me for choosing to have a consultation with him. I totally did not expect him to be soo respectful and genuine since he is the chief doctor at Regen. For eyes, he recommended partial incision with ptosis, epi, lateral, pretty much the whole thing bcause my eyes are small and short lol! For nose: same thing as dr Park. At first, They quoted me 9.7mil won without lateral. If i want lateral, it’s 1.5 mil won. Honestly, i reallly liked Dr Kim and was set to have it done at Regen but i didn’t bring enough money because i thought it was only gonna be about 7500 usd. Later, used my bargain skill to bring it down to 9.5 mil won including lateral. I paid 7500 usd in cash and 2000 usd on my card and they did not charge me tax 🙂
Btw, the nose alone costed 6 mil won, compared to 4.2 mil won at dream
The down side of Regen is that they don’t have any after care service, besides some pumpkin juice, i expected to have more since the price is so much more higher than other
places. I paid them in full right after my consultation because i did not feel safe to bring around alot of cash.

My surgery was scheduled at 1pm the next day. I arrived at 12pm to get my pictures taken and the nurses cleaned my nose and got me changed and ready for surgery.
They tied me up and i thought it was so scary and uncomfortable… Then they give me IV shot. I think it’s sedation because i was dreaming of wonderland and i was laughing the whole time. The nurses told me this when i woke up lol. I didnt even know it when they gave me shots in the eyes. Then dr Kim came in and drew on my eyes, i knew and felt pretty much everything. The most painful part was lateral, omg hurtssss so bad! I said pain pain and dr kim was comforting me. I also smelled the fat being burned, not very pleasant… My eyes took about 1.5 hours in total.
After the eyes, the nurses asked me if im ready to go to sleep. I was like yeahhh and i dont remember anything after that. My nose surgery was pleasant as i couldnt feel or remember anything.
I woke up like 15 mins later, at around 6pm. Nicole and forum member beefsoup were also there when i woke up, which was really comforting. Nicole then took my back to my hotel.
Today is the 5th day since my surgery, the swelling is still there but it has gotten better. I used alot of icepacks and took vit c, bromelain, pumpkin juice. However, now im noticing asymetry in my eyes. The right eye is a lil higher than the left side. Regen said that it’s due to uneven swelling and that i have to wait till the swelling is gone to see the results. Im still very worried… And theres stiches inside of my eyes, where the lateral is. Honestly, it is sooo uncomfortable because it hurts when i open my eyes. I have to wait 10 days to get lateral stiches removed. I dont recommened lateral to anyone unless your eyes are very short like me. I don’t know if the pain and having stiches INSIDE of your eyes for 10 days is worth it.
They put a cast and bandages on my nose so i cant really see yet but yesterday when i went back for cleaning and disinfecting, i took a peek at my nose and it looks good.. I think.. At least the tip is not upturned lol

Btw, purseforum members beefsoup and wellna came to my hotel to visit me. They are soo nice and im so happy to have some amazing people around me in another country.

Ok that is it for now, sorry for the long post and any confusion i have caused you. I’m
typing on my ipad with my eyes half opened so please excuse my grammar.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/best-plastic-surgery-clinics-in-korea-read-1st-post-before-posting.780226/page-11#post-23129707
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beautyhealsReview14 Sep 15100
Hi everyone,

First of all I want to thank my dearest friend Kcouture, for sharing her invaluable information with us. I want to thank her for answering all of my question, despite having busy schedule.

I’ve been in Korea from 1st of June to 11th of June. After checking in in hotel, I went straight to visit some clinics as Kcouture suggested me.

I wanted to do eyelid surgery, ptosis correction, epi, buccal fat removal, acculift/acculaser and inject fillers to create aegyosal.

My first clinic was JK, it was designed in a luxury style and everything there told about how posh is that place (in a good meaning) 🙂 After waiting for 30 min (which is absolutely normal, trust me) I met with my consultant and doctor. Btw, I came to Korea with my mom. I liked doctors there, they were nice and seemed to know their job, so I took this clinic into consideration. But the price was quite high, and consultant didn’t seem to bargain a lot (my mom didn’t mind high prices-if job is done well), therefore I decided to go visit another clinics and have a think about it. Doctor supported my wishes (non-incisional double eyelid, ptosis, epi, acculift and buccal fat removal) to do all of procedures but she said that I don’t need fillers to do aegyosal. She didn’t recommend me that procedure. Also, Kcouture doesn’t like them:biggrin:

Next we went to JW, which was located in the right opposite road. Btw, I want to mention that I BOOKED ALL THE CONSULTATIONS BEFOREHAND. After waiting for 2(!!!) hrs we finally met doctor (even my mom was quite angry because we just arrived today and have been waiting just to see him very long). I saw the doctor who does eyes only, so he suggested me non-incision eyelid surgery, ptosis and epi. However I didn’t like that doctor much, because I believe in a phrase “Actions speak louder than the words” (if you know what I mean).

After finishing consultation with JW, I went to Dream (btw all of them were so close to each other), it was already 5pm, so Jasinee (amazing english translator – love her!) asked me to wait for Dr. Park , he was in a surgery room. At 6 pm, they told me that Dr. Park is still doing surgery, therefore they asked me to come back next day at 10am. At least they told me, so that I wouldn’t be seating like crazy. BTW, I asked for Daphne, but she wasn’t around, and apparently she now works with VIP patients:smile: But i was absolutely happy with Jasinee!
So I came back next day, 2nd of June, and went for consultation with Ms. Lee (awesome young lady hehe:smile: ) she told me about the procedures, and also suddenly I decided to do forehead lifting (Ms. Lee didn’t force me to do it, but I wanted to make my eyes look brighter). After seeing Dr Park and Dr Yoo (FH lifting surgeon) and Dr. Kim (acculift+buccal fat removal) I went to see Ms. Lee again to talk about price. Unfortunately the price was far above my budget (but I could bargain very much – Kcouture knows it:p ) so I decided to do my eyes and forehead (I thought that when my weight becomes stable (I’m chubby girl:biggrin: ) then I will decide another options. Also, in Dream there is each specific doctor for specific surgery, Dr Park does only non-incisional techniques, Dr Yoo Anna medi-epi, Dr. Yoo incisional techniques and anti-ageing (there was also another handsome doctor for anti-ageing), Dr. Kim for facial bone surgeries.


BTW, ALL of the surgeons didn’t recommend me to inject fillers to create aegyosal. Seems they don’t like it:p

So, my surgery turned very good, my eyes still look tiny unsymmetrical, but that is the beauty of it, looking very natural. BTW, I have almost no visible scars, so that no one can tell about my procedures:smile:

If you want to know about surgery day post, let me know:smile:

@Kcouture, now thinking about rhino:biggrin:DD
Eyes, Lifts, Liposuction
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/k-coutures-guide-to-seoul-plastic-surgery.886985/page-21#post-29168643
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belleleleReview25 December 12100
Hi everyone!

I posted a few message earlier saying i will be travelling on 24 Dec to korea for rhinoplasty revision.I am finally done! Nicole is my translater , she is really good!I only went to 2 clinic, Grand and Dream and here are my experience as below. HTHs all!Sorry it
would be long post….

2pm
arrived seoul airport and meet up with nicole, a really pretty girl ! can speak fluent korean, english and chinese.

2:30pm
After checking in my luggage at Highland hotel which nicole reserved for me , we walked down to Grand. (Grand and Dream are only opposite btw)
There are many patients at grand, mostly are foreign. some are bandaged up.Nicole booked my appointment at 2:30, but we waited for quite a long while, and i was getting impatient as we had another appointment at 4:00. So after waiting for abt an hour, i told the english translater at Grand that i need to rush off to another clinic. upon hearing that, they quickly arranged a doctor to meet me.I was surprised,anyway the doctor seems really kind, but i think he came in to meet me during his surgery. after pointing out the revision rhinoplasty surgery i needed, he also pointed out i need fat graft on my forehead, and side of my forehead.
After that was the price negotiation with their consultant, Actually i was really tired of waiting so long and quite turned off, as i already booked my appointment , i still had to wait for 45 min++..Then the consultant offered me a price rocket high
8 million for revision rhinoplasty
2 million for fat graft forehead
0.5million for fat graft face other side
she give me a discount at 9 million. but i told her i need to consider as i need to visit another clinic, she say if i go off i would not be able to do my surgery today. I was insistent and i told nicole i like to go off.
It was already 4 pm by the time we went, even nicole told me , they charged too high.

Dream
It was located just next to grand. They just moved their clinic so the place look really new and posh. There wasn’t many people, mainly local from what i see. We arranged to meet the consultant, as nicole knew the people there, they let us meet the head consultant. A very nice lady which i forgotten her name, after that i met up with Dr park, they say the head of rhinoplasty surgery. It seems like he is also meeting me with his surgery gown , but he seems really relaxed,he can speak english well too, i told him my problem, he asked me what type of nose i want, and i told him natural. Then
Nicole helped me tell him the rest, which i was really grateful as she remenbered what i told her and she help me conveyed everything to the doctor so he could understand better. He also mentioned i need fat graft for my whole face, which would be better than just forehead.after consultation, we went to meet the consultant again, and i dont dare to bargain…haha.Nicole helped me tell her i wish for a cheaper price.. she said she want to increase the price since i am doing whole face, not just the forehead for fat graft. then nicole told her to let it remain the same price, i also say same price behind her. finally she agreed! the price she quote for revisional rhinoplasty 5 million, full face fat graft 2.6 million.


After i paid off all my money , i was asked to change and prepare for sugery. it was finally the moment! Nicole told me she will come back and look for me after 3 hour.
I was really scared of pain, so i keep telling the nurse to inform me when she is numbing me… she say ok asked to to relax, but i just can’t relax and keep fidgeting. So the nurse had no choice, but give me a stabiliser injection. After that i feel like i was in dreamland.Everybody i moving me about, and can feel someone is pressing me here and there… it was not pain strangely. After that i felt myself waking up, i saw dr park operating on me, they had finish the fat graft, and now is my nose. i had no idea why but i kept opening my eyes, Dr park asked me to close my eyes, i think he feel weird why am i looking at him operating on my nose… until the end of the surgery i can feel what he is doing on my nose but there is no pain.I can even feel him humming songs to himself when he is at it.Finally, he completed it and he knows i am awake, so he told me “it’s beautiful!” so glad to hear it.

Nicole stayed with me until i was ready to go and walked me back to highland hotel. It was a pleasant experience and i would definitely recommend her to anyone.For myself, i felt if no one was with me, i couldn’t have make it.After i recover i will post some before and after nose photo to show u all!

anyone in highland hotel doing surgery btw? we could meet up hehe!
Nose, Fat Grafthttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/best-plastic-surgery-clinics-in-korea-read-1st-post-before-posting.780226/page-177#post-23576320
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betterlook15
Rumor7 Nov 14100
Hi !
I was in Korea 2011 and I had bigger folds for my upper eyelids but the result is very subtle. I went with someone on this forum last time.
and I am planing on going this year or earlier next year. I am looking for roomates to share the cost.
I want to do FG on the temples , forehead , under eyes to fill up the hollow, nasial folds and lower cheeks
Nose job (ultra soft silicione implant with Ear Cartilage for the tip).
and maybe bigger folds on upper eyelids.
last time I was there my sister in law was in Korea and I knew a guy he is my uncle in law’s nephew. So I got helps from them. But I have not keep in touch with them.
I knew so many clinics over there..it’s hard to pick the good one.
My friend is in Seoul now and I asked him to look around for good clinics that celebrities and local Koreans go to and he told me that they are IDEA clinics, The Dream Group Clinic (Dr Park) .
however I have not heard any mentions about IDEA clinic in this forum.
But The Dream Group clinic.
I did some reserach with JW..their prices seems ok but I heard that their results are so subtle…that makes me a bit hesitate to have surgeries with them.
I don’t want a drastically change but would like to see a good improvement and the differences not too subtle.
I am a bit scare if traveling alone but I have been reasearch in PS for 15 years LOL.
This time I want to do something 😉
If you want to discuss with me. please email at caytrucxanh2001@yahoo.com or Kakao me my id is L122614 (lower L)
Otherhttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/teium-clinic-and-at-clinic.852233/page-17#post-27631765
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bonitagirlxReview3 Aug 08100
Where: Dream Clinic in Apgujeongdong
Doctor: Dr. Song
Experience:
[Part 1- Consultation]I have to say this was one of the most scariest experiences of my life. I had never gone through surgery before, and was not looking forward to this. The whole process was extremely long and tiring. On the first day, which was Tuesday, I had to go to the dream clinic and wait 45 minutes for the “consultation” to occur. I met up with this really chippy lady who gave me a mirror and scrutinized my face. She told my mom what I needed to fix, and then set up an appointment for Friday.
[Part 2- The Surgery]Okay so Friday rolls around and i was so nervous I was shaking all over. I had a buffet right before I went for my surgery and could barely eat a thing. When i arrived at the clinic, my appointment was set up for 3:00pm. When i got there, they told me to take a seat and I waited for an hour for my appointment. So it was 4:00 by then. Next they brought me up to the second floor and one of the nurses put a head band on my head and took, like, 20 pictures of my face. After that i went back out into the waiting room (of-course) and the nurse spread ointment around my eyes and then told me to wait more. I looked like a damn fool with white cream all over my face. So another hour rolls by and my heart beats faster and faster and I get more and more nervous as the time goes. Finally i am called into the doctors office and my mom is told to stay outside. Then the nurses bring me to a lighted room and they tell me to lie down on a table. They then put 3 blankets on me, one to cover my legs, another to cover my upper body and one more to cover everything but my face. So i was basically covered head to toe except my face . At this point i was shaking so uncontrollably i could barely make coherent sentences. The nurse cleaned my face and saw how nervous I was and told me it wouldn’t hurt. Right after she said that the doctor came over and turned the light on which almsot blinded me. He then told me to close my eyes and then i felt a shot go right between my eyes. It was extremely painful (probably because the anesthetic ointment wore off) and i felt everything. However, i kept my mouth shut and pretended I did not feel a thing. Then the doctor began to operate. Honestly I could not feel a thing afterwards. I thought i would feel him lifting my eyelid and hacking at it, but i felt like he didnt even touch my eyes. All i heard was a “chhh, chhh, chhh, chh” sound like a perfume bottle being pumped. Then after a few (maybe 6-8) minutes, i felt a string go over my mouth. (i guess he sew the inscision up). After that, the other eye. than? badda bing badda boom! it was finished. let me tell you one thing. YOU DONT FEEL A THING. except for the shot, thats pretty much it~!!! 😀 that was my biggest worry… now i have to get stitches out (which i hear hurts.. but i will get back to you guys with that) this process does not hurt as much as i thought. (and also i barely swelled. I actually looked normal) i can show you before and after pictures too! ^____^ i will after i sleep though. im mad tired.. but yea! u guys no biggie !! =)
Eyeshttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/27115-double-eyelid-surgery-thread/?do=findComment&comment=8132210
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bonitagirlxReview4 Aug 08100
babybluesxo: hello~~ 🙂 yea the place i went to? i had no idea trainees went there lol… but it was pretty nice~ only problem is they make u wait centuries..
1. so were the staff friendly? verrrrrrry friendly. they are very sweet and the doctor is a cupcake! 🙂
2. did the doctor listen to what you wanted? well he sort of went on his own trail, but i was just cool with what he wanted… all i kind of wanted was my corners to be cut, but he said he would cut a muscle in my eye too which would help me open and close them better (which i did not really have a problem with since i wasn’t paying extra.
3. did you get full incisional and your corners cut? im not sure what you mean by full inscisional? but.. i guess i only got my corners cut?
4. How much was your procedure? 800,000 won. (800 usd i guess?)
5. would you recomend people to go there? definetly. the doctor knows what he’s doing. also, staff? A+. And? look at my results:
before surgery: t158388166.jpg
right now (stitches in eyes) t158387064.jpg
after surgery (coming soon.. maybe wednesday): b158820980.jpg
after after surgery (3 weeks):
🙂 barely any bruising/swelling. now THATS what i call surgery!!! 😛
Eyeshttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/27115-double-eyelid-surgery-thread/?do=findComment&comment=8139673
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cakemonster
Review6 May 15100
I’m done with my consultations! Finally! =)



JW?This was the first clinic I had an appointment with. The quoted me 5 million for prp and jaw botox, then down to 4 million. The consultant was perfectly nice but for some reason, I didn?t like the clinic. Even though I wasn?t there for a nose job, the weird noses just turned me off, lol. I left.



Item?This clinic had the cheapest prices. But price isn?t too much of an issue for me as long as I love their work. It?s my face, I better be able to afford the absolute best. For me, there is no sense in bargaining for something that I may have to live with for the rest of my life. The doctor at item was very nice and patient with me, but I didn?t really like their before and afters. I felt they were quite dramatic looking.



Dream?I really liked this clinic?s results. They showed me pictures of girls who had bone structure similar to mine and their fat grafting results. It was what I had in mind. However, their prices were higher than I was prepared to pay, but I was thinking, ? I WILL GET THE CASH TO DO THIS!? (That is, after I check my bank account, lol.) I walked out with a good feeling but I decided to finish all my consultations in the following days and then decide.


TLPS?Okay, the consultant was very nice here. TLPS quoted me 4 million for jaw botox and stemcell fat graft and said it had a 90% survival rate for fat. I thought, omg, that?s great?why isn?t everyone using stemcell fat graft?! Really sounds too good to be true. So I asked if it?s a new procedures?and is it safe? She said it?s safe and it?s been around for a long time but not used for plastic surgery. And then I got suspicious because if it?s so great and has been around for a while, why not use it for plastic surgery? She responded that the technology is expensive and it?s difficult to process the fats?a lot of clinics are just starting to use it. Still, something felt fishy to me and my friend said that stemcell fatgrafting isn?t effective?it?s just a good marketing tacticßshe was told this by her doctor who is very reknown.


Banobagi?They were initially one of my top choices?before I visited their clinic that is. They were soooo busy and everyone was scrambling around. I understand this is a bigger clinic that deals with a ton of patients, but I wanted somewhere less hectic. Their regular fat graft price was reasonable, but the consultant tried to quote me 8 million+ for stemcell fat graft and I was internally like lololol. I have a bit of a poker face so I didn?t laugh. I wonder if the reason she quoted me so high was because in our initial email, I said I wasn?t sure what procedures I wanted. Maybe she thought I didn?t know any better. Anyways, that consultation was the shortest and I crossed them off my list.


Regen ? I ended up not visiting this clinic because I needed to go back to dream for a second consultation and check out the photos again. Also, I don?t really like the aesthetic from Regen?s website but I had initially wanted to go for price comparison purposes. However, after my second consultation at Dream, I booked my surgery there and obviously did not visit regen.


Going to Dream to get PRP fat graft+jaw botox+transconjunctival bletheroplasty next week! They are more expensive, but seriously, they?re the only ones who came close to the natural aesthetic I was looking for. I don?t mind paying more if they can deliver, which I trust they will.

I?ll update you guys later after my surgery. =)
Fat Grafthttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/fat-grafting-in-korea.815644/page-38#post-28507473
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caro89Review14 Aug 17-100
I had a consultation with
-Dream
-Fresh
-Banobagi
-JK
-Cinderella
-Answer PS
-Wonjin
I’m considering Dream, Fresh, Banobagi and JK.
Dream: consultation was good but the doc was not very enthusiast. He didn’t gave me a mirror to point him the areas that I’m more concerned about. He was just listening and not really giving his advice. When I asked about his advice, he said it’s 100% your choice…
Fresh: I really liked the consultation. The translator, manager and doc gave me alot of time. Doc was explaning and alos giving his advice. Plus he said he does Face fat grafting with PRP. Plus he has done it on foreigner which is a plus for me as I’m not Korean. But the thing is that I’ve heard he is not a board certified surgeon and he has 7 years of experience.
JK: is a big posch hospital. Well organized but super expensive. Doc was ok.
Banobagi: they took my pictures on the consultation and doc point out the areas that needed the fat the most. Plus also asked me what I would like to do. But he asked me if about the nose surgery which I have never considered and which I don’t think I need. That’s one think I didn’t really liked but he was not pushing. I just said that I will never tough my nose and he smiled and said all right no issues. Overall it was good.

So at this point I’m really confused about which one to choose or should I visit more hospitals? Please help!
Fat Grafthttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/fresh-plastic-surgery-korea.946053/page-4#post-31597716
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ChanelAddicted2
Review19 Jul 13100
Hi all, so after the butchering day I’m now still alive and fully capable of writing some reviews of the entire clinics I have been to. My main purpose of this Seoul 2nd visit is for the nose revision in JW and facial contouring. Luckily, on the arrival day JW provided limousine pick-up service, even though the flight was late for an hour but when I got to the airport the pick-up man was still there waiting for me.

After that I ran directly to High Land hotel, left the luggage and to Regen consultation. Note that I’m staying with turningpoint. She came to Seoul 1 day before me.

Ok, here comes the consultation part:

Regen: they have their own big building, fancy lobby, and quite a good-looking clinic, many Korean customers around. I was waiting for around 10 mins then there was a translator lady calls Chang-mi brought me to the X-ray scanning room. The good thing was I didn’t have to pay for the examination fees. After X-ray scanning I got to meet dr. Oh Myung June (one of the three chief surgeon in Regen), he speak pretty good English. First he said if I want to achieve a perfect balance face then two-jaw surgery would be the most suitable one. But I refused since it’s too expensive and invasive surgery for me. Then he mentioned the second option would be v-line surgery to give a baby face and fix the asymmetrical on my face somehow. He explained very carefully what he would do and the disadvantages. V-line could cause sagging problem so there might be a chance I have to come back one year later to have the laser treatment, plus in case if there is any infection from the screw (which rarely happened) then I have to come back also a year later to take it out since the bone is already heal them self. He showed me some of his patient who went under V-line and they were all look a lot better comparing to the before picture. Well, he seems to be an honest guy and I was pretty comfortable with him.
Price: 1 million KRW for V-line if pay with card, 9 million KRW if pay in case.

Face-line: a pretty small clinic close by JW, looks old to me (like 90s style) and there was a few Korean waiting for the turn for consultation before me, it was at 18:00. I came there with a Korean friend to help me to translate since they don’t have an English speaker there. Examination fees were 10.000 KRW. My friend said it seem like they have three main doctor there and they are known for “making” baby face types. I met with the doctor, he is around in his mid 40s but unfortunately I didn’t remember his name since everything was in Korean. He also thought I need a two jaw surgery to achieved the baby face but I refused. The he suggested mini V-line. Since I will be doing sliding Genioplasty to push the chin forward therefore there will be no sagging problem, unlikely those who want to advance the chine smaller.
Price: 8,5 million KRW for a mini V-line!?! No way, this is too expensive for me plus I don’t want to go for facial bone contouring in such a small clinic. So this is out of my list.

Dream: medium size clinic close to JW as well. The decoration is so white that totally remind me about the hospital. There was around 7 Korean waiting in the lobby. Examination fees: 50.000 KRW. A bit expensive but I have a friend (cherrykiss) who did her two-jaw surgery in Dream and quite satisfy with the result therefore I paid anyway. Then I met dr. Kim Young Joon. He just got out of the surgery room therefore I still could feel the rubber gloves smell on his hand. He seems to be a very confident doctor and I liked him too but not as much as the doctor in Regen. He suggested V-line for me.
On the other hand, the consultation girl was a pain in the *** when I told her I’m going to give them my decision after visiting ID hospital. Then she said with her bad English accent: “ID no good, Dream is-za better” She wasn’t so friendly either.
Price: 10 million KRW for V-line, doesn’t matter paying in cash or card. No bargain!

ID hospital: this clinic was out of my list long time ago since I read itsumobaby and Iann reviews about their horror stories with ID. But I decided to give it a chance since I have a friend who is working in ID then she assured me there is no way that such thing as switching to junior doctor in the operation room, they don’t even have any junior doctor in the clinic anyway. Well, well, ok give it a chance I decided!

Big clinic, nice decoration and sleek. The crow is mixed with Korean and Chinese. I met a Korean lady who had a Rhinoplasty in ID and she was looking pretty angry and told me she didn’t like the result. But I think her nose look fine to me though.

The examination fees were 25.000KRW. Then I met with Euna, an English speaker consultation girl in ID. She speaks perfect English. We waited for pretty long (nearly an hour) to see dr. Park Sang Hoon. Heard that he is a super busy man. Then he came in the room with a smile and reading my file, asking how I am doing, blah blah blah Wow, he is so friendly, speak very good English, totally different from my imagination in the review of these horror stories. He suggested a mini V-line for me. But I asked if I should opt for the V-line instead. He replied it depend on where I am come from if people would mind about the wide face but in general he thinks mini V-line is enough for me. Then he explained in detail what he is going to do and confirmed that infection from the screws should be very minimal. In case, that does happened I could go back to their clinic after 6 months to take them out without any charge. In the end I even asked: “Will you be the only one who do my surgery from A to Z?” then he replied “Of course, I will do everything for you!”.
Price: 6 million KRW won for mini V-line but since I have a friend working in ID, through her I will be able to get 20% discount.

I was so torn between Regen and ID hospital, I like them both doctors. But my friend who work in ID, Nicole and turningpoint didn’t think I need a V-line. Therefore my final decision is to do the mini V-line in ID hospital with dr. Park. Then I went to take the blood test and CT-scan again.

My friend told me, in most of the clinic in Korea there would be two doctors doing the surgery. The main doctor doing the operation and the other doctor just doing the stitching as the last step. Don’t know if it is really true working that way but I feel safe with ID anyway.
V-Linehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/best-plastic-surgery-clinics-in-korea-read-1st-post-before-posting.780226/page-461#post-25009365
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chlak5Review3 Jun 15100
Hi guys I’m currently at Starbucks in Korea charging my phone while I type this since I got so much help but I would like to share my experience thus far.

I visited Dream, JW, and Cheongdamu. I can’t comment on the quotes yet but the consultations were good and definitely keep it 3 or less per day for consult. Trust me you don’t time and will be way too rushed but make sure to write down what you want to get done and what the problem is. As well as take pictures of yourself to show them your problem and a photo of someone or something you want to look like.

Dream: It was the nicest interior and the consultants look very pretty and natural. Mostly Koreans and maybe few foreigners. I saw Korean Americans as well. Great thorough consults and these doctors are not there to sweet talk you and straight up just stares at you when you walk in so it may seem cold or off putting but they seem very professional. I saw a well off Korean man getting treated for his skin very quick before returning to work or meeting or something so they see, to have regulars among Korean locals. Quote wise they are the highest but I rather pay more for better results. Dr Park recommend chin implant but I wasn’t too sure about it. But they aren’t pushy at all just recommendation you can easily ignore or ask more about it. It’s your choice. For me I don’t know quite that much so if you guys know chin implant success rate and people I can refer to on Kakao or purse, please let me know! Dr won jae is incision and revision eye specialist. He did not recommend ptosis for me because he said I can look too furious. I’m still gonna ask again if I can maybe do a little but they’d seem to be on conservative and natural side which I really like. And I have yet to see those crazy dolly eyes in gangnam so looks like the trend is dying down.

2. JW: JW was empty mostly and there were couple of Chinese and couple of Koreans. It looks very nice from outside and interior decor is great as well. They offered me the lowest price but I expected that as what most people said. Dr choi was great and he is thorough and stares at you and play around with your face. Dr Han for fat graft was attentive and nice and since its fat graft , it isn’t as serious as eyelid surgery. They recommend accullift for my chin where Dream recommend chin implant so this is something to think about. My consultant was very sweet and understanding. Dr Choi said I can do ptosis but only a little since it mild and did address the same furious looks people get after ptosis like Dream didAlso JK is right across from them. Are they partnered or something?

3. Cheongdamu: The hardest clinic to find but consultant was very nice. It isn’t in the open where people can see the clinic but is one of those alley ways. My consultstion was good and I even had 5 people in my consult. i saw dr yang who is the head surgeon and does eyes and fat graft. The consult was great but I don’t know about them other than they did Chinese celebrities supposedly and it was popular on purse but not anymore? Please comment if you know more. But yeah they seem to be natural minded and holistic. Not that busy though. And the price they gave me was between Jw and Dream and they were wondering what quote I got for Dream and did comment that Dream is good for natural looks. Oh and I also got their towards their closing so maybe it’s different earlier time.


Yeah so that’s it for now. And those who are coming in June or near future it is hot in Korea. So be advised. I want to visit other clinics tomorrow like Jeadon Opera Wannabe Girin and Teuim. No clinic knew who Teuim was either which was concerning and their automatic ptosis recommendation concerns me now after visiting these three clinics today but I will never find out for sure until I consult. But let me know guys which one you would like me to visit or have clinic reommendation since tomorrow is the last day for me secure spot for three clinics. I am really leaning on Dream right now as they aren’t crazy big like Grand but I also saw the most people. I really like the consultsnts their as well and they’d don’t seem to be that money crazyed but seem to be proud of their work which I like. I will update more tomorrow but please feel free to comment as I will check on this before I pass out tonight. It is real work guys to consult. You gotta be on your A game and ask questions until you feel better have no regrets. So what do you think? Which of three clinics would you choose if you were me?
Chin, Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/new-live-in-korea-des-and-fat-graft.909229/
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chlak5Review13 Jul 15100
Hi Guys.

So today is the one month mark update. So far I’m really pleased with my result. Although my left eye is a little more bruised then my right, I’m confident that it looks really good and finally gaining my confidence my back. Yes, this was a revision case, and from my experience this time, although eye surgery is a very common one, it is also a very delicate surgery. Dr. Yoo Won Jae spent nearly 4 hours on my eyes for both double eyelid revision and epicanthoplasty. Fat graft was much easier, and the whole surgery was less than 30 minutes or less and Dr. Park did a great job. I did lose some volume from the first day I started but that’s expected. One way I can tell I retained it is that people can’t point out what I exactly did but they are saying my nose looks bigger, and I have less wrinkles (Fat graft can work as a botox on your forehead, or at least for me). However one thing to note that, when you go in for consultation, you have to make sure your consultant and doctors are on the same page.

Dream is really good, but I couldn’t get my lateral canthopexy done because on the day of the surgery Dr. Yoo said he wouldn’t perform it on me. He said because of his beauty ideals, but there are other doctors at Dream like Dr. Anna and Dr. Cho who perform lateral canthopexy perhaps more than Dr. Yoo. It seem like Dr. Yoo takes practical approach and didn’t want me to have complications. But now I think of it, if I performed lateral canthopexy, he would have been performing for hours (maybe up to 7 hours?), and he had one more person after me so it also made sense for me now. I did bring this up with Ms. Lee and one of the consultant there, and they were confused at first since I didn’t have any stitches on my lateral sides, and I had to tell them he infact didn’t perform on me. Since I already paid for the surgery, I decided to come back next year and get it when I get my fat graft touch up with Dr. Park, and of course without payment since I already paid for it. I’m going to contact Dream and Ms. Lee about my lateral canthopexy agreement soon and I will let you guys know how it goes and how I get treated because this is very important as a patient and this will let us know about their post op treatment towards their patients. I am willing to wait a year but definitely not paying for the surgery I already previously paid for. Anyways, I’m still a bit swollen so I’m putting green tea bag on my eyes at night to reduce swelling as well as putting kelacote for scar and the antibacterial ointment they gave me as well. I’m also considering doing acculift and perhaps quick zygoma with Dr. Kim if he performs it. Let me know if you guys have anymore questions.

My kako ID is chalk5. It’s not chlak5 so apologize for those who could’ find me. Cheers.
Eyes, Fat Grafthttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/new-live-in-korea-des-and-fat-graft.909229/page-2#post-28855012
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chlak5Review15 July 15100
Hi Guys.

So I contacted Dream about it, and everything is clear, and I’m really happy with their post op service. I contacted different kakao they have with different consultants. They quickly searched their computer for the consultation, and send me snapshot of it. And I mistakenly thought lateral pexy and lateral plasty was the same, but if you know Korean pexy, Lateral canthoplasty is &#46263;&#53944;&#51076; and lateral canthopexy is &#48120;&#53944;&#51076;. And I did the latter which opens up the space about right below your pupil rather than the side. They even asked the head consultant and Dr. Yoo to verify everything, and even encouraged me to write emails to the head consultant and the doctor himself if I still have more questions or concerns. So I’m really satisfied now, and know I got my moneys worth at Dream and learned that their post service op is great as well. Later when I return for fat graft touch up I want to get &#46263;&#53944;&#51076;, acculift, and perhaps zygoma reduction (The Quick and Secret (the bone is pushed in no screws or plates) one rather than traditional zygoma where you cut the bone). Cheers and good luck with your research and hopefully my review has been helpful!
Aftercarehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/new-live-in-korea-des-and-fat-graft.909229/page-2#post-28864710
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chlak5Review3 Aug 15100
Hey. I did lateral canthopexy and revisisional double eyelid. I’m looking forward to get done lateral canthoplasty next time. I was also under sleeping anesthesia so its sleep induced so you are able to follow the directions that are asked of you like open your eyes, look one way and look other way because little measurements matter. I heard Dr Yoo is a great, and his work is phenomenal. He only does 2 surgeries a day I believe, and really puts in his best work and he will tell you not he won’t perform on you if he think it will do harm than good. So I love his honesty. Dr Yoo is the eyelid revision, and incisions specialist while Dr. Park is for non incisional. There are other doctors like Dr. Anna and Dr. Cho who are great with eyes as well and can do more specific ones like lateral canthoplasty. Do you have kakao? Mine is chalk5
Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/new-live-in-korea-des-and-fat-graft.909229/page-2#post-28964405
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chlak5Review22 Dec 15-100
Hi Guys.

I was wondering how long it takes for crease to sit down. I like the height but I think the crease is a little thick for my taste, and I want to reduce it. Is it because it’s excess skin, fat, or just swollen? It’s been 6 months, and I want the crease to shrink by half honestly. I read some posts saying Teuim gives you shots to reduce them. I was wondering if someone had this experience.

So I know zygoma is rather an invasive surgery. I would like to reduce the cheekbones, but I’m afraid it will make to look completely different after getting the double eyelid surgery an all already. (I’m a guy by the way). But acculift also seems to mimic zygoma as well. What do you think? I want to look myself and not someone else, and natural as possible. Give me some opinions please.

Thanks all in advance!
Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/how-to-reduce-thick-crease-after-des-plus-zygoma-vs-acculift.929568/
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chlak5Review1 Mar 17-100
Hi Guys,
I got fat grafting done on my face including forehead, nose, etc.

And I had pretty good retention.but now I’m regretting it because it’s so shiny and they just shine in sunlight!
They added volume which I appreciate, but now I’m thinking to get rid of it.

I plan to do acculift for my chin anyhow, and might as well melt fat on my forehead and nose which I don’t want anymore.

I also have large head and big face, and I feel that I have lots of fat. I would like to get rid of it through fat melting process whether it’s face lipo or acculift. Any recommendations?

Thank you!
Fat Grafthttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/face-lipo-acculift-shiny-after-fat-grafting.961575/
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cinnamongirl06
Rumor4 Apr 13100
I have booked consultation at JW, Regen and BK. All of them emailed me back. I wanted to add one more clinic to my list since JW is on top of my list but seems like it’s fully booked till the end of Apr…so I need to have more options just in case I can’t go for JW.

My friend’s friend just got her nose done at Dream with really good result..that’s why I wanted to try Dream :shucks:

I’m planning for rhinoplasty for the bridge, tip and alar.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/best-plastic-surgery-clinics-in-korea-read-1st-post-before-posting.780226/page-352#post-24337468
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cloudbusting
Review10 Jun 14-100
Hey everyone,

I went to AT (Teuim) and Dream for consultations yesterday. I arrived in Seoul very early in the morning and went to my appointments soon after.

The flat I rented is near AT Clinic so we walked there. It was about a two minute walk. I had headshots taken right after filling out paperwork. After that the wait was short. I only had to wait about 10 minutes to see Dr. Park. Dr. Park was really nice and funny, he high-fived me when I came into his office. He suggested open rhino with goretex and rib graft for a lengthened tip or septal for a simple nasal bulb reduction. My mother consulted with me for her 3rd rhino revision. Dr. Park proposed the same method for her. He said using donor rib is not preferable, because there’s a high risk that the donor material is HIV positive(!!). The consultation was very intensive, and Dr. Park drew many diagrams for us. He said he prefers to see his patients after surgery everyday to ensure proper healing. I thought that was a nice touch.

After, I consulted with Dr. Kwon for double eyelid revision. He is a somewhat serious guy, but you can tell he knows exactly what he’s doing. I felt very comfortable with him. With negotiation, the girl who spoke to us about pricing was a bit awkward, and wouldn’t really reduce the price for us. The total came out to 15.5 million krw, AFTER negotiating and before taxes. We knew we weren’t going with this clinic. Price was too high for us.

Next, we went to Dream to consult with Dr. Park Yang Soo. I had an appointment scheduled for 5pm. We had to wait an hour just to see the consultant. I was pissed about this because I was so tired and jet lagged. When we finally saw the consultant, Mi Yeong Lee, I explained to her that I wanted a double eyelid revision and primary rhino. For my eyes, Mi Yeong Lee suggested an upper facial/brow lift and mediepicanthoplasty for me. She said the brow lift will address the drooping over my eyelid crease. I thought this was interesting.

After we saw the consultant, we had to wait another hour to see Dr. Park Yang Soo at 7:30pm. He was in a surgery gown and seemed very tired. My first impression of him was that he was serious and not very friendly. Our consultation with him was very short and he said I would need open rhino with septal/ear cartilage and possibly donor rib. I asked for closed rhino, and he said open rhino is necessary because I have a lot of excess thick skin and this method it would allow more refinement- he also didn’t touch my nose. I explained to Dr. Park that I want to lengthen my nose, and have a much more defined tip. I felt like he thought that was an irritating comment, because after I said that he just blankly stared at me. For my mother, he suggested the same thing. Dr. Park also said he would be unable to do my eye surgery, as it is not his speciality. I was unable to meet the eye specialist as it was already after 7:30pm, and the clinic was technically closed. This was maddening, as I showed up for my appointment on time, and was kept waiting and waiting and they were unable to provide me with a comprehensive consultation.

Mi Yeong Lee discussed pricing with us after the consultation with Dr. Park. I decided against the upper face lift, as the pricing was too high for me. I settled on epicanthoplasty and rhino only. My mother chose to have her revision at Dream as well. Mi Yeong Lee said their eye specialist would perform the epicanthoplasty. I should have been more thorough and asked more information about the eye surgeon, but I was so so tired. All I know he is a male doctor. The consultant also said that the doctor wasn’t sure if he would use the donor rib on my mother and I, because we may or may not need it. If we needed it, we would be charged extra for it after the surgery. I thought that was very unusual, and what’s to stop them from charging us for it anyway? I tried to negotiate more on the price, but was only able to get a little over 10% off. I mentioned Purseforum and got a “don’t know, don’t care” impression from the consultant about it, but my mother and I were satisfied with the price, so we went ahead and booked the surgery in two days. We were required to pay a deposit of 1 million won, which we charged on a credit card.

So my surgery is tomorrow, and I’m a little scared and excited. I’m going to make sure I address any other concerns with the doctor tomorrow before surgery.. because I feel like not enough attention was paid to me during my consultation. Also, I think the additional charge for donor material should be worked out. If the doctor decides to use it, that could make the surgery much more costly. I regret that I wasn’t on top of it during the entire 3 hours of consulting. I was so seriously tired and starving, and only slept a couple hours on the plane. Anyway, positive vibes only from now on. I’ll update more later!
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-3.731363/page-328#post-26899710
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cloudbusting
Review14 Jun 14-100
Finally posting an update on my surgery @ DREAM. I have been busy watching re-runs of my favorite TV show. I’ll start from my surgery day^^

SURGERY DAY
My mother and I had our surgeries scheduled for 10:30am. There was an issue with billing (my mom forgot her credit card at our flat!) and so a driver at Dream drove my friend back to get it. I was so embarrassed! Jasinee, our coordinator at Dream, held onto our passports as collateral so we could proceed with our scheduled surgeries. We were taken to another floor to change and store our belongings in a locker. Nail polish had to be removed on both index fingers for the heart rate monitor. We went through a checklist and signed some final paper work with Jasinee.

My mother went in for surgery first. Because Dr. Park can only operate on one patient at a time, lol, I had to wait about 3 hours in an empty recovery room before I could go into the operating floor. I was very anxious of course, with 3 hours to kill. Daphne and Jasinee frequently checked in on me to see how I was doing.

Finally, it was time for me to be prepped. I was taken to the operating floor and directed to lie on the surgery bed. I saw Dr. Park finishing up on my mother in the next room. Then, I noticed a big clear container near the my surgery bed that was filled with blood(!) and an old towel that had spotty blood stains. That freaked me out. So I lied down and was directed to shift certain ways while the nurse wiped me down with disinfectant. Jasinee was by my side the entire time. An IV needle was inserted into my left inner wrist and then I was out.

I woke up while Dr. Cho was harvesting my septal cartilage. She had already finished with my ear. I could feel her scraping away and I began to moan “PAIN PAIN,” I began to tear quite a bit. Dr. Cho ignored me and kept going at it aggressively. I felt so vulnerable. Maybe she was pissed that I chose not to have her do my eyelid surgery? Who knows. The nurse was also aggressive and had her elbow resting on the IV needle that was inserted into my wrist. I remember thinking that they were like two mean school girls torturing me. I wanted to be put out again.

After Dr. Cho was done, she pushed all the surrounding trays and stormed out of the operating room. I remember thinking that she was temperamental. The nurse threw some kind of wet nap over my nose, which I knew was “open” while waiting for Dr. Park to take over. I heard clinic staff laughing outside of the operating room, because the doors were always kept open. The outside noise startled me. When Dr. Park finally came in, I began to feel calm. Another round of sedation kicked in and I was out (but not completely). Dr. Park finished up my nose and I completely regained consciousness while he stitched me up. The stitching hurt because I could feel the needle go in and out.

When I was all done, I was directed to sit up and lift myself into a wheel chair. Jasinee said I was awake for almost the entire surgery. The nurse who wheeled me out practically raced me over the elevator. I think she was trying to see how fast she could go before I vomited all over the place. She took me to the recovery room where my mom was already resting. Jasinee came in and informed me that they are going to charge me an additional 1.65 mil won for donor rib that was used on me (not my mom). She asked us when we wanted to pay, and I replied that it would be convenient for us to pay at our follow up appointment. She said that’s not possible and the clinic needs to be paid immediately. Luckily my friend (who was waiting on the 2F) had his travel credit card on him, so we charged it onto that. My mother and I got dressed after that and a driver at Dream drove us back to our flat where I had a small bowl of plain oatmeal and then passed out until the next day.

POST-OP DAY 1
No swelling or bleeding the day after surgery. I got up and made a smoothie with a mini lightweight blender and fresh produce I purchased from E-mart. I used lettuce, pineapple, apple, banana and lemon. I had a small bowl of oatmeal sweetened with stevia for breakfast. For lunch and dinner I made vegetarian baechu-doenjangguk (cabbage and soybean paste soup) with fermented soybean paste I purchased from the Hyundai Department Store next to Dream the day of my consultation. To avoid excessive sodium, I only added a little paste and also tofu and napa cabbage.

POST-OP DAY 2
I woke up with the worst swelling. My face had completely ballooned overnight. I went to Dream for my follow up and to have the gauze removed from nostril. It was a little painful because the wound was still sore of course. The nurse was very nice and gentle. Jasinee was by my side translating for me. I was told to wait an additional 40 minutes to see Dr. Park. He evaluated me and said that I didn’t need a nose retainer and that everything looks good. The nurse informed me that they won’t be able to get all my stitches out and I’ll have to have the rest removed in my home country.

POST-OP DAY 3
My nose is leaking like crazy and is so stuffed, I can only breathe through my mouth. I walked to Orange Pharmacy in Gangnam to buy Arnica Cream for my mom’s bruises. Orange didn’t have it but the pharmacy two doors down did. It’s called “BRUISING+” and it’s made by Kadis Natural Health Care. A 30g tube cost 10,000 won. I also purchased saline solution and cotton swabs. Now I’m going out to buy pumpkin and more pineapple from a local market. Produce in Korea is SO expensive!

My final check-up is three days from today. I will update later and I might post pics ?
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-3.731363/page-332#post-26924263
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cloudbusting
Review14 Jun 14100
I was surprised too, I said the exact same thing to the consultant that I heard most open rhinos are done under GA. I asked for “extra” sedation before the surgery and was told by the nurse that it’s too dangerous. I think the accident at Grand got all the clinics shook up.

Lol, I have to be meticulous because of dietary restrictions. I researched beforehand where to buy specific products and recipes to make, etc. Cheesecake does sound good though.

Thanks K, my nose is looking pretty good so far. I can’t say for sure but I think my tip looks more defined than I thought it would. I won’t be able to say whether or not I’m satisfied until much later. From my experience so far, I think open rhino is very suitable for those with bulbous noses who are looking for more tip definition.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-3.731363/page-332#post-26924351
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cloudbusting
Review22 Jun 14-100
Hey guys,

I am now 11 days post-op, 5 days post cast removal and I am no longer in Korea. Swelling is going down slowly day by day and the incision across my columella has completely healed. But I am not having a celebration just yet, lol.

Right now, my nose looks like an enormous bulging bird beak. I don’t know if this is normal but it is totally freaking me out. There’s a lot of fullness in my supratip and overall it looks like I have too much projection. My tip looks too long. Maybe Dr. Park should have excised more tissue from my tip area. My nose looks like a round ball that has been stretched out a bit lengthwise, if that makes sense. It kind of resembles a pollybeak deformity. Idk if it’s swelling because I had a really thick round supratip to begin with.

Has anyone experienced something similar to this? I am wondering if I should get a steroid shot from another surgeon (since I’m in another country now).

Funny, my mother’s nose healed perfectly and looks beautiful. Her tip came down and is a lot longer now. Now I’m the anxious one 🙁
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cloudbusting
Review6 July 14-100
Hey all,

3 1/2 weeks post-op now and my nostrils are still crooked. Anyone know if this is probably due to swelling? I am so worried.
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cloudbusting
Rumor15 Jun 14-100
Thanks, I am pleased with my results so far but my mother isn’t pleased with her revision. I told her it’s too soon to tell and it will get better over time. She thinks her nose is too short, pig-like and worse than before.

Dr. Cho doesn’t seem like a very nice doctor. I didn’t meet her at the consultation. Daphne told me right before my surgery that Dr. Cho would be working alongside Dr. Park for my operation. So I only “met” her during surgery, and my opinion of her is based on her aggressive bedside manner.

I got an ultra-soft silicone implant, 3.5mm. Dr. Park said I couldn’t go higher because my forehead is too low. I also got tip plasty.

In general, most clinics ridiculously photoshop B&A photos. Some v-line photos on the TLPS website are laughable, in the before photos the patient purposefully rests her chin on her chest, creating a double chin look. Don’t go by B&A photos. Dream hardly has any on their website and it doesn’t mean that they don’t have good results. During my consultation at Dream, the consultant showed me a ton of B&A photos that aren’t on their website.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-3.731363/page-332#post-26927942
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cloudbusting
Rumor22 June 14100
Hey guys,

I am now 11 days post-op, 5 days post cast removal and I am no longer in Korea. Swelling is going down slowly day by day and the incision across my columella has completely healed. But I am not having a celebration just yet, lol.

Right now, my nose looks like an enormous bulging bird beak. I don’t know if this is normal but it is totally freaking me out. There’s a lot of fullness in my supratip and overall it looks like I have too much projection. My tip looks too long. Maybe Dr. Park should have excised more tissue from my tip area. My nose looks like a round ball that has been stretched out a bit lengthwise, if that makes sense. It kind of resembles a pollybeak deformity. Idk if it’s swelling because I had a really thick round supratip to begin with.

Has anyone experienced something similar to this? I am wondering if I should get a steroid shot from another surgeon (since I’m in another country now).

Funny, my mother’s nose healed perfectly and looks beautiful. Her tip came down and is a lot longer now. Now I’m the anxious one 🙁
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-3.731363/page-335#post-26967806
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COORumor26 Dec 12100
Hi all,
Just an update of my status. I am currently in Seoul and had have my primary nose job last friday 🙂
The entire experience was pleasant so far.
Just to share some of my experience here: Like most of the forumers, I started research on Seoul clinics via websites and forums. And had shortlisted the clinics based on some reviews and recommendations. At the very last few weeks before Seoul trip, we (and two other friends) had decided to get translators which have turned out to be a very right decision 🙂 Of course, it is highly dependent on the quality translators. Hence, be extra cautious when hiring a translator.
I was struggled to get a trustworthy translator: how can you trust someone without knowing her in person? I was searching through the website and found my translator via Baidu (luckily I can communicate well in mandarin). After a few conversations with her, she had completely changed my favorite clinics to what she recommended. Very scary…because most people would suspect she might mislead me to her clinics (this was what I felt at first). Hahaha…make the story short, I eventually decided to take risk and follow her recommendations.
The first day arrived in Seoul, we met in the rented apartment near Sinsa Station (5-10 minutes walking distance), and started consultations immediately. Had consultation with four clinics in the first day from Dream, Cinderella, Nano and Migo. In general, all clinics except Cinderella which doctor was not available to see me during consultation, all other three doctors gave similar recommendations. I felt good with Nano as the doctor asked me whose nose I would like to have and I showed him some pictures, he looked at my picture and the celebrity’s picture and said OK. Actually Nano is a small clinic and all koreans not in-house translators like those big clinics. If not because of my translator, for sure, I would be visiting this clinic. Until now, I also felt I was quite daring to choose this clinic :p

So far, I am happy with my nose (not too high not too low, hehehe my original nose was flat and bulbous). Tomorrow I will have a follow up check up and remove the cast. Hopefully, I will love it ?
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cstrikeReview26 Feb 12-100
No point asking online, go to a solid eye doctor like dr kwon from teuimps or dr cho from bandoeye.
Anyway I’m bored so I thought I’d write up a review of my experience with various clinics in shinsa dong (gangnam).
I went to 5 clinics mainly about eye surgery.
I’m a male btw, but girls will probably have similar experiences and opinions.
Global – globalps.co.kr
Doctor seemed pretty sincere but not sure if I trusted his skill because he kept saying he didn’t really want to perform surgery on my eyes as they were very difficult to operate on.
No one was in the waiting room when I arrived but I saw two girls come in on the way out.
Recommended rev epi, rev DE, ptosis and lateral cantho.
WSTAR – wstarw.co.kr
Pretty fancy office, heaps of celebrity photos on the wall (including that really famous ulzzang guy, park something…? Looked like he had his nose done there but not sure).
Saw a consultant who was pretty thorough and knowledgeable. The surgeon was operating so he saw us afterward. He warned me of the risks of lateral cantho which was good to know.
However, I felt the clinic was a bit too commercial. Also the receptionists looked hot but kinda…plastic.
Photos on the website look pretty solid though.
POPular – pop-ps.com

Doctor kinda rushed through the consultation, he didn’t really take a very thorough look at my eyes.
Recommended the same procedures as everywhere else.
The photos on the website looked kinda mediocre so I decided to go elsewhere.
Dream – dreamps.co.kr
Was walking through shinsa dong and decided to check out all the big ones like samsung line, dream and regen.
Samsung was fully booked till the next week -_-
Next was dream, which is pretty much a huge plastic surgery factory. I think it has several branches and the one in shinsa dong was pretty massive.
Heaps of people waiting, which meant our wait was pretty long.
Saw a consultant first, who didn’t appear to be as good as the one from WSTAR.
After another long wait we saw a doctor, who seemed kind of incompetent. He kept going on and on about inane/unrelated stuff and I got impatient.
When he finally got down to my eyes he said he couldn’t clear up my epi scars (uhhhh…really?) and that I should only get rev double eylid surgery without ptosis or lateral cantho.
On the way out I saw a girl who was getting stitches taken out and her eyes looked pretty mediocre because she either didn’t get epi at all or not enough which meant her eyes looked too far apart…..
Didn’t really have time to go to regen afterward, nor the energy….
TEUIM – teuimps.co.kr
Yay! Finally we arrive at teuim 🙂 🙂
Dr kwon looked at my eyes very thoroughly and I had to open and close my eyes several times. He got straight down to details and told me I couldn’t get parallel crease OR have very big double eyelids because my eyes were very small by nature (goodbye my dream of having won bin eyes 🙁 🙁 ).
At first he didn’t want to give me double eyelids at all but he said he could create thin ones if I wanted. So in the end he gave me in-out folder ones.
The receptionists here are very helpful and accomodating, especially the one that doubles as a consultant (she’s the one with the big, pretty eyes).
I’m not sure what it is, but there’s an endearing quality about Dr kwon that puts you at ease after he examines your eyes, like you’re under the hands of someone who really knows their craft AND cares about the patient…
After that, and having already seen the before and after pics on his website, I pretty much had to have my surgery here.
He recommended rev epi, rev double eyelid and ptosis. He didn’t recommend lateral cantho because he said it would take too long to do all 4 at once and that visually, the results might be better if I do lateral afterward.
The total cost for just those 3 procedures was more expensive than all the others but it was well worth it.
Oh btw teuim had the hottest girls waiting BY FAR…. I only saw like one super hot girl at dream out of like 30…maybe either all the hotties are on the inside or Dr Kwon made them hot 🙂
Today is day 3 after surgery and my eyes have not even swollen much at all. Saw my grandmother today and she didn’t even notice I had surgery but said that my eyes looked so big….lol!!!! But she is pretty old, maybe her sight is failing her 😛
I’ll put up some photos at week 1 and month 1, incl my before photo.
For those thinking about eyelid surgery…….go to either teuimps or bandoeye. You can’t compromise when it comes to your face. You MUST go with the best. Save up a bit and do it right the first time.
I didn’t go to bandoeye because it was too expensive and besides, I liked Dr kwon’s aesthetic style.
Nailbunny I’m keen to see how ur eyes turned out!
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DabinRumor25 Jan 10-100
btw i live in seoul been here for 2+ years (krn american) do not go to BK or dream or grand. They are heavily advertised and have multiple surgeons. its best to go to a clinic in korea with 1 surgeon.

my unni told me that if u go to grand, their is so many. so u think ur gonna get the top surgeon but u end up getting another one. just be careful with those places…

Grand is so advertsied, ur on the subway and they even announce that thats the stop from grand surgery clinic &#12636;&#12636;
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DaffodileifaReview13 May 16100
Hi, guys. Just wanna share about my surgery so it might be a long post. I just got back from Seoul and I think I should write a bit about my experience so that everyone can have another hospital to consider 🙂

What I do is Non-Incision Double Eyelid Surgery at Dream Plastic Surgery with Dr. Park.
Before I went to Seoul for my Surgery, I already shortlisted some clinic which were:

(1) Teuim (2) Opera (3) JW (4) Dream

After much discuss session with my friend, we dropped Opera and Teuim off our list. People who already done their surgery at Teuim used to say that they feel pain at the end of surgery and the surgery took a long time, honestly I have a really low pain tolerance so I move Teuim to the last of list (it might sound lame but i really hate if i have to feel pain especially if it near my eyes). However, if this isn’t an issue for you then go ahead since I heard a lot of people have successfull surgery at Teuim. As for Opera, some forumer post an article where it says that Opera have some issue that make it to be included to the blacklisted list, this might have nothing to do with the eyes specialist but I rather go somewhere that have better reputation.

Thus that leave JW and Dream. My friend and I were leaning toward JW more than Dream, but JW did something that turn me off completely:shucks: ( I will not write it here but if you wanna know just PM me). And that means Dream is the last choice. So we contacted Dream via Kakaotalk and reserve our consultation and operation date, thankfully Dr. Park is available at that time. I choose Dr. Park because I heard that he is the rhinoplasty and non-incision eye specialist there. The other reason is their reality show video ?Let me in? show a very good job done by Dr. Park and I just like his style and the result. After setting for the appointment, the consultant arranged the driver to pick us up at 2nd May.

My consultation should be on 10am but I couldn?t arrive in time because my plane?s time of arrival is too close but fortunately they still can squeeze us in to see Dr. Park at 11.30am. Dr. Park is like everybody said, soft-spoken and very polite. He has an calming effect and he smiles a lot in the consultation which I found really comforting. Dr. Park can speak good english, but avoid talking too fast so that he can get your meaning clearly. There is also an english translator that accompany us while we are there and her english is really good so it?s fine if you cannot speak Korean.

Dr. Park recommend for me to do non-incision double eyelid surgery and medical epicanthoplasty, which is optional. I am not sure about epi and don’t want to do it just to regret it later so I choose only non-incision. After that we decide on the height of my crease then after some q&a session, we leave the exam room. Because the consultant is quite busy we have lunch first at McD downstair :biggrin:, which I am quite happy with because I don?t have to walk too far to find food.

When go back up, the english translator take us to see the consultant, Helene, to decided on the price. I am not good at negotiation so 10% off is fine for me. Beside I don’t think I can bring the price too low since my friend and I only do a non-incision surgery. After we agreed at the price which is KRW 1,620,000 with 7% tax refund. We pay the deposit of KRW 200,000 then receive a reservation card. I was told to go back tomorrow at 9.30am

We arrived at Dream at 9.10am, it is still early so there is only the receptionist. We wait for a bit and at 9.30am we were greet by our english translator, Julia, and were directed to finish the payment. For the tax refund, they printed the recipe right after we finish the payment. It will require passport so make sure you bring it. After that they ushered us to the 5th floor where they told us to get ready. Julia asked us some basic information regarding medical history and ask us to fill an consent form for anasthesia. She also gave us the aftercare package which include tablets, ointment and eyedrop.

I wait for quite a while before we are taken to the 6th floor for our last consult with Dr. Park. Once again we decide the height of the crease and Dr. Park marked it. I was the first on to go to the surgery room while my friend wait for me. My surgery itself take maybe only 30 mins, so it was very fast.

After they took me to the operation room, they prepped me and sanitize my face. Dr. Park come not long after that. He draw another line to my skin where he plan on putting the suture. I find it funny when he told me to open and close my eyes using several different intonation. It was like he is singing XD. Next come the anasthesia injection which honestly is the most painful part, it only last seconds though. My memory is kinda blurry so I cannot really understand what is going on. The only thing that i remember is the pressure the nurse put near my eyes and when Dr. Park pull at the suture to adjust it. Next thing I know, everything is done and I can move off the bed. Like I said, very fast! 😆

A nurse accompany me to the elevator and give me ice gel pack. She told me to ice my eyes for the first 3 days frequently and for me to wait at the 5th floor for my friend. Dream is very busy at that day so I cannot get any room to rest for a while, probably because my surgery is not very aggressive and the room was filled by patient with more difficult surgery. Julia told me that I could play the computer if I like while I am waiting. My friend?s eyes is more complicated than me so I wait for a while. At that time I just dosed off, play the computer, watch the TV, repeat :roflmfao:. After my friend come down, she have to rest a bit. Before we go back to the hotel, we receive an explanation about the after care kit. I was afraid that my eyes will be really swollen and It will be hard for me to walk back to the hotel, but it didn?t happen. I can still see very clearly, the only difference is the tightness around my eyes.

During my recovery time, I used to walk quite far since it is my first time going to Seoul so there might not be enough time for sightseeing if I just stay at the hotel. Also I drink lots of water because I want to prevent from getting sore throat especially when I enjoy lots of greasy and spicy food. It might be the reason that my eyes is still swollen after a week while my friend?s eyes become perfectly natural :p

As for pumpkin juice, I could not find it until 2 days before I fly back to my home contry, but since I have to buy one box which contain 25 package, I didn?t buy it. You can get the pumpkin juice at a pharmacy near the clinic. Just walk past JW. It located beside a store called Deolor/Deloro? (Sorry If I got it wrong). You have to buy one bulk package, contain 25 package, so it is better for you to buy it right after you are doing the surgery so there is time for you to drink all of it.

I got back to Dream 1 week after my surgery and Dr. Park said that me and my friend?s eyes is healing nicely and everything should look natural after 3 weeks, he directed the statement more to me though because my eyes is still swollen. :p

I think that is all I can share. I am now on days 10 post surgery and very pleased with the result. If you have any question just PM me and I will reply as soon as possible. If you want to talk to me via Kakaotalk just leave your id and I will add you. ?
Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/double-eyelid-surgery-epi-lateral-master-thread.856874/page-76#post-30210575
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dagneyReview13 Jun 10100
So I’m finally back from my consultation trip in Korea and has kinda narrowed my list of doctors down to three possible ones out of 9!
Dr Kwon from Teuim
He does not speak English well but a younger doctor (Dr Kim) translated. He seems like a no nonsense kind of guy.
He said that my eyelids should be brought down by 1/3 when my eyes are full open.
He says that sometimes high fold causes ptosis and that he would then expose the levator muscle to check for ptosis and repair if necc.
He also said that my skin was elastic and I need excision surgery to remove the old scar entirely.
Dr Kim told me that the surgery would flatten out my scar which is currently depressed, fix the “sausage appearance”, and lower the crease, make the inner corner of the crease more natural, and also change it to a dynamic fold.
He also said that “the height of the crease is not the most important thing in high fold correction surgeries.”
However Dr Kwon also said that I needed magic epi “for maximal results” but I’m not sure I agree.
Dr Kang from IOU
This doctor also does not speak English well but got another doctor friend to translate.
He’s one of the authors of a paper “Correction of High Fold without Skin Excision” and recommends that I use this method instead, as he considers skin excision to be “very dangerous”.
However when I mentioned that I did not want to have two scars, he said that he could do both excision and non-excision method. Or we could excise the scar later if it proves to be a problem.
Apparently our eyes have many lateral lines and once the attachment between the skin and the scar tissues are released, the “scar” won’t be so obvious. I went back and took a good look at my scar and it’s true that it is not noticeable except for the depression. I might consider this method.
He’s got some before and after photos on his website / blog which are quite impressive.
This doctor seems quite committed to hearing about what I want. When I asked him about complications / risks, he said that the most important thing is that he knows what I want.
He suggests a 6mm crease, which he says that most people are happy with.
When I asked if the crease could be raise if it turned out to be too low, he said it can be raised with the non-incisional suture method. Although I really should verify this again.
Dr Song from Dream Clinic
My consultation with this doctor was very short, as I did not make an appointment and I’m grateful to the Chinese-speaking assistant for squeezing me in at the last minute.
Dr Song’s method seems slightly different from the other doctors. He said the two ends of the existing crease must remain, and we excise little strip of skin in the middle. He will also release the scar adhesion. When I asked if we needed to worry about scar re-adhesion and how we would prevent it, he said we do not need to worry.
I’m a little worried about this as all the doctors I’ve spoken to said that scar readhsion is the biggest problem that we need to worry about in high fold correction surgeries.
I asked if the unnatural inner corners can be fixed, and the translator said that “small problems like that can be difficult to fix.” But he immediately added that during surgery, they will do whatever they can.
He showed me about 3 B+A photos on film slides so they were very small, but they looked good too.
Of all the doctors, Dr Song was the one that made this surgery sound like “no big deal”, very low risk and no chance of complications. His healing time is also the least: 3 months for complete healing. The downside is that he will only lower the crease very slightly, about 2mm. In fact, he was the only doctor to draw on my eyelid with a red pen. I’m just wondering whether 2mm (eyes closed) would make a difference when the eye is open.
The other doctors that I saw were Dr Kim (BK), Dr Cho (Bandoeye), Dr Back (VIP), Dr Park (Oz), Dr Lee (CJ cosmetic) and a Dr from VIP. If anyone wants to know my experience at any of these places just lemme know.
The thing now is that I’m having a really hard time deciding which doctor to go with. Can you guys chime in with your thoughts on how to choose a doctor? I also can’t decide how much I want to lower my crease, whether it should be lowered by 1/3, 40% or 1/2, as these are different suggestions given by different doctors.
Eyeshttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/27115-double-eyelid-surgery-thread/?do=findComment&comment=13395448
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davincciReview13 Jun 14-100
K and Cloudbusting, thanks for both’s reply.

My case is definitely not complicated. I’ve done face to face with a few other reputable clinics, and they told me I don’t have big issues. One surgeon even told me I’ve got a nice bridge. My nose is a bit short, bottom part looks slightly big and got flaring nostril. The usual recommendations I’ve got before are silicone implant, tip plasty, lengthening of nose, tip debulking, nostril and base reduction.

The quote I’ve got from at least 5 other clinics are between 4-5m. Dream quoted me almost double.:mad::mad::mad:
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davincciReview8 Oct 14100
I’m now 2 weeks post-op, bridge comes down to normal height (I like), tip is very defined and less of my nostrils are showing. The tip is still slightly stiff but the tissue around it has soften a lot. There’s no scar around my alar at all. I asked for a natural nose and it turns out exactly how I want it to be (Actually better coz I didn’t know they can narrow my wide bridge without using silicone implant). I’ve told no one about the surgery, and none of my friends nor co-workers ask about it. I still look like me, and you can only see the different if you compare picture by picture. I’m glad I picked Dream. I also went for a consultation at their dermatologist centre (same building), prices are not bad. I might do some laser or ultrasound treatment when I come next.


For Lipo, my bruises are more or less gone, just some small patches left. Still some swelling in inner and back of my thighs, other areas look normal. So I can wear knee length skirts. My thighs are visibly smaller even when I take off the compression garment. The thickest part of my thighs dropped 4.5cm. According to 365Mc, they’ve sucked out 2400cc (Wow!) and my thighs will continue to slim down gradually in next 6 months. I also have a few more treatments to complete within 6 months, which will improve further.


TIPS:
I walked at least 30 mins a day, take bus instead of train to walk more. Been to the gym frequently.


I brought baby oil to massage my lipo bruises religiously. Bruises went down a lot in 2 days. You can also use Arnica cream.


Highly recommend Arnica pills, its very good for de-bruising and de-swelling. I’m also taking Vit B and C. I drink manuka honey with lots of lemon at least once a day during first week. One apple a day, also got pumpkin juice and pumpkin porridge. Absolutely NO Vit E and aspirin as they thin blood.


I asked Dream to give me a straw. Q-tips are very useful to clean your nostril.


Don’t forget to apply the ointment they give you as it helps to make the scars invisible. (I applied a lot more than they instructed, so started to have white spots growing right before suture removal. But is all good now)


Avoid salty and spicy food for a while, no alcohol. I cook light meals like dumplings, stir fried vegetables, tofu and I made japchae. Avoid eggs, shellfish, soya sauce, shiitake mushrooms? and some said beef.



Go during low season. I’m glad 365 can schedule next-day surgery and Dream can schedule same day surgery for me. Surgeons also spent so much time with me as it’s not crazy busy. There’s probably more promotion during low season as well. I saw 2.8m fat graft breast augmentation also some 1+1 promotion at 365Mc.


For those who are interested in 365Mc, their lipo includes few sessions of RF, CO2 and fat melting treatment, so best to stay at least 2 weeks after surgery. Since I can’t stay that long, they promised me to keep those procedures for me for the next 6 months. Suggest you to do it during winter… the compression garment is tight and hot…


If money is not an issue, I highly recommend Gangnam Artnoveaucity Hotel. It’s a residence turned hotel, with room service, gym, in-room kitchen, washing machine and a big fridge. My room is spacious with a living room and bedroom. 2 mins walk from Gangnam station, 3 mins walk from supermarket, hair/nail salon next door and loads of restaurants around.


That’s it from me for now. Welcome any questions, but ‘m not planning to share any photos for personal reasons. Thanks for understanding guys!
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davincciReview8 Oct 14100
So it’s my turn to give something back to this forum. I will disclose all the clinics I went for consultation as well as surgery to make this useful. I don’t care if you think I’m a promoter or not, I’m just telling you my experience. After all, it’s your job to do research, not just on the procedures you are interested in, but also on the person who’s writing the post you are reading. It’s not hard to identify possible promoters if you read enough and find hints.


CONSULTATION: Item, EverM, Banobagi, April31, Dream, 365Mc… Jw and 101 was originally on my list but can’t go due to timing issue.
MY ISSUE: slight asymmetric face, chin shifted to the right, nose slightly slanted to left, short nose, fat alar, dark circles, I’m not fat, BMI 20.5, but imbalance at hip and thighs area.
PROCEDURES I’m originally interested in: rhinoplasty, v-line, fat graft, laser-lipo
PROCEDURES I’ve done: rhinoplasty, liposuction, fillers
CLINIC I picked: Dream, 365Mc


I’ve done a few consultation in my own country and my dentist talked me out of v-line surgery as the risk/reward is too high for my case. I chose fillers to correct dark circles in the end as I believe fighting ageing/ fat draining is a long term process, so it’s better to find some non-invasive ways.


As some of your might know, I was in seoul few months ago for my first round of consultation. It was rush back then and I won’t say I was 100% clear about what I need and want. I visited Item, EverM and Banobagi back then, overall I think Item got nice B&A, Dr Kim is knowledgeable, but I don’t like the fact he suggested osteotomy when I realised now I don’t really need it. The consultant also quoted me higher than email and said the prices in email was a mistake. I think is BS. EverM would have been my choice if I’m doing v-line, they are professional, specialised and safe. And I don’t like Banobagi. Here’s my previous review: http://forum.purseblog.com/plastic-surgery-and-cosmetic-procedures/plastic-surgery-clinics-korea-read-1st-post-before-864175-36.html#post26900009



SURGERY TRIP:
MONDAY- consultation
Dream – Mid size clinic, not too busy, professional, comfortable reception area, clean and bright. Daphne is my translator. She’s super sweet, patient and easy to talk to. She’s Singaporean and gives a vibe that she can be trusted. Tipped by other forumer (thanks :biggrin:), I specifically asked for Ms Lee as my consultant. She’s nice, not too pushy and somehow calmed me down a lot (I was actually freaking out when I board the plane). Dr Park is very nice, English proficiency is pretty good too. He tried his best to answer all my questions himself. I asked him many technical questions as I’ve been researching on different methods and materials. He’s very patient and drew many many pictures to explain to me in details. His smile is somehow confident and got this soothing effect lol. He said I have a high enough bridge, so implant is not necessary. He suggested close surgery: tip plasty with septal and ear cartilage, alar weir (open from side of alar), he’ll relocate my septum since it’s slanted to the left, slight lengthening and will have autologous fat+ cartilage transfer to my bridge as it will not be as smooth after relocation. I was very worried about scarring for alar weir, but they assured me a few times it will be invisible. Price: 4.7m for everything mentioned.


April31 – Mid size clinic, slightly smaller than Dream, quiet. Brian, my translator is really caring and responsive to Kakao. I don’t have much impression towards the consultant as I’ve only spent a short moment with her. Dr kim is nice, English proficiency is similar to dr park. He also drew a few pictures to explain to me about his method. He also said it is ok not to have implant. But he only suggested tip plasty as he said my left slanted nose is naturally balanced out by my right slanted philtrum. Price: 6m for only tip plasty (Brian said price has been raised since our email but he’ll give me the price he quoted. I think is BS to avoid me bargaining for more and I think it’s very overpriced)


365Mc – They have a few centres. I went to the one near Gangnam, which is a whole building of 13 storeys. Well equipped with fat evaluation, ultrasound and 3D fat scans. But they have over 12 doctors and you don’t usually get to choose your doctor. I was interested in their laser lipolysis, LAMS and liposuction. My English translator was Hyelim. After discussion, I’ve decided to have liposuction on my thighs (whole). Price: 4m + 320k compression garments.




Decisions
>>> I picked 365Mc as their quote is reasonable and they are specialised in fat removal.


>>> I picked Dream because they do close surgery, professional, price reasonable, the few procedures he suggested really make me feel that he wants to make my nose look more perfect. And most importantly I think Dr Park’s evaluation on my slanted nose makes more sense. (Btw Dr Park is graduated from Korea’s top university, SNU)
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/full-report-dream-365mc-april31-item-everm-banobagi.883379/
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davincciReview8 Oct 14100
TUESDAY – 365Mc liposuction
I did all the blood tests and check-ups on Monday evening. Final consultation Tue morning with my assigned dr, Dr. Che-Won. He drew some architectural lines on my body and told me how he’s going to shape my legs to optimal shape. Then I was brought into the operation room. When I woke up, I was already back in the ward, in the compression garment.


First night was the most painful esp when I tried to sit on the toilet. But I would say, the pain is bearable. I didn’t take the pain killers they gave me as I might have my rhinoplasty on Wed and I don’t want to risk it. I peeked in side my compression garment and as expected, my whole thigh is black (bruised).



WEDNESDAY – Checkup at 365, they cleaned my wounds and taught me how to massage my legs to help with recovery. I felt totally fine so decided to go for rhinoplasty that day. I called Daphne from Dream and she scheduled my surgery that afternoon (Glad I come during low season). I had final consultation with Ms. Lee as well as Dr. park. I was extremely scared before I walked up to the building, but again, they somehow calmed me down.


Surgery at Dream was such an adventure and I really need to share. For those who has read my previous notes should know, I was freaking out about waking up during surgery. After reading a few recent posts, I already prepared myself for the worst. I told Daphne that it will scar me for life, and told her to make sure they put me back to sleep if I’m waking up. Daphne was standing there talking to me about her next holiday, then she said they are injecting some tranquillisers to make me feel calm. Then BAM!!! I was suddenly on this roller coaster ride? Then a beautiful white bubbly room? Then something like a bouncy castle…. I don’t wanna sound like a junkie but I can’t say its a bad feeling LOL


Then I heard a woman’s voice. It’s Anna who’s doing the grafting. I know I’m waking up, but somehow I was calm. I said “I’m waking up” no one replied. Then I said 3x “Machwi juseyo!” (Give me sedation) then I’m back on the roller coaster. The next moment I woke up was when Dr. Park finishing the surgery. I heard him humming and I asked him what song it is. I forgot what he said. I asked if Daphne was there, someone grabbed my hand said Daphne is in a meeting and she’s Unji, another English translator. She held my hand till the end of the surgery. I can’t be more thankful for that.



I’m really surprised for the experience. I kinda like the feeling lol. The waking up part was not scary at all. The sedation Dream uses must be ‘special’. They give you nice Dreams haha. I woke up from the operation table, then they wheeled me down to the ward. I was very awake by then and started playing with my phone. In less than 30 mins, I was already on their limo heading back to hotel.



Again, first night was the worst. A straw would help when u drink water, but I left it at Dream. Blood kept dripping out from the gauze throughout the night.



THURSDAY – Woke up feeling a lot better, blood dried out but kind of clotting around the sutures. So I went back to Dream, they cleaned my wound with saline, took out the gauze. I don’t feel any discomfort at all by then. Slight runny nose so I have tissue with me at all times.



FRIDAY – I’m already going to the gym with light jogging and sit-ups. I’m wolverine! Lol. Swelling was minimal, only looked like I drank too much water the night before.



Week 2 – MONDAY: my recovery is extremely speedy. I went back to Dream on Mon because some white spots grew near my nose. Originally, they said they can only remove sutures on Wed. But after examination, they removed cast and all the outer sutures for me. I think the tip is defined, nostrils looking nice, the alar weir is nicely done, just slightly red, can barely see any scars (surprised). Nose tissue is still very stiff, the bridge between my eyes is a bit too high (I look like a swordfish lol) and I can feel the grafted fat when touching. But I already know about this from my research that it will go down in 2-3 weeks, Daphne also said the same thing. So will wait.


After that, I went to 365Mc to try my luck. After examination, 365mc also removed all my sutures. I think I’m really lucky, guess going to gym everyday helps. Both Hyelim and Daphne said the speed of my recovery is not normal.



Week 2 WEDNESDAY: Everything went well so I decided to leave on Wed. final checkup and removed all remaining sutures at Dream. Daphne is super sweet, she arranged car to send me to the airport.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/full-report-dream-365mc-april31-item-everm-banobagi.883379/
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dazzedandconfused
Review18 Aug 11-100
I had my surgery with Dream with Dr. Park. I had rhinooplasty and double eye lid and I’m happy with my rhionplasty and dissapointed with my double eye lid. He did the double embedded method, which I’m curious….is it the same as DST? does anyone know?
I went with DREAM because there reviews were great with little negativity and also because I live in the USA, I thought because they were partnered dr. kenneth kim would be able to work on my surgery if I wanted anything else done or if dr. park was off with his calculations with the embedded method. My nose came out great, but my left eye is much higher than my right eye, and I can barely see the right eye’s fold. I was informed from Kenneth kim that the fold was put lower because of the muscle weakness in my right eye, so if the crease was put higher, the fold would have ended up lower than it is. But then I asked dr. KK if it was able to be fixed, and he said yes. But then again, its only a mm or so, so is it worth it? And I told him YES! It doesn’t matter about the money, but I just want it fixed and he kept saying that he wants me to fly alllll the way back to korea from america to go with dr. park to save me costs. Well, I know that dr. kk only charges 1500 for his eye lid techniques. And on top of that, it would cost about 1700 for round trip tickets to korea, maybe more, not to mention the pain the richard simmons 24 hour flights there and back. I asked him why he doesn’t want to operate on me and just fix the problem, but he keeps saying that its because he wants to save me cost. Fine, but I thought they were partnered so I shouldn’t have to pay anything with him to fix this problem. Dr. Park did not measure both eyes, he only measured my left which came out great, but skipped my right which came out retarded. He then said that to wait 3 months because of healing, but I thought that with the suture technique the healing is much lower. I swear there is no more swelling. It looks exactly the same as it did before the operation, but now I have to use eye glue to make it look the way I want. Those 1 mm or so really makes a huge difference and dr. kk is being very much “con artist” like and telling me to wait, and that dr. park did a great job and that he would have set my crease lower on purpose and make it unsymmetrical. What kind of plastic surgeon purposfully makes the crease lower and makes your face un symmetrical?!?!?!?!
Eyeshttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/27115-double-eyelid-surgery-thread/?do=findComment&comment=14623554
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dazzedandconfused
Review18 Aug 11100
I had my surgery with Dream with Dr. Park. I had rhinooplasty and double eye lid and I’m happy with my rhionplasty and dissapointed with my double eye lid. He did the double embedded method, which I’m curious….is it the same as DST? does anyone know?
I went with DREAM because there reviews were great with little negativity and also because I live in the USA, I thought because they were partnered dr. kenneth kim would be able to work on my surgery if I wanted anything else done or if dr. park was off with his calculations with the embedded method. My nose came out great, but my left eye is much higher than my right eye, and I can barely see the right eye’s fold. I was informed from Kenneth kim that the fold was put lower because of the muscle weakness in my right eye, so if the crease was put higher, the fold would have ended up lower than it is. But then I asked dr. KK if it was able to be fixed, and he said yes. But then again, its only a mm or so, so is it worth it? And I told him YES! It doesn’t matter about the money, but I just want it fixed and he kept saying that he wants me to fly alllll the way back to korea from america to go with dr. park to save me costs. Well, I know that dr. kk only charges 1500 for his eye lid techniques. And on top of that, it would cost about 1700 for round trip tickets to korea, maybe more, not to mention the pain the richard simmons 24 hour flights there and back. I asked him why he doesn’t want to operate on me and just fix the problem, but he keeps saying that its because he wants to save me cost. Fine, but I thought they were partnered so I shouldn’t have to pay anything with him to fix this problem. Dr. Park did not measure both eyes, he only measured my left which came out great, but skipped my right which came out retarded. He then said that to wait 3 months because of healing, but I thought that with the suture technique the healing is much lower. I swear there is no more swelling. It looks exactly the same as it did before the operation, but now I have to use eye glue to make it look the way I want. Those 1 mm or so really makes a huge difference and dr. kk is being very much “con artist” like and telling me to wait, and that dr. park did a great job and that he would have set my crease lower on purpose and make it unsymmetrical. What kind of plastic surgeon purposfully makes the crease lower and makes your face un symmetrical?!?!?!?!
Nosehttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/27115-double-eyelid-surgery-thread/?do=findComment&comment=14623554
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dazzedandconfused
Review7 Jan 12100
I went to Dream Clinic and had dr. park do my double eye lids. I said I wanted “small crease” with an “infold” like others have said. He made the line with this pointer that he had. I didn’t take my time and rushed it and I regretted it for over 5 months until I recently got a revision (free and no cost). My right eye lid was lower than my left, and my left wasn’t really showing. It was lower than when I used double eye lid glue just like someone else mentioned on the soompi forum.
I did the non incisional method, and I’m pretty sure it was the double suture with twist technique. This technique has actually been out for some time, because they did a study and said that not one person mentioned loosing of the double eye lid from 10 years plus out of the thousands of procedures in japan. They did the study from the creator of this method. If some of my facts are incorrect, I’m sorry. I’m going off my memory. But I’m pretty sure most korean doctors use this method a lot, especially for celebrities because they don’t have much recovery time and need to be healed in the quickest time.
I found that this time around for my revision, the healing time was much quicker. Its been 9 days, and its really great now and hasn’t changed for a couple of days. I was a little disappointed though because my eyes heal fast, and the by the 4th day, my eyes were perfect! just the way I wanted, but I thought that the crease would lower. I went in for the final consultation with Dr. Park on day 5 and he said that the lowering of the crease will be minimal from this point on and to continue normal activity. Dr. Park took a lot more time this time around on getting the shape of my eyes, and he increase the crease by only 2 mm on each eye and on the outside of the crease.
Is it weird to say this, but I preferred my eyes when it was only day 4 and 5? They seemed more defined and bigger than now. I’m very grateful for my creases now because now you can see them, and it really does enhance my appearance.
I really believe dr. park is a great surgeon even though I had to go to a revision. The reason why I still consider him and recommend him is because he is well known in korea, knows quiet a bit of english (not perfect) and also, it was my fault for not being specific when he made the crease line in the consultation. The crease came out exactly how it looked when he did it, but I didn’t want to offend him so I just went with it. This time around, I flew all the way out for the east coast in america to get this done and asked him to show me the crease with both eyes this time, and we went through a couple of possible crease lines. I’m pretty confident even though its only been 9 days, that by 2 weeks in I’ll be totally healed. I was totally healed from the first procedure by week 2 as well the first time.
Dr. park and kenneth kim are associates. Dr. Kenneth kim is in LA and he learns and uses a lot of dr. park’s technique, but has his own as well. Because they are the same, I thought I could go to dr. kenneth kim if anything went wrong and get a revision, but dr. kenneth kim told me to go back to dr. park because he did it and would know better and also, he would have to charge but dr. park wouldn’t. Even though this time it was free, dr. park really took his time and was dedicated. I also caught him in the morning and was the first 9 a.m. appointment. Or at least I was one of the first. I think thats the key too, try and get in as early as possible while they are fresh and everything is in mind, and get a consultation right before surgery so the vision of the eye lid is fresh in their mind too. I think their attention goes lower later in the day (which I can’t blame them) but you may not get the best attention that you want.
Eyes, Aftercarehttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/27115-double-eyelid-surgery-thread/?do=findComment&comment=14839980
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dazzedandconfused
Review18 Jan 12-100
I stayed at nobless hotel, its good because its private and the receptionists are good with the clinics around there. That hotel I hear is actually good for two things, surgery and people who want one night stands, lol! But both are true actually. Thats what I heard at least.
I stayed at a hostel this time for my revision and actually, no one noticed that I got surgery. It was a revision only and it was still the non incisional method. But now its been about a month since the revision and I have to say, my right eye is still coming down lower. My left eye is fine, but when I pull my eye lids down, I can tell that my dr. didn’t put the right eye to the same crease level as my left. I think its because my eyes are shapped differently and I know the crease won’t look exactly the same, but I would rather have had it higher. And it sucks to say this, but only 1 mm higher and it would have made a huge difference. Oh well, I heard that it often takes 3 attempts to get your eyes exactly the way you want them. That was my second, I cant see my 3d being anytime soon. Its getting expensive, 2,000.00 for the second trip, not to mention getting gifts and going out and the revision was free, and then 4500 the first trip around for eyes and nose though, and not including airfare
Eyeshttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/27115-double-eyelid-surgery-thread/?do=findComment&comment=14855866
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DoloreslolitaReview9 Jul 14100
Hello all PFs, I am currently in Korea. I have been stalking around the forum but have not been posting much so please pardon me. My main purpose of this trip was to get my bulbous nose tip done and raise up the bridge area. I visited a number of clinics but there were mainly two clinics that left me a good and professional impression. I researched quite a lot and found that korea’s best nose doctors are dr park of dream and dr Kim of april31, so I am going to review the both below. Other clinics I visited don’t matter as I wanted a real nose specialist to have my nose done. 🙂

Dream clinic
Dream clinic has a really nice ambience and almost all its staffs have beautiful skin with no flaws(and I heard they have a good skin clinic too!). I saw that there were many Chinese patients(as well as a few locals) and it was quite a busy clinic. Waiting time was quite long. I waited almost an hour before I could see the consultant. My translator Daphne (who is wayy gorgeous) had been very kindly explaining things about dream to me while i wait. When it was my turn, the consultant showed me her before and after photos – she had done nose and cheekbones surgery. She looked quite different to me in a prettier way. However her nose was still bulbous to my liking and when I asked her if I needed vline she said I could. But that didn’t stop me from being interested in dream because of the closed rhinoplasty methods that I was keen in. Then I was brought out to the seating area and waited about 10 minutes before seeing dr park. I was brought upstairs at the operating theatre where dr park’s office was. Dr park is honestly quite friendly, when he talked to me he had just finished an operation but he still remained very keen in explaining what I needed. Dream has like four doctors who operate on noses and a few other who are specialists in their own areas. I then left dream and went to april31 after quite a long stay in dream

April 31
When I went to april31, there were quite a number of locals and Chinese. I was quite amazed when I entered the clinic and all the staffs at the reception stood up to welcome me. It was a warm welcome to be honest lol. I went to proceed with my translator Brian(who has an incredible sense of humor and genuinely helpful) and a consultant. The consultant has an amazingly pretty nose and she told me she had done hers at April 31. I heard that there were famous celebs who did their noses with Dr Kim but from what I see he does not like to advertise and brag about himself having done their noses. Humble man I would say. Additionally I was told that dr Kim makes noses that patients can do piggy noses afterwards (even though I wouldn’t dare to after my surgery). I researched well enough to know that local Koreans, especially those with post op nose problems eg contracture go to Dr Kim for revision and would never need another op. Back to the consultation with the consultant, she told me that I would not need other surgeries other than nose and she would not recommend me to go through additional and redundant surgeries. I felt that April 31 was honest with me in this and I felt that they weren’t out there to get my money for extra procedures. I consulted with Dr Kim and had a good gut feeling with him. I went back to talk to the consultant and Brian, and they showed me pictures of Dr Kim’s works and I was impressed, there were obvious changes to the nose in comparison to dream.

I went home afterwards to give a thought about these two clinics. I was quite in a dilemma tbh because I really liked both doctors. april31 is more expensive than Dream is. That was one of my considerations but I felt that what you pay is what you get (through a handful of past experiences lol). No doubt, dr park of dream is skilled I believe, but the changes are quite small. On the other hand, april31 has obvious changes in a good way. I mean, after all, you are paying money to see changes right? After few days of considering, I decided to go with my heart with April 31. I had my surgery yesterday which I will talk about in the next posts in detail. Oh and if you are coming to Korea, definitely check out the Gwangjang market it’s amazing!
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-first-ps-experience-with-april31.874385/
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eagle862Review20 Aug 16100
Hi Tinzy,
I am also planning on going in September for nose revision and magic epi also. Let me know if you would like to meet up during that time for consultations. I plan on going to Dream for the rhino revision and Teium for the magic epi.

Just some background is I did the epi along with DES and did not like the epi at all as I felt like it made my face look too sharp and older. Too much of the inner corner was showing. So in 2014 I had a reversal of the epicanthoplasty and I think it was a great job by the doctor but now my eyes look a bit too close and there may have been some overcorrection. I am probably just looking for a small amount of epi changes and I know what I want now. For the rhino I originally had silicone plus ear cartilage for the tip and had it taken out along with the tip grafts by Dr. Park at Dream via the closed method. It has been a while and I think I am ready now to consider doing a revision rhino.
Good luck with you decision making!
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-plastic-surgery-experience-thus-far.944601/#post-30547192
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EddieNGRumor24 December 17100
My friend has done nose at dream by dr.Park Yong Soo. And she’s happy with the result. By the way, Dr Seong in gng is good at nose.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/gng-plastic-surgery-hospital-reviews.959789/page-27#post-31913234
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EevaLeenaReview22 Apr 13100
Ooooops! Sorry guys noticed for a while but I am apparently very bad with names i mistook the name of my doctor and wrote the wrong name before :panic:
My Doctor of Dream was Dr. Kim Hyeon Seok, specialized in eye and nose surgery.
His email is hskim@e-dream.co.kr. Maybe they answer through this mail faster than on their general email: dream@e-dream.co.kr.

I am more than 2 months Post Op and I am loving my results. My results are not dramatic, after all i only did “minor” surgeries. Instead in my opinon I think the surgeries were done to compliment the already existing features, that is why my results look very natural as if I was born with it.…
Otherhttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/best-plastic-surgery-clinics-in-korea-read-1st-post-before-posting.780226/page-374#post-24463217
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EevaLeenaRumor22 Jan 13100
Wow Seoul Touch Up gave some really detailed response : thanks it’s really helpful! i am wondering what kind of service do they give? Translator service also or just recommendations and consultations?
yeah i also read that rib is more commonly used for revision cases than primary rhinoplasty. But i guess every implant has their own pro and cons ^__^

Yeah i agree with you. I also heard about the dr.park being specialized in closed rhinoplasty. It’s one of the reasons why i look foward meeting hin. This and i heard that the consultant is a popular image consultant for celebrities haha how cool is that? But yeah i am still being a bit wary, because of the many mixed reviews.

And yes i know what you mean about getting tempted to do additional surgeries! Actually almost every clinic i consulted per mail recommended me to do VLine and eye additionally to the nose. And it is tempting to do these procedures after seeing so many PS transformations. I guess it’s good i only have budget for nose and fat graft, so i do not get uselessly tempted 🙂

migo also has an english website: en.migochina.com
You can do consultation and reservation there. Yes i am hiring a translator.

I am coming from Switzerland 🙂 yeahh i am so happy i found myself a shopping buddy :p i went there last year too and came back with two full luggages.

I booked my accommodation for the first few days in Seoul trough airbnb. Her apartment with 3 rooms (i think) is located in chungdam area, which i didn’t know before booking. I forgot to ask the host where it is located =_= i was more interested in the price. the good thing, it is located near JYP building >\\\< might end up as a crazy stalker when i am finished shopping and consulting. The bad it is a bit far from dream clinic and other clinics to be honest. If you are interested and would like to join me anyway i will PM (i hope it works soon) you her Link. ?
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erichyungReview11 Aug 16-100
The question would be more of, what did he actually notice… He is a specialist in closed rhino and he simply gave up and said not much can be done when braun and the rest recommended me a whole bunch of procedures which I agreed with but at a disgusting price. Then I asked would open rhino be better for my case? He just said they are just preferential, with no real difference. The reason why many surgeons use open is because they are not skilled enough to shape tips well and accurately with closed. And the last thing is, you ladies may think that no one notices your columella scars but there are a few things that might be happening. 1. Unobservant friends. 2. Friends that notice but don’t know about rhinoplasty so they ignore it. 3. Friends that notice it but don’t say anything because it would be awkward.

Don’t you feel insecure whenever your makeup is off and the scar shows? Or when you lift your heads? I saw a video on YouTube about this girl who did rhino at ID and wow. I guess some people really don’t think much of their scars. I would consider it a botched job tbh
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/best-closed-rhinoplasty-surgeons-in-korea.949658/#post-30520760
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euroboyReview8 Mar 18100
Hi all,

Update:

I wanted to share some things with you, I just finished my non incisional DES at dream.

Consultations:

I had consultations planned with Dream, MVP, Regen and Teuimps for more than a month. I booked consultations and a slot for surgery the day after if possible, 3 out of 4 were.

One day before the consultation MVP and Regen wanted to reschedule, which was a negative experience for me.

First consultation was very good with Dream, the facility looked good, not small but not huge either. Looked clean and the consultant I was speaking to for months was really nice and informative. They advised non incisional and ptosis correction. I mentioned that I dont want it unless it is really necessary.

After meeting the doctor, he asked me what I want and expect. He showed me the low to medium creases and the result of ptosis correction and without ptosis correction. I told them I want a natural look, low to medium crease. If possible and wont affect loosening of the folds a slight parralel crease.

I honestly felt that I like the way it looks without ptosis better so that is what we went for.

My feeling was such a positive one, that I cancelled the others especially with two wanting to reschedule and Teuimps was the last on my list, which I also cancelled.

After that they told me the price and I told them I know I am getting a foreigner price and Ive received quotations from 3 others and they were the most expensive. I told them that I dont mind paying more than a local but give me a fair price.

I got a substantial discount.

Surgery time:

If you can please bring someone to care for you or just make you feel better, do it, I did it by myself. The sedation hurts and its just a bit scary but manageable.

I am recovering now, looks really good and happy with everything but its just day one.

I hope everyone that is going will have a successful surgery and will be happy with the results.
Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/heading-to-korea-for-double-eyelid-surgery-advice-needed.980071/page-2#post-32108307
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fantasyfaceRumor17 Nov 12100
nope…never. but dream seems popular on china forum ..maybe due to the advertising. My translator recommended dream as well. it seems like different forum has different “popular” clinics.

At purseforum, it’s mostly ID.
China forum its ID,dream, propose.
At naver community its k gangnam samsung, view ,CK plastic surgery and girinlife…

i am really damn confused now
Otherhttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/best-plastic-surgery-clinics-in-korea-read-1st-post-before-posting.780226/page-53#post-23317769
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FlytoseoulReview4 Jan 14100
101 plastic and dream medical are quite reputable and good among Koreans. Both dr paik of 101 and dr park of dream are very good with noses. I did mine at dream (primary) and it is looking very good .
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/best-revision-rhinoplasty-doctors-in-seoul-korea.827969/page-3#post-25957840
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FlytoseoulRumor21 Jul 13100
Hi, Jessie

I’m also considering clinics in korea. From the forum, JW seems to have the best reviews. My Korean friend recommends Dream. I’m considering rhinoplasty so these two are my choices now. I had a vacation in June and visited shimmian and dream. Didn’t get to see JW though. I saw the docs, dr Jung and dr park yang Soo. I have a good impression of dr park from dream. However, there aren’t many reviews of them online so I’m really not sure. Still deciding between dream and JW at this point.
Otherhttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-experience-with-id-factory-in-full-report-i-mean-id-hospital.812109/page-8#post-25022273
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freshstart26Review14 Apr 10100
hey everyone.
i’m about to go into surgery at Dream clinic in about an hour and half. and let me say, i am nervous, scared, but very excited. i had consultation appointments at apgujong clinic 9, dream surgery, and migo. i loved the staff and the doctor at clinic 9. However, i didn’t choose them and felt bad. they said i needed the muscle surgery etc. however, like other soompiers, going to dream clinic, they said i didn’t need the muscle surgery and would look weird. i have to agree with them. unless you have severe ptosis, don’t get this “muscle” surgery. i would have had to pay 2700 with a discount yikes! so then after we went to dream surgery. this was the consultation i was waiting for. the decor and staff seemed a bit less professional than clinic 9, however i wasn’t going to let this phase me. after talking with the consultant, she told me to get non incision but i pushed for incision because of others cases of it unfolding. afterwards i spoke with the doctor and he knew what i wanted: a medium tapered in/out fold. Also, i prefer the fold dream did for me than clinic 9. i felt so good with dream clinic after that that i paid the 100 deposit and didn’t even go to migo to have the consultation. also ive heard that migo is quite expensive and tell you to get everything done. so dream it is. i’m paying about 2000 which i know is expensive but i forgot to ask for the discount. 🙁 . also i decided not to get epicanthoplasty because for me, i think it would make me look weird. okay guys hopefully everything turns out well. today is d day!!
hey soopmiaskme: how are your eyes now. did it get noticeably smaller? i’m still scared the height he chose for me is little small but he should know what looks best right?
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hey guys, so i just got out of the surgery and am at the hotel now recuperating. here’s what happened for me:
first while i was waiting, they put on some numbing cream on my eyelids. i didn’t think it was doing the job but while he was marking up my eyes, i couldn’t feel anything. i didn’t even know he was doing it. after, i went into the surgery room and the nurses prepped me. i think they laughed at me because i didn’t know korea to speak to them. oh well. after, the doctor came in and started. those shots did sorta hurt. but it hurts for 3 seconds in each spot and then goes away. i thought i was getting three shots each but i swear it felt like he gave me 5 in each eye. but thats good because i didn’t feel a thing. that must be some potent shots because i can’t feel my forehead right now. my procedure only lasted 30 minutes!! and i’m fine with that because i don’t think i could have stayed in there for 3 hours like some others. after they put tape on my eyes and i put on my gear. i was scared to look in the mirror but i just looked taped up.
i really like the dream clinic, the doctor (he really knows what he is doing), and the staff. he didn’t chit chat with the nurses during the operation. just asked me to open and close numerous times. i’m a bit worried because i think my left eye is going to definitely swell a lot more. he worked on my left a lot longer. i don’t mind the tape, but i just can’t seem to really open or close my eyes. i’m scared i won’t be able to close my eyes to sleep. eeek! but i have total confidence in dr song. he was great. everytime i blink, there’s some pressure too. also i don’t have any nausea. im actually hungry from all the waiting and want to eat. also i have cramps which suck. and i feel like my eyes are so swollen that i can’t close them. 🙁
what i asked for: no epi, in/out fold a little bit bigger than medium crease. i really hope it turns out well. i’m anxious, excited, and glad that its finally over!!
Eyeshttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/27115-double-eyelid-surgery-thread/?do=findComment&comment=13120509
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freshstart26Review17 Apr 10100
hey soompiaskme:
okay cool thanks about the 3 months post op and not having to practice opening my eyes too much lol. i’m almost done with all the antibiotic pills yay! and i’m still icing several times a day. it really isn’t as bad as i thought. as long as i wear my glasses and hat, no one can see my eyes. although i’m starting to feel the staff at the hotel restaurant must think i’m some weirdo for wearing the same gear all the time. ahha. they can spot me a mile away. and i’m hoping for a semi medium crease after it swells. I’m thinking if it is a bit big, all i need to do is add some eyeliner and that should fix the problem. plus i love eyeliner so i wanted a thicker crease that can still be visible after its applied.
twiti
thanks! yeah i wanted to get some pics up because pics are always exciting. its what we look for on these forums mostly. at least for me. lol. the healing process so far is going pretty good i think. i thought i’d be more red and bruised but not.
i’m not too sure how “higH” my crease was. dr song did three folds on my eyelids: small, medium, and large. i couldn’t really understand what he was saying but i pointed out how much i wanted it to be bigger or smaller. he told me the large would look unnatural on me. but i was aggressive in saying i wanted a bigger crease for makeup purposes and such. he understood and said he would give me the biggest he could on my eye that would be “natural”. he is the best! so in the end we agreed on a crease between medium and large. I’m pretty sure if you wanted large or medium or in between he’ll show you what it is.
it really is stressful trying to figure out mm or how thick it is beforehand. so really what i did in the end was breathe and figure it out once you are in the office. because then he can show you, give you his opinion, and things are just overall more clear. so don’t stress now! 🙂
yeah i knew my mongolian wasn’t severe but it was there. but the distance between my eyes are fine the way they are. so i guess i’ll just wait and see. any q’s about epi, make sure you have a well informed surgeon who doesn’t try to tell you to get everything. everything will be fine.
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note:
what i asked for: no epi, incision, in/out fold a little bit bigger than medium crease.
clinic: dream surgery clinic | Dr. Song | apkujeong
website: http://www.dreamsurgery.co.kr/about/english/info.aspx
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freshstart26Review24 Jul 10100
hey everyone. its been nearly 3 months for my eyes. i did mine at dream clinic (dr songs office). thats cool tinipinki that we got it done at the same place! i didn’t even know there was another building for dream! i just knew i wanted the one with dr song! but so far ive been having fun trying with makeup and all that. double eyelids have definitely helped with feeling and looking more awake lol. but anyway just popping in to see how everyone else is doing. okay talk with ya guys later!
Eyeshttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/27115-double-eyelid-surgery-thread/?do=findComment&comment=13563765
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freshstart26Review2 Oct 10100
hey soompiers,
i believe its been 5 and half months! i can’t believe time has passed this much. but i decided to pop in and put up pics of my eyeballs so far.my eyes were uneven in the beginning (boo to that!) but overall i’ve come to like the way they turned out. i can now have fun with makeup! without relying on eye charms. they have really settled down and i sorta want them even bigger! lol. yeah i knew that would happen but all i remember during the consultation was “go the safe route and ask for the natural eyes. if you want them bigger you can do that later” lol. but okays, hope everyone’s search is fine and hope everyone gets what they want 🙂 and sorry i’ve been mia for forever.
*edited*
reminders: asked for incisional, no epi (yay!)
Eyeshttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/27115-double-eyelid-surgery-thread/?do=findComment&comment=13834707
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Gentle windReview8 Apr 15-100
My experience with DAPRS (or DA) and other clinics in Korea. I am sharing because I want to help others on their clinic search. I received helps from others, so it is my turn to share. I went to Korea during the low season, meaning there are not too much patients seeking surgery. Going during the low season is good because you have more time with your doctor. **This is my experience, please do not decide on your clinic just based on me. Please do a lot of research and make sure you like your doctor and post operation care.**

My goals:
1.To have a narrower face from the front view
2.Get rid of my mild double chin and improve my jaw line
3.Improve my profile
4.Reduce fat deposit under my eye and the tired lines
*I was hoping to do nose revision, but I didn?t do it yet. I might in the future.

Surgery I had during this trip: V-line, zygoma reduction, fat graft on forehead, fat repositioning under the eyes, and acculift for neck and jaw.

Clinics I went to on this trip: DAPRS, Girin, Braun, Dream, View, Unique, and Teuim (will not review, but I did not like the ?famous? eye doctor there. I do not know if he is famous, but he is known on purseforum). *Remember to read my experience for DAPRS because that is the clinic I chose.*

Girin: I came to this clinic just because I knew they have reasonable prices, but I do not know much about their two plastic surgeon?s skills. They are both plastic surgery specialists, however, I do not know which part of the body/face they specialize in. I also do not know about their average post operation results. I definitely did not like their waiting time. I made an appointment with them at 9:30 am and I came 15 minutes early, but they made me wait for 1 hour before they handed me the client information form to fill out. Then they made me wait for another 30 minutes before I saw the consultant, which lasted for about 10 minutes. Then I had to wait another hour to see the doctors. While I was waiting, many patients that came after me were served which made me angry. Also, I briefly talked to a western lady around 25 to 30 years old and she was sad about her face contour?s results. Although it seemed like she was only 1 week post operation. She said that Korean face contour does not fit with her because she is a westerner.

*Note: I do not remember much about my experience with their doctors.

Pros:
1.The two surgeons are plastic surgery specialist
2.They have reasonable prices from the beginning. This is the quote they gave me without bargaining:
V-line: 7 million = 7,000,000 won
Zygoma: 4.5 m = 4,500,000 won
Acculift: 2m
Fat removal (buccal): 1m
Chin implant: 1.5 m
Fat graft on forehead: 1m
Nose revision: 4 m
Fat repositioning: 2 m

Cons:
1.Waiting time was horrible, so I am not sure how they would treat me after surgery. Post operation care might be okay, since the English translator was nice to the western girl.
2.I do not know their results on patients I am connected to
3.I heard from a friend that she knew someone who did her nose at Girin and resulted with an uglier nose than before surgery. It was about 3 months post op and the tip looked more bulbous than before. My friends and I concluded that by the 3rd month, you definitely had enough time to decrease swelling, so the nose tip should not be bigger than before. Also, you may already tell that your tip improved just after surgery too.

Braun: I came here because I heard they were good at nose surgery and they might be good at other procedures too. I know one girl who did her nose there and it turned out high and straight. They use a 3D scan to figure out what nose height would fit you the best. That girl wanted around 2-3mm but they gave her 3.5 mm. When I came there, they told me to only choose the part of the face that I really wanted to consult about and I did not choose nose. After I talked to the face contour doctor, I felt pretty good about him but their prices were out of my goal price. However, after I consulted with other doctors from different clinics, I realized that the Braun?s face contouring doctor did not consider about the result of the face, but just cut as much as possible from the jaw which may look weird. They may have wanted to cut as much as possible because I told him that, but patients? opinion is not always the best, so doctors have to correct them.

*Note: From all the doctors I met, I do not remember everyone?s status, if they are plastic surgery (PS) specialist or not. So there might be PS specialists at Braun, but I do not remember.

Pros:
1.They seem to be good at nose
2.Their waiting time is good
3.The doctor I met was friendly

Cons:
1.Their noses tend to be high (if you like high nose then this is a pro, but not everyone can have high nose. For example, I cannot get a high nose because my skin is tight)
2.You need to bring your own English translator every time you go there (I brought my friend).
3.I am not sure about their face contour (fc) doctor?s skills
4.The fc doctor wanted to cut out (close to maximum) my jaw and they charged extra because my jaw and nerve allowed them to cut 1 mm more than the average patient
5.I wanted to lower the price by taking out the muscle reduction, but they say it is needed so I either do the jaw and muscle reduction or not do it at all
6.If they have a promotion, they will stick with that promotion and not lower the price anymore
7.According to doctor?s decision on how much to cut the jaw, the result of the fc surgery may not turn out nice
8.Prices before any bargaining or reduction:
V-line: 8.2 m
Zygoma reduction: 4.7 m
Muscle reduction revision (radio frequency): 3 m
Extra 1 mm shaving of angle: 1.5 m
Forehead fat graft: 3 m
Acculift: 1.5 m
*******Sorry: The price for each ones here may be wrong since they wrote in Korean and I do not remember what it translate to. The forehead and acculift might be the opposite.

Dream: I went to Dream (the main branch) in 2014 and didn?t do surgery with them. I decided to go back there again in 2015 and still didn?t decide to have surgery with them. What is the problem? I am not sure about their doctor?s skills and results on patients. My experience with the translator (westerner) this time was not good. She was rushing me everywhere and was trying to make me hurry and to stop talking to the doctors. The consultant also only recommend what surgery is really needed. The nose doctor was good, but does not give you the friendly feeling. He was worried about fixing my nose side bone because it may cause breathing problem. Other doctors did not worry about this. However, this doctor did not worry about my chances of getting an upturned nose if I raise my bridge and tip more. Nose doctor at Wannabe was worried and didn?t recommend me to heighten my nose. The face contour doctor, I did not had much impression from him, but he was okay to talk to.

Pros:
1.The nose doctor can do good close rhinoplasty if you really prefer that method. However, the result may be limited if you want dramatic results
2.Not sure, but they may use the minimal amount of anesthesia.
3.He was worried about me having breathing problem if I break my nose?s side bone and making it smaller.

Cons:
1.I was connected (friend?s of friend) with two girls who had their surgery at Dream and their nose were not that great
2.You may wake up during surgery because they use sedation for nose and the painful part may just be the insertion of implant.
3.These are the prices before bargaining:
Nose revision: 5.5 m
Angle: 7.5 m
Zygoma reduction: 7.5 m
Muscle reduction: Free because I am doing my facial bone surgery
Forehead fat graft: 2 m
Chin implant: 3.5 m
Acculift: 1.5 m
TCR (I think they mean fixing the fat bag under the eyes): 2.2 m

View: I did not really have an exact reason to come here. My friend wanted to come here, so I thought I would check them out. The waiting time was not bad. I met the face contouring doctor and the nose doctor. Sorry to say this, but I do not have much memory with the face contouring doctor. For the nose doctor, we talked so much and he answered many questions and was not annoyed. I asked detail questions about the procedures he will use. Though, I feel like he was lying a little bit. His experience is also okay, I think 5 years total and he worked around 2 years at View.

Pros:
1.The doctor was nice and answered all my questions

Cons:
1.The nose doctor is willing to fix what I tell him to fix, but he did not say that it would be better not to take out the tissue from between the tip and alar (To make the nose less bulbous). I think again and my nose is small for my face already, so doing alar, removing the tissue, and reducing the side bone are procedures that I should not do. However, I could do alar if I do not increase my nose height anymore.
2.The price was more on the expensive side before bargain:
Zygoma reduction and V-line: 15 m
Fat graft on forehead: 4 m
Nose revision (different from other clinics I mentioned. This includes bridge, tip, breaking side bone of nose and making it smaller, add a cartilage on each side of nose to hold the breathing pathway open. Maybe alar was included, don?t remember. They said the price would be 10 m even with just with bridge, tip, and maybe alar): 12 m
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-experience-with-daprs-or-da-and-other-clinics-in-korea.901515/
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Glitteronmysush
Review16 May 16-100
Hi all

Just posting here regarding my bad experience with Dream clinic in the Gangnam area .


Had a rhinoplasty here about 7 months ago , they doctor swapped on me at the last minute the entire process was rush rush me in and out.

I woke up a few times during surgery and remember some of the process , some nerves around my nose are damaged and my nose only looks slightly different and deffinatly not what I asked for .


The doctor they swapped me with was an unknown surgeon , I could not find any information on him at all .

Very in happy and would not recommend this clinic to anyone.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/plastic-surgery-clinics-in-korea-read-1st-post-before-posting.864175/page-174#post-30220590
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gongchaRumor26 Feb 16100
I’m looking into Cinderella and Dream. My friend did dolly style in Cinderella and the result was impressive. She did incision, epi and lateral. Dream also did a good job but on non-incisional one.. I’m 70% towards Cinderella because they have a lot of celebrities endorsers

Can anyone suggest more clinics that can do dolly eyes?
Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/double-eyelid-surgery-epi-lateral-master-thread.856874/page-67#post-29890015
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gongchaRumor3 May 16100
i got new information from local

1. opera eyes & nose (but with certain doctor i dont know his name)
2. shimmian nose (ONLY with head doctor)
3. wonjin anti aging (ONLY WITH park wonjin which will cost u ur life)
4. izien breast & facial contouring (only have 1 doctor for each don’t know their names)
5. dream non incisional (ONLY with Dr. Park DO NOT DO YOUR SURGERY AT NIGHT)
6. cheongdam u nose (i dont know dr name too. i think they only have 1 doctor but u have to like barbie nose)
7. mega eyes (dont know dr name but have to be with certain doctor too)
8. jyp but i dont know which surgery and which doctor

again this is just opinion from my PS freak korean friend. sorry i dont know details koz i guess koreans don’t talk about PS openly and in detailed manner.
Otherhttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/negative-clinic-experiences.873591/page-23#post-30170633
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happysoul123
Review10 June 16100
Thanks Gantz for your well wishes.

I’ve went to 6 clinics in total for my consultation. They are ruby, dream, baum, mvp, tlps, banobagi as mentioned in my previous post. There are actually quite a few reviews on banobagi, dream, mvp and tlps on tpf if you search abit. So I’ll just briefly share my experience here :biggrin:


Ruby: 4.5-5 million won (open primary rhino + alar base reduction + tiplasty using ear cartilage)

-It’s a one floor clinic with posh interior. The consultant who attended to me was quite friendly and not pushy at all. I waited for around 15-20 mins before i got to see the doctor and the actual consultation with the doctor lasted only 5-10 mins before the doctor had to rush off (probably to surgery or something). I didn’t really probe much as well because i didn’t really consider ruby seriously cause it’s more well-known for its double eyelids surgery. Just went ruby to accompany my friend who was interested in del surgery.


Dream: 3.5 million won (closed primary rhino + tiplasty using ear cartilage)

-As mentioned in many other reviews, dream has a clean and professional looking interior. I actually quite like the vibe given by dream. The consultant was very friendly as well. When i reached there, there’re a few people waiting but not crowded at all. I was brought to the consultant by the translator and after talking to the consultant who briefly introduced to me the areas that needed to be done as well as how it would be done, i was brought to Dr park after waiting for 5-10 mins. Dr park was very friendly and patient in explaining to me the procedure. He could speak english as well though not very fluent. I actually quite like the idea of a closed rhinoplasty cause there’d be less/no visible scarring and the price dream offered me was quite reasonable. However, in the end i did not choose dream because i felt that the width of my nose was quite big but Dr. park said he would not recommend alar base reduction.


Banobagi: 5.5-6.5 million won (open primary rhino + alar base reduction + tiplasty using ear cartilage)

-Banobagi was packed with people the moment i entered the clinic and i waited quite a while before getting attended to. The translator was super friendly though. Before seeing the doctor, the translator brought me to take some pictures and then i had a consultation with the consultant. After the consultation with the consultant, I was brought to see the doctor. The consultation with the doctor was kind of brief, probably cause they are really very busy. The doctor suggested me other procedures like fat grafting and chin filler/implant to be done together with my nose to improve my overall appeal.


Tlps: 5.5-6.5 million won (open primary rhino + alar base reduction + tiplasty using ear cartilage, septal cartilage and donor rib cartilage)

-I waited the longest at tlps, probably close to an hour before seeing the doctor. The doctor sounded really knowledge and was patient in explaining to me the details. However he suggested using donor rib cartilage on top of my ear cartilage and septal cartilage and was the only one who suggested that procedure. Personally i feel that I do not need so many cartilage even though my nose is pretty flat. Hence I did not choose tlps as well.


Mvp: 3.5-4 million won (open primary rhino + alar base reduction + tiplasty using ear cartilage and septal cartilage)

-The clinic is a one floor clinic. When I arrived, there’s a few customers. There was this lady with super nice nose but i do not know if she did it at mvp or just accompany her friend for consultation. haha. The consultation was super friendly and not pushy. I waited 30 mins before i got to see the doctor. The doctor sounded very knowledgeable as well but sounded a bit rush through the consultation. The price offered by Mvp was very reasonable as well. However, when I asked for BA pictures of similar cases like mine (bulbous wide nose), the consultant kept showing me pictures of revision cases and emphasized that if the doctor could do such a good job for revision nose, then primary rhinoplasty would definitely not be a problem. Without BA pictures, I do not know what to expect hence I did not choose Mvp also.


Baum: 3.38 million won (open primary rhino + alar base reduction + tiplasty using ear cartilage and septal cartilage)

-Baum is a clinic introduced by my friend and its actually quite new. It’s a one floor clinic as well, however the clinic is very clean and gave me a good vibe when i entered. The consultant was friendly as well. Before seeing the doctor, I had a CT scan and a consultation with the consultant. The consultant provided me with quite a lot of useful insights that the previous consultants did not tell me. She was quite honest as well and told me it is important to pick a doctor i trust. After consultation with the consultant, the doctor came to see me. He looks really young and i was doubtful about his skills at first. However, later when i asked the consultant, she told me Dr park was previously from braun and shimmian and had 13 years of experience. During the consultation, it was only me, my sister and Dr park because Dr park speaks really good english hence there’s no need for translator. He was very patient during the consultation and gave off the trustable vibe so in the end i decided to go with Baum. Baum also provided me with good aftercare (i supposed haha), like after my surgery i was given pumpkin porridge to eat before i leave the clinic. Whenever my medicine or bandage ran out, the consultants would always top it up for me without any additional charges. What reassured me is the fact that Dr park was the one who did my stitch removal as well as cotton bud removal (2 days after surgery). Personally i chose a doctor whom i trust and a clinic which gave me a good vibe. However, as i’m still in the midst of recovering, hence I would not give any recommendation to anyone.


Tlps and banobagi are both big clinics hence it explained the expensive prices. In terms of the vibes that the clinic and doctors gave me, personally i would rate them like this: Baum>Dream>Mvp>Tlps>Ruby>Banobagi. However, this is all based on my personal feelings and the consultations i had with them. Everyone would have different experiences hence you have to go for consultation to judge for yourself!

Cheers (:
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/clinic-recommendations-for-rhinoplasty-and-facial-contouring-please.941268/page-6#post-30320786
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heyitsjReview13 Oct 17-100
Hi archonei,

Yes, I had a consultation with Dream, before Regen. The doctor at Dream spent hardly any time with me and he didn’t really give me a lot of details. It was all very rushed. I have linked my first review below talking all about my counsultation experience with both Dream and Regen, and why I chose Regen. When are you thinking of having your surgery done?

https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/breast-augmentation-with-regen-consult.971882/
Breasts Augmentation
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/breast-augmentation-with-regen-one-month-post-op.973345/#post-31749603
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HiyaSunshine
Review22 Mar 17-100
Hi Everyone,

I am writing this so that hopefully you guys have a smoother experience than I do and don’t make the mistake of choosing Dream. I am beyond frustrated right now and hope that my experience will help those trying to decide whether they want to pursue surgery with Dream or not. Long story short, I placed a deposit two weeks ago and checked in with them at MANY different times to make sure the surgery date/time is right, and now, two days before surgery (and less than a day before my flight), I get a message saying the surgery time I asked for can’t be done. THIS HAS NOT ONLY HAPPENED TO ME. There’s another girl I read about on purseforum who paid the deposit, arrived for surgery at Dream, and was told they didn’t have her down for that day (feel free to link that story down below but I will try to find it after I write this)… Then magically a slot appeared for her (how does a surgery slot just magically appear? Is the doctor she asked for actually the one that did her surgery? It really makes you wonder). I also personally know someone who paid the deposit for a day, didn’t check in for a while, and then when she arrived, was told that surgery would have to be done the day after. Dream is extremely flaky, and I would highly recommend international travelers to stay away if they are there for only a short/moderate amount of time. I also have all messages saved on kakao for those who are interested in seeing just how extremely frustrating they are.

I contacted Dream one month before going to Korea for incisional des and was told that the price would be approximately 2.5 million krw (however, when I called, the consultant quoted a much higher price and said whoever answered me on kakao was wrong and told me to screenshot the price because she didn’t believe me LOL). I will not be there for very long, so I decided on going with Dream after talking to a few more clinics via kakao, and asked to book a surgery date between March 22-25 so that I can place a deposit. The person talking to me at kakao said to contact them two weeks before I come because one month is too early to make a deposit for a surgery date. I thought this was a little bit odd but just went with it. Fast forward 1.5 weeks later (so ~2.5 weeks before the date I would want the surgery), and I contacted them via kakao again and noted that it’s about 2 weeks before, so I can book the surgery right? Dream responded and said “sorry the earliest date we have is April but May is better.” WTF? I contacted you a month before and you said to contact you two weeks before, and now when it’s actually 2 weeks before you’re all booked? At this point, I just decided to call them. When I called, a consultant named Julia picked up and said: “We do have space the end of March. We have space on March 23 if you want to come in then! Just place a deposit and we can talk more on Kakao.” She also asked me who I was talking to on kakao because apparently all my messages with the previous person got deleted?? We talked a bit more on kakao and I went to sleep ready to place a deposit the next day.

The next day, I wanted to make sure I could get the 23rd date before placing a deposit, so I messaged them again to double check before wiring money, and the response I got was “oops there’s actually no time between 22-25 we can only do the 27th now.” Uh… Then like an hour later someone else responded “oh actually just kidding we do have 23.” I called again to make sure and sent a deposit with my receipt. I also noted that I could only do after 12 pm on Friday, and the consultant said “ok we will let you know a day or two before.” WTF? I paid a deposit, and gave you the time I could come, and now all of a sudden you can’t give me the time of my surgery until 1-2 days before? Anyway, I decided to trust them because they said that they will make sure I come in that afternoon for surgery and checked in with them on Tuesday the 21st (3 days before my surgery) and asked “do you have the exact time for me this Friday yet?” YOU KNOW WHAT RESPONSE I GET? “I am sorry the earliest we have is April.” LOL. Then a bit later, someone says “oh wait you made an appointment. As I’ve informed you, we’ll let you know 1-2 days before.” Ok. Sorry for asking 3 days before. But I’m flying in from the US… so I NEED to make sure the time is right. I then messaged them and said “I just want to confirm… for the third time… that it will have to be after 12 pm” Dream responded and said “yes we made a note that it’ll be after 12 pm.”

This morning I get a kakao message. “Sorry it can only be in the morning not after 12 pm.” At this point, I can’t deal with this anymore. I called MULTIPLE TIMES TO MAKE SURE and messaged three times to make sure my surgery time will be on the 23rd after 12 pm. I paid a deposit and started this back and forth a month before coming. Now, less than a day before I have to fly to Korea and two days before the surgery date, I all of a sudden get a message that I cannot have surgery after 12 pm, when I repeatedly checked in with them to make sure they remember that I CANT BE THERE THAT MORNING. Anyway, since obviously there’s some extreme disconnect, I’ve asked for my deposit back. Not sure why me checking in with them in calls and kakao messages to make sure my surgery date/time was right wasn’t enough (I made sure to check in many times because of the various stories on purseforum and elsewhere about Dream taking deposits and then not honoring the surgery date). Anyway, please avoid Dream. They do not honor surgery dates/times even with a deposit, and I really don’t think any of their doctors are worth the effort. I really don’t have much time in Korea, and all of a sudden they can’t give me that surgery time so I have to look elsewhere to schedule when I’m leaving the US in less than a day. If they couldn’t honor it, they should’ve at least said so so I can place a deposit elsewhere with a clinic that will give me the time and day I ask for. Now, I’m less than prepared and no longer have a surgery time. Out of all the clinics, Dream has been the LEAST professional and if they cannot get a surgery day correct and lie to you multiple times to your face, how do I know they won’t switch doctors or do some completely unprofessional and unethical things behind the scenes? Please avoid them at all costs and save your kakao message time and phone bills.
Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/awful-experience-with-dream-plastic-surgery-international-travelers-beware.962778/
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hohohalmoni
Review27 Feb 18100
Dream is mostly famous for Dr. Park’s closed rhinoplasty, but I would recommend Dr. Jeong, the open rhinoplasty specialist instead. I had my nose done with him and I’ve heard a lot of compliments after it. My original nose was very low, short, bulbous, and upturned, so he used a silicon implant to elevate the bridge, and combined lateral osteotomy, septal extension graft, and alar base reduction. Now it looks much more balanced and it doesn’t look piggy-like at all.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/where-to-go-for-rhinoplasty-dream-jw-or-gyalumhan.980836/#post-32080260
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hohohalmoni
Rumor12 Jan 18100
it depends on whether you’re looking for a natural or dramatic improvement. If you’re looking for a natural one, I would recommend Dream. My Korean friend had her double eyelids done with Dr. Park at Dream and they look super natural. I couldn’t tell until she told me lol.
Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/recommended-clinics-for-double-eyelid-surgery.977965/#post-31957999
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ilytopgdReview23 Dec 11100
Sharing my experiences with consultations 🙂 Hope you find it useful!
1. CJ Cosmetics
– Doctor doesnt recommend magic epi but favors a more natural crease. Invented his own method called “internal epi” that opens up the eye at 1/3 mark instead of opening up the inner corners to conserve the Asian eye/mongoloid fold.
– He spent alot of time explaining how patients from overseas that had gotten epi came to him to reverse it.
– One of the girls at the front desk sits inside the room with you while you consult with the doctor himself.
– Small clinic, nice service. 2 people were already waiting when I came.
– Consultation fee: 10,000 won
2. Teuim
– Friendly atmosphere, many people sitting in the waiting room. They have books where you can see their work in much detail, comments made by patients themselves.
– Doctor was professional and was clear at explaining what he was going to do to my eye. I don’t remember any specific details since it was about 1 month ago since the consultation, but he was one of my final choices for surgery. I felt a sense of reassurance when talking with him~
– No consultation fee.
3. Dream
– Really easy to find as its so close to the station.. It’s a very narrow building that’s hard to find from the outside cos it looks worn down but the inside is nice and clean.
– Consulted with a lady not the doctor which was weird.. though she knew what she was talking about and didn’t pressure me in any way to have surgery at Dream.
– I asked whether I could see the doctor who would be working on my eyes and she said if i really really wanted to I could book a time with the doctor or I could futher consult him before my surgery.
– I liked this place despite the pre-consultation.
4. BK Dong Yang
– I had high expectations for this place since it’s so highly rated and supposedly many celebs have gone there..
– The whole building belongs to BK and the inside is really nicely furnished and aesthetic.
– It was a walk in consultation so I had to wait a long time before I could consult the doctor. I first had a pre-consultation with a lady that was at first really nice. I told her the type of eye I wanted and she wrote it down. It was slightly awks since I wanted the opposite of the eyes she had (really obvious magic epi + massive eyes)
– After waiting agessss, I finally got to see the doc and omg… honestly I didnt like him at all. He seems to take getting double eyelids as a definite thing and goes on for ages and ages about things that are obvious. I previously stated to the lady that I wanted natural looking eyes so that I still looked like me after the surgery, just brighter. Nevertheless, he went on for ages about epi etc.
– I found it hard to get my thoughts through as he kept butting in to what I had to say or he didn’t agree. He told me I couldnt choose the eye shape I wanted (….wtf). It wasnt as if i was asking for anything hard. All I wanted was a natural crease…
– Afterwards, i had to consult the price with the same lady during the pre-consultation. All of a sudden she was really rude and unprofessional. Ugh
– No consultation fee.
5. OZ Clinic
– It was a one floor clinic thats really nicely decorated inside. There’s also nailpolish and lots of magazines to keep yourself occupied before your consultation. A few people were waiting already when I got there.
– The doctor was funny and reassuring. I really liked him and he also told me that he re-does your eyes for you if it is to come undone for free.
– If you want a natural looking crease, I recommend him (along with CJ)
– Reasonal price to those interested haha
– Fee : 5,000 won
6. Banobagi
– An aesthetic white building thats just as aethetic inside. Lots of people were waiting when I got there. There are magazines, books with their work, computers~
– When I met Dr. Park, we definitely connected haha. I told him the type eye I wanted and the type of eye I didnt want. He knew exactly what I was talking about and even went into the site of another clinic to show what I didn’t want LOL. He showed me pictures of what he’s done and it suited my needs. By then, I knew I wanted surgery with him 🙂 He’s professional, reliable and humorous too haha
– No consultation fee.
In the end, I went with Banobagi and it’s been over a week since I’ve gotten my eyes done. I love the end result! Though i must say, I dont think I can ever do plastic surgery again… I was rigid the whole time cos I was so scared hahaha
Eyeshttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/27115-double-eyelid-surgery-thread/?do=findComment&comment=14819932
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jessicabecga_stv
Rumor18 Jun 15100
I am planning to have a consultaiton and surgery at dream at the end of this year so I did some research. I am currently live in Korea for studying purpose and know many local Korean friend and ask them about their surgery experience. The one that actually did surgery at dream only say good things about Dream.
My friends said Korean know Dream plastic surgery as a girl generation’s clinic. Can you guess why!? My friends all confirmed that Dream never has any case of person dying or swapping doctors . They are very strict with patient safety and hygienic operating theatre, you can see many Dream patients talking about all the good things online in other forum as well. They never do swapping of doctors as each doctor has their own specialized field of operating. Dream is actually cleaner than most of other Koran clinic from what my Korean friend told me. While there are some clinic in gangnam that partying inside the surgery room, eating snack which I found unbearable after reading from other forum. There are many bad reviews and dead case at wonjin and grand but dream has clean record.I only can find good reviews about Dream that is why I am going for consultation there after all the mers thing get better.
Otherhttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/287106-plastic-surgery-in-korea/?do=findComment&comment=19031583
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jetsetter2mx
Rumor17 Oct 17100
Sorry this happened, I went to Dream 6 days ago and had no issues. I didn’t go to consult with any other clinics. My cousin is a flight attendant for Korean Air and all her colleagues and friends got their PS done at Dream with very natural results so I knew I was going to go there. Alot of Korean idols and celebs get it done here too although they wouldn’t advertise that.
Otherhttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/awful-experience-with-dream-plastic-surgery-international-travelers-beware.962778/page-2#post-31758856
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Jin91Review24 Jun 09100
Okayyyy. Here’s my experience. I just got mine done on the 15th.
So I got my eyes done at Dream Medical Center in Apgujong. First I had consultation with this lady. She wrote something things down and explained the basics of eye shapes that I could get. Then I waited and had a consultation with my doctor. They put some numbing cream on my eyes while I waited. My doctor was Song Ho Shik. I asked for a medium to more of a natural fold. I got something of an infold with a partial outfold. I was told it was nonincisional. He did three stitches or something and that would create the fold and it’d be very natural looking. Well, that’s what I understood from it because my Korean is very limited. After that, I waited about 5 minutes and then they asked me to go into the room where I’d have my surgery. I was kind of expecting to be half knocked out, but I was 100% awake for the surgery. That kind of freaked me out. From this thread, I read that I shouldn’t tense my eyes when they did the numbing shots. My mom said it felt somewhat like a pinch, but she was sooo wrong. The shots hurt a lot! He did 3 on my right eye. Oh yeah, and I asked about getting my inner corners cut. He said my eyes were already big (horizontally I guess), so I didn’t need to get them done. Instead he cut something inside of the inner corners of my eye or something. I didn’t really get it, but I just went with it. And so I didn’t really tense during the shots in my right eye, so that was good. Then he started to do whatever it is that they do. I couldn’t feel pain, but I could feel what he was doing. It was especially weird when he started to sew. I could kinda see him doing it, but I couldn’t feel a thing. When he was done, he started on my left eye. I knew the shots were coming, so I tensed. I couldn’t help it. It was painful. As a result, my left eye had more bruising while my right had had basically none. During the surgery, he asked me to open and close my eyes a couple of times. After I was done, I went downstairs to where my mom waited, popped on my sunglasses, and was good to go. They gave me this cooling gel pack to put on my eyes.
After 4 days, they took out the stitches. It felt like she (the nurse) was pinching or was cutting a bit of my skin (like.. the tiniest bit), but of course she wasn’t.
I took pictures periodically to check out how I was healing. I’ve uploaded it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/jin…progression.jpg
The 1st day after, my eyelids were swollen and my left eyelid was bruised. The red you see is just some dried blood.
About 1 week after, my eyes are a LOT less swollen and a lot of the bruising is gone.
9 days after, my eyes are getting less and less swollen. My eyelids are still puffy enough that people would be able to tell I’ve gotten the surgery done though.
hope this helps!
Eyeshttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/27115-double-eyelid-surgery-thread/?do=findComment&comment=11165938
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Jin91Review6 Jul 09100
^ I think that’s where I got mine done! I hope yours turns out well! I asked my mom about the food thing too and she didn’t say I had to avoid anything. I didn’t eat anything super greasy, but other than that, I ate what I wanted to. haha

update!
3 week pictures. (my eyes are kinda red because I just showered and washed my face). the swelling has gone down a LOT. My relatives said it looks really natural and that my eyes came out nicely. I’m really happy with the results so far. Maybe I’ll put up a makeup picture later. my mom says my eyes look huge when I put on make up, but she also said that you really can’t tell that I’ve done anything to my eyes at all if I wear some makeup.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/jin91/3weeksopen.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/jin…weeksclosed.jpg
Eyeshttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/27115-double-eyelid-surgery-thread/?do=findComment&comment=11292959
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K CoutureReview9 Dec 13-100
1) Dream Medical http://en.e-dream.co.kr/

My first stop was DREAM. Upon entering I noticed it looked like a fancy iphone store, very white, very clinical, very minimalist and very corporate looking. It was also filled with mainland chinese in there. They have 2 translators who are available on certain days for english speakers and everyday they have Chinese translators available. I’ve realized that the protocol in Seoul is that they will first send you to see the consultants, who will recommend you procedures based on what you want to achieve, what they offer and what they think you should get done. After that they will send you to see the surgeons. For me, whatever the consultants say goes in one ear and out the other because I am aware that their job is to sell you procedures and they have little to no medical training. Especially with my case since its rather complicated.

First surgeon I met was Dr Park Yang Soo, who specializes in Rhinoplasty. He is also the director at Dream. Very friendly, down to earth and informational. He may not speak perfect english, but he is fluent enough where we can communicate and understand each other. His solution for my rhinoplasty would be a closed procedure, removing what scar tissue i may have incurred from the previous revision open rhinoplasty and using an Ultra Soft Silicone implant which will then be placed underneath the muscle just above the bone. At this point I was rather surprised that he would do it through closed rhino as every other surgeon I have spoken to said I had to have open rhinoplasty. He explained that as I have already had one open rhino, another would risk causing further scarring to the nose and he had ample experience to perform the surgery.

Next I went to see Dr Kim Young-Joon, facial bone specialist at Dream. He looked at the 3d facial scan and CT they just did for me and immediately said, “you do not have wide protruding cheekbones so a cheekbone reduction is not advised. It will simple make you lose the angles in your face and cause sagging. One cheek bone look slightly bigger than the other because as this 3d scan shows, you have a very slight asymmetry.” He told me to fix this asymmetry there was a drastic option which pretty much involves breaking your face is half and reattaching it, but this was only for patients with very severe asymmetry and not for me. The other method would be to use acculift. A minimally invasive laser which will shrink my soft tissue from the inside of my face. He explained it as an “internal shrink wrap” to the face. Now this made sense to me as my asymmetry was only made obvious from all the other crap I had done to my face which I didnt really need. From looking at the 3d scan i could tell it had nothing to do with having one cheekbone that is wider than the other.

Last Surgeon I went to see at Dream was Dr Cho Hye In. She is the eye specialist. A very young doctor, not too chatty, speaks softly and didn’t explain much to me. I said I wanted a lateral Canthoplaty to make my eyes look bigger from the bottom edge. She uses a medical object against my lower eye lid, pulled it down slightly and held up a mirror. “You want it to look like this?”. I said yes and she said there would be scarring and swelling for a few months but she could do it.

What I liked about Dream?

a) Very professional and customer centric atmosphere.

b) Whilst waiting for the surgeons to meet me I sat next to a couple who was waiting for their post op check up. This 65 year old grand mother who looked like she was in her mid 30s was only a week post op and I couldn’t see any scarring and minimal swelling. Very impressed.

c) Park Yang Soo and Kim Young Joon explained the procedures to me in detail, were thorough with communication and patient with my many questions. I also LOVE IT when a surgeon tells you not to get a procedure because they feel it would not be suitable for you. Patient satisfaction and care > Profit.

What did i not like about Dream?

a) Dr Cho Hye In did not make me feel comfortable letting her potentially operate on me. She was not too detailed in her explanations either.

b) Consultant who wasn’t very knowledgable…but thats kinda to be expected.

2) Next stop VIP! http://www.beauty-korea.com/

So this clinic is alot smaller and less luxurious than Dream, but it was still aesthetically pleasing. If im correct there is only one surgeon there too, Dr Lee Myung Ju. Which isn’t a problem as long as he is skilled in the procedures he offers. His consultant who doubled up as the translator was present during the consultation. She spoke fluent English and my god was she knowledgable. The first consultant I have ever encountered who could explain the procedures involved in such detail. She also wasn’t trying to sell me any surgeries at all but rather focusing on the problem at hand.

Dr Lee began by asking me what was in my nose. I told him diced cartilage, scalp tissue and goretex underneath. He was shocked when I told him there was goretex in there too…..but its a very common reaction since Charles Lee of Beverly Hills is an awful surgeon. He then used a camera to look into my nose and told me I had a deviated septum which had to be corrected too by using cartilage to build the shape. He said an open procedure is the only method possible for me using rib cartilage. I asked if I could use donor cartilage and he said the reabsorption rate is too high for that to be feasible. The invasive nature of rib harvesting and knowing the cons of using cartilage left me uncomfortable with having my nose done with him despite reassurance of his skill from both himself and his consultant.

I also asked him about a cheekbone reduction and lateral canthoplasty. You see one thing I always do is try to compare the answers different surgeons will give you regarding a procedure and method in order to make an informed decision. He said he could do cheekbone reduction on me but not during the same time as the cartilage rib rhino for safety reasons. He admitted there is always some form of sagging during a cheekbone reduction and explained it like this. “your cheek bones are like the structures of a tent, only they are holding up facial fat, soft tissue and skin. When you reduce them naturally there will be some sagging. The degree depends on the method and skill of the surgeon.” What he said is very true as I’ve had several top surgeons advise me against cheekbone reduction for that very reason.

Lastly we discussed a lateral canthoplasty. He told me that procedure has a high failure rate with the current methods used and causes visible scarring. He also said long term effects are not promising as when we age our eyes naturally start to sag. He further articulated that he has seen many patients who have botched lateral cathos and end up getting revision surgeries over and over again with little success. This made me think twice about the lateral canthoplasty.

What I liked about VIP?

a) very thorough and knowledgable english speaking consultant. Not to mention fluent in English

b) detailed explanations from the surgeon. Tho he had to leave early because of a scheduled surgery, his consultant was sufficient in aiding me with whatever further questions i may have had.

c) Advised me against potentially unsuitable procedures. Always good to learn of different opinions and the logics behind it.

What I did not like about VIP?
a) not really their fault but i do wish there were alternatives to the rib rhino in my case.

b) Dr Lee said a 3d scan when unnecessary when i asked him about cheekbone reductions. After that insightful consultation at Dream, i would say a 3d facial scan is a MUST.

c) Dr Lee wanted to correct my deviated septum and said my nose will always be lopsided because of it. However, I actually asked other surgeons during my consultations in seoul and even went back to Dream once more the day before I left Seoul and spoke to Dr Park about this. They all said that you only need to correct a deviated septum if you have breathing problems. Its unnecessary to correct it otherwise as there are people with perfectly straight noses with deviated septums. Its very common. I also recalled reading of him saying the same thing to other people on this forum who also felt they didnt need to correct their septum.
Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-recent-consultations-in-seoul-and-surgical-experiences.846812/#post-25821617
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K CoutureReview9 Dec 13100
1) Dream Medical http://en.e-dream.co.kr/

My first stop was DREAM. Upon entering I noticed it looked like a fancy iphone store, very white, very clinical, very minimalist and very corporate looking. It was also filled with mainland chinese in there. They have 2 translators who are available on certain days for english speakers and everyday they have Chinese translators available. I’ve realized that the protocol in Seoul is that they will first send you to see the consultants, who will recommend you procedures based on what you want to achieve, what they offer and what they think you should get done. After that they will send you to see the surgeons. For me, whatever the consultants say goes in one ear and out the other because I am aware that their job is to sell you procedures and they have little to no medical training. Especially with my case since its rather complicated.

First surgeon I met was Dr Park Yang Soo, who specializes in Rhinoplasty. He is also the director at Dream. Very friendly, down to earth and informational. He may not speak perfect english, but he is fluent enough where we can communicate and understand each other. His solution for my rhinoplasty would be a closed procedure, removing what scar tissue i may have incurred from the previous revision open rhinoplasty and using an Ultra Soft Silicone implant which will then be placed underneath the muscle just above the bone. At this point I was rather surprised that he would do it through closed rhino as every other surgeon I have spoken to said I had to have open rhinoplasty. He explained that as I have already had one open rhino, another would risk causing further scarring to the nose and he had ample experience to perform the surgery.

Next I went to see Dr Kim Young-Joon, facial bone specialist at Dream. He looked at the 3d facial scan and CT they just did for me and immediately said, “you do not have wide protruding cheekbones so a cheekbone reduction is not advised. It will simple make you lose the angles in your face and cause sagging. One cheek bone look slightly bigger than the other because as this 3d scan shows, you have a very slight asymmetry.” He told me to fix this asymmetry there was a drastic option which pretty much involves breaking your face is half and reattaching it, but this was only for patients with very severe asymmetry and not for me. The other method would be to use acculift. A minimally invasive laser which will shrink my soft tissue from the inside of my face. He explained it as an “internal shrink wrap” to the face. Now this made sense to me as my asymmetry was only made obvious from all the other crap I had done to my face which I didnt really need. From looking at the 3d scan i could tell it had nothing to do with having one cheekbone that is wider than the other.

Last Surgeon I went to see at Dream was Dr Cho Hye In. She is the eye specialist. A very young doctor, not too chatty, speaks softly and didn’t explain much to me. I said I wanted a lateral Canthoplaty to make my eyes look bigger from the bottom edge. She uses a medical object against my lower eye lid, pulled it down slightly and held up a mirror. “You want it to look like this?”. I said yes and she said there would be scarring and swelling for a few months but she could do it.

What I liked about Dream?

a) Very professional and customer centric atmosphere.

b) Whilst waiting for the surgeons to meet me I sat next to a couple who was waiting for their post op check up. This 65 year old grand mother who looked like she was in her mid 30s was only a week post op and I couldn’t see any scarring and minimal swelling. Very impressed.

c) Park Yang Soo and Kim Young Joon explained the procedures to me in detail, were thorough with communication and patient with my many questions. I also LOVE IT when a surgeon tells you not to get a procedure because they feel it would not be suitable for you. Patient satisfaction and care > Profit.

What did i not like about Dream?

a) Dr Cho Hye In did not make me feel comfortable letting her potentially operate on me. She was not too detailed in her explanations either.

b) Consultant who wasn’t very knowledgable…but thats kinda to be expected.

2) Next stop VIP! http://www.beauty-korea.com/

So this clinic is alot smaller and less luxurious than Dream, but it was still aesthetically pleasing. If im correct there is only one surgeon there too, Dr Lee Myung Ju. Which isn’t a problem as long as he is skilled in the procedures he offers. His consultant who doubled up as the translator was present during the consultation. She spoke fluent English and my god was she knowledgable. The first consultant I have ever encountered who could explain the procedures involved in such detail. She also wasn’t trying to sell me any surgeries at all but rather focusing on the problem at hand.

Dr Lee began by asking me what was in my nose. I told him diced cartilage, scalp tissue and goretex underneath. He was shocked when I told him there was goretex in there too…..but its a very common reaction since Charles Lee of Beverly Hills is an awful surgeon. He then used a camera to look into my nose and told me I had a deviated septum which had to be corrected too by using cartilage to build the shape. He said an open procedure is the only method possible for me using rib cartilage. I asked if I could use donor cartilage and he said the reabsorption rate is too high for that to be feasible. The invasive nature of rib harvesting and knowing the cons of using cartilage left me uncomfortable with having my nose done with him despite reassurance of his skill from both himself and his consultant.

I also asked him about a cheekbone reduction and lateral canthoplasty. You see one thing I always do is try to compare the answers different surgeons will give you regarding a procedure and method in order to make an informed decision. He said he could do cheekbone reduction on me but not during the same time as the cartilage rib rhino for safety reasons. He admitted there is always some form of sagging during a cheekbone reduction and explained it like this. “your cheek bones are like the structures of a tent, only they are holding up facial fat, soft tissue and skin. When you reduce them naturally there will be some sagging. The degree depends on the method and skill of the surgeon.” What he said is very true as I’ve had several top surgeons advise me against cheekbone reduction for that very reason.

Lastly we discussed a lateral canthoplasty. He told me that procedure has a high failure rate with the current methods used and causes visible scarring. He also said long term effects are not promising as when we age our eyes naturally start to sag. He further articulated that he has seen many patients who have botched lateral cathos and end up getting revision surgeries over and over again with little success. This made me think twice about the lateral canthoplasty.

What I liked about VIP?

a) very thorough and knowledgable english speaking consultant. Not to mention fluent in English

b) detailed explanations from the surgeon. Tho he had to leave early because of a scheduled surgery, his consultant was sufficient in aiding me with whatever further questions i may have had.

c) Advised me against potentially unsuitable procedures. Always good to learn of different opinions and the logics behind it.

What I did not like about VIP?
a) not really their fault but i do wish there were alternatives to the rib rhino in my case.

b) Dr Lee said a 3d scan when unnecessary when i asked him about cheekbone reductions. After that insightful consultation at Dream, i would say a 3d facial scan is a MUST.

c) Dr Lee wanted to correct my deviated septum and said my nose will always be lopsided because of it. However, I actually asked other surgeons during my consultations in seoul and even went back to Dream once more the day before I left Seoul and spoke to Dr Park about this. They all said that you only need to correct a deviated septum if you have breathing problems. Its unnecessary to correct it otherwise as there are people with perfectly straight noses with deviated septums. Its very common. I also recalled reading of him saying the same thing to other people on this forum who also felt they didnt need to correct their septum.
Nose, Facial Contouring
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-recent-consultations-in-seoul-and-surgical-experiences.846812/#post-25821617
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K CoutureReview7 May 14100
i just had my rhino done at dream. I was actually chatting to the surgeon while he was doing it. As i predicted, my skin is very very thin and my periosteum is damaged and the ****ing goretex stuck to the scar tissue so he had to excise that to get it out and we couldn’t use the scar tissue to protect the skin from the silicone. And the auto dermis was too fit for my nose structure. So plan B failed miserably. He tried the 4.5mm silicone too big for my previously damaged thin skin from the last rhino. So he ended up using 3.5mm with a layer of donor scalp tissue. My case is very complicated so i commend him for doing his best. At the moment I am feeling a tightness along the area where i had skin damage from the previous surgery, a sensation which i had never felt before during my previous 2 rhinos so i am concerned. I do hope this is an effect due to the anesthesia wearing off………ill update you guys tomorrow morning. I requested Dr Park to see me in the morning to remove the cast to check to make sure there is no risk of extrusion. Fingers crossed….At this point only thing i can tell is that his tipplasty done through closed rhino was spot on and very accurate and symmetrical.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-3.731363/page-312#post-26716656
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K CoutureReview13 May 14100
Dr Kim is their facial contouring specialist. Does the acculift and all the bone manipulation surgery. He is the sort of surgeon who will advise against a procedure for you if he feels you are not suitable for it. After looking at my 3d ct scan, he told me that in my case i couldn’t do a cheekbone reduction as my issue wasn’t protruding bone but soft tissue. Hence why he suggeste i get acculift instead to alleviate my problem of asymmetry. Should i have gone to any of the other surgeons i consulted with who didn’t bother to put my well being first i would have ended up with facial sagging.

At this point in time i cannot comment on my acculift results as i am still really swollen as all the swelling from my forehead fat graft and nose has all shifted in the cheek area so i look like a beach ball. I’ll update after the 2 week mark as thats when more than 60% of swelling will have dissipated
Facial Contouring
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-plastic-surgery-with-dream-medical-group.867732/#post-26747755
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K CoutureReview13 May 14100
I know Dr Park’s speciality is eyes and nose. But i cannot comment on any first hand experience as i only had rhinoplasty and fat graft with him. He is very honest when he analyses his patients tho. My first time meeting him i wanted a lateral cantho to make my eyes bigger cos the concentric malar lift made my eyes a bit slanty. He examined my eyes are strictly advised against it as he could tell that previously i had incisions through my lower eyelids, thus weakening the muscles. So if i were to get a lateral cantho the red of my eyes may show as a permanent side effect.
Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-plastic-surgery-with-dream-medical-group.867732/#post-26747559
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K CoutureReview13 May 14100
Last year at the end of October I had made a trip to seoul and had multiple consultations to different clinics. I eventually, after meticulous comparison of proposed methodologies and seeking multiple opinions from respectable plastic surgeons I decided on Dr Park Yang Soo and Dr Kim Young Joon at Dream Medical Group for my procedures.

5 days ago i had undergone my 2nd revision rhinoplasty, forehead fat graft and acculift. Dr Kim performed my acculift while Dr Park did the fat graft and revision. And I have to say other than Bryan Mendelson 2008’s president of the ISAPS, I have never had so much respect for the skill of a plastic surgeon as I have with Dr Park. This man fixed my botched nose through the use of closed rhino, a technique very few surgeons are capable of pulling off through the closed technique. This technique is far less invasive, has no risk of weakening the elasticity of the collumela and also alleviates risk of scarring both externally and more importantly internally. Internal scarring can cause your alars to be lopsided.

Day of Surgery:

The schedule was as follows: a) Final consultation with Dr Park and Dr Kim at 9.30am b)discuss final surgical price with the consultant and c)get prepped for surgery at 1pm

As far as surgical methodology goes, the main concern for me was my rhino revision. This was going to be my 2nd revision, 3rd rhinoplasty. My nose had been severely damaged by Charles Lee of Beverly Hills, who used a mix of diced ear cartilage and goretex for my nose. I had asymmetry, bumps, a hump nose and cartilage extrusion which caused visible thinning of the skin tissue. The method I agreed upon with Dr Park was using ultra soft silicone placed above the bone and under the periosteum to protect my weakened nose skin from extrusion and prevent and potential deviation. I had mentioned to Dr Park that after speaking to Dr Mendelson, I was concerned that my periosteum might be too damaged to protect my nose from potential complications. So Dr Park’s plan B was to use auto dermis should my periosteum be too damaged. He would also use the existng scar tissue in the bridge to protect the implant.

While Dr Park and Dr Kim are both fluent in English, not all of the other staff (nurses etc) were. Hence I had the in house translator Daphane, a lovely singaporean lady shadow me throughout my every move in the clinic. She really made the entire experience more comforting. I highly recommend anyone who is a native english speaker requesting daphane as your translator during your activities at the clinic. She is super helpful accommodating my every diva request. I even asked to borrow one of their humidifiers to bring back to my hotel and they let me lol

Last thing to do before surgery was discusss price with the consultant. Her name is Mi Yeong Lee and she gave me a nice discount. Initially she already gave me a discount but i felt that i could negotiate a better deal as I was able to recommend alot of people to her, thus increasing her commission in terms of quantity. Basically i told her (with Daphane as my translator) that being a surgical junkie, i know alot of other surgical junkies too lol. And under the caveat of having satisfactory post op results, i would not only recommend my friends to her i would also write a glowing review for the clinic should she agree to give me a better price. She also promised to give my friends a better price too when they come in for their surgery. So that was my bargaining strategy and I actually kept my end of the deal. I am happy with my results hence why im writing this review. Tho to be honest if i weren’t happy i would still write a review…a flaming one that is lol

During Surgery:

So i decided to use Sedation + Local Anesthesia seeing as it is less stressful on your body. It was the best decision i ever made and ill explain why in a moment.

First up was the acculift performed by Dr Kim. A minute after he walked into the room the sedation was administered through my iv and i immediatedly felt like i was having the most amazing trip. It was as if i was on a fun relaxing amusement park ride. Then moments later my vision came back and i noticed Dr Kim doing the acculift. This took only 20 mins. Once i was done the nurses took me to the toilet for me to relief myself. I actually took an extra 5 mins updating my facebook about how my swelling made me look like id been face bashed lol….After that we went back to the OR where nurses laid me down while we waited for Dr Park to come in. Daphane had been watching by me this whole time while i got the acculift :biggrin:

Next procedure was the fat graft to the forehead. Now i barely remembered much during this part. I was reallly out of it and by the time i regained consciousness again the procedure was done.

Final procedure was the revision rhino. This part was surreal. I was actually fully awake albeit a little sleepy. I could even see Dr Park performing the procedure on my nose. I could hear him removing the cartilage and the goretex and was actually speaking to him during the procedure. We were even cracking jokes from time to time. I was trying my best not to do the “are we done yet?”(even tho i did…) while he was concentrating. Anyway we actually encountered some difficulty during the rhinoplasty but Dr Park discussed it with me DURING THE OPERATION. The conversation went like this…

Dr Park: Your periosteum is damaged. Your skin is too weak for the 4.5mm implant you chose. I need to use the 3.5mm one.

Me: Should we try using our backup plan? The auto dermis?

Dr Park: I tried that, it doesn’t fit your nose. Your scar tissue also had to be excised because it grew into the goretex so we cannot use that to protect the ultra soft silicone either. But don’t worry I can use fascia to protect your skin.

Me: The fascia from my diced cartilage graft you just removed? Because I don’t want you to harvest any from my scalp.

Dr Park: No the fascia from your diced cartilaged is damaged and cannot be used. Since you don’t want to harvest fascia I will use donor fascia from Germany. Its really strong, also very expensive, do you want to pay for it? (jokes)

Me: No thanks, but put it in anyway lol (we both laughed)

Dr Park: So we cannot use the cartilage we removed from your previous surgery, I will use donor cartilage for the collumela and dermis graft to project and protect your tip.

Me: Am I bleeding alot? Because i was told by previous surgeons who did my nose that im a bleeder

Dr Park: No if surgeon is skilled you won’t bleed much.

Me: I have a friend from Hong Kong who said a handsome surgeon did her nose

Dr Park: Oh, must not have been me (laughs)

After he was done he handed me the mirror. I could already tell that it was really well done. Then he placed the cast on my nose with a light packing only for the incision in my nostril. So it was not the one that goes down your throat. I actually had a blocked nose so i ended up removing it myself 4 hours after the surgery.

That evening I opted to stay in the ward for an additional 150 000 won. I always believe the first night is the more crucial and the highest likelihood for something to go wrong. Also it really eases your mental state knowing u have professional care. Oh and i forgot to mention that i was actually sick with a sorethroat and cold during the surgery. For some odd reason when i ended up back at the ward all my symptoms had disappeared :S????

2 hours after lying in the ward I start to notice an odd sensation at the top part of my bridge. That is the part where i had extrusion from the cartilage. I’ve had 2 previous nose jobs and never felt this sensation before so I immediatedly started to panick as i thought the silicone is going to extrude. I contacted Daphane who arranged for Dr Park to come see me the moment his last surgery was done. 30 mins later Dr Park showed up, removed the cast to reveal a deep bruise in the damaged area on my nose. He explained that the reason for the odd sensations ive been feeling is due to how damaged the skin was by the previous surgeon. Then Dr Park examined the area and told me that there was good circulation going on so there’s nothing to worry. But just to ease my worry he will check up on me in the morning once more before I leave the ward. To my surprise, the next morning the brusing had actually disappeared and there was just redness now.

Post op Day 1:
so swollen i look like id been bashed

Post op Day 2:
so swollen i look like id been bashed. But this time i noticed 2 slight dents in my forehead above the brow. So panick mode again, i contact Daphane and sent her pics. She showed them to Dr Park who said that ive been having too much muscle movement that is dispersing the fat cells. He told me to come back the next day to get some botox to solve the problem. No extra charge :biggrin:

Post op Day 3:
Swelling Peaked I looked like id been bashed over and over again

Post op Day 4:
Swelling finally started to go down. I bought a fashionable black surgical mask (ninja much? :p) and walked around a little with it. The dent was also less visible

Post op Day 5:
Went back to Dream to get all but the stitch in the nose removed. Saw Dr Park for our final post op check up. They provide me with a complimentary Healing Lite II laser to speed up deswelling and to help ensure the fat cells are evenly distributed. I was also given a nose retainer (didn’t know there was such a thing) to wear for 3 months while i sleep. I asked him that since we could not use my periosteum or scar tissue to hold the implant, what would protect it from deviation. He said the top of the implant was placed into a pocket in the area between my brows to stop any movement. Well so far im still too swollen to go out without my black fashion surgical mask. Nose is more swollen on the right side since the closed rhino was performed from the right nostril.

Tomorrow Im scheduled to meet Dr Kim for our post op check up. Updates then!
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nope that’s not it. 603-2, Shinsa-dong, Seoul, South Korea maybe google map that. Its at the end of the street where JW and VIP is.

Anyways Plastique Update

I went in and got my stitches removed. Didn’t hurt much. Saw Dr Kim who wasn’t too chatty. I asked him about the lower part of my face looking a bit full and was worried it was sagging from soft tissue because of the acculift. He said it was swelling moving downwards, which makes sense. I imagine i will only see changes at the 2 week mark. Was also gonna ask him a few other questions but i kinda had a bit of a mental blank. He gave me some botox for my jaw (did u guys know that korean botox is half the price of normal botox and is pretty much the same effect??!?) and walked out right after so i didn’t get the chance to ask him more paranoid questions. He’s friendly but not as chatty as Dr Park i’ve found. Oh well as long as i get good results. Will update in 2 weeks (if i can remember to) about the acculift’s results.
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K CoutureReview17 May 14100
the forehead graft is good. no more dent. Not as full as i’d like it to be now that swelling has gone down but thats reallly solely on me since i told Dr Park i wanted a subtle augmentation on the sides only to match the middle of my forehead. Which he did but now i want more volume lol. Oh well next top up i guess.

Nose is looking reallly good but im not pass the safe zone yet because as i mentioned, my nose was severely damaged by Charles Lee and Dr Park did his best to try to protect my damaged skin. There’s still some tightness, mild redness and slight bruising where the damaged skin is so i need to wait it out to see if there is any chance of extrusion. It depends on how well the donor fascia is able to protect my damaged skin by growing onto the damaged skin. So now its a waiting game. Im probably going to head to see Dr Mendelson now that im back in melbourne to have him assess my situation since he is the next best thing to Dr Park.
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K CoutureReview22 May 14100
another update! bruising on the damaged area of my nose looks better. Does this mean the donor graft worked? yay hope so!

I love my forehead but will prolly top up even if i dont have to cos i wanna be greedier and get more volume.

And the acculift…..well today i noticed my sensory nerves having started coming back on the right cheek where more fat was removed and the changes are more noticable. So that means swelling has gone down yet again. My sister who i haven’t seen since i got back to australia who didnt know what surgery i had gotten actually said my face is sharper with a fuller forehead. So yay SUCCESS SO FAR.

Will need to wait for 6 months at least to know whether the acculift tightening is due to temporary swelling or whether its as permanent as some surgeons suggest
Nose, Fat Graft, Liposuction
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K CoutureReview29 May 14100
UPDATE!

The Monday that just went by, i went to see Bryan Mendelson in Melbourne just to get him to examine the nose revision that Dr Park did for me because i still have residual brusing near the top part of the bridge. This was because in my case Dr Park had to use a thigh tissue graft to repair my nose due to the damage caused by the surgeon before him.

Good news, Dr Mendelson said Dr Park did exactly as he should and that infection and extrusion is very unlikely. But to monitor for another week and he took some photos and prescribed me anti biotics . It seems that the immediate concern is rarely extrusion but inflammation, hence the anti biotics. After looking at my before picture Dr Mendelson also mentioned that it took alot of skill and experience to have such good maneuver via closed rhino which most surgeons would require open rhin o to do. Also Dr Mendelson didn’t charge me at all for coming to see him about a surgery he didn’t perform. I HEART YOU DR MENDELSON URE TOO GOOD TO ME LOL

The other thing is to mention is that my fat graft to the forehead has left me with little small bumpy pimples. Did this happen to anyone else who have had the fat graft to the forehead? I read on real self that a lady had experienced this too. And when i asked Dr Mendelson he said this is common??? because the skin is under stress from the tightening due to the new volume? Either way he said its not permanent so i dont need to worry but im so tempted to used skin acid treatments which he told me its best not to 🙁 im not even allowed to use make up yet QQ
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-plastic-surgery-with-dream-medical-group.867732/page-5#post-26832067
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K CoutureReview14 Jun 14100
my first rhino was closed. Great aesthetic results but i had too much discomfort cos the thai surgeon at Yanhee used a dodgey jagged implant cut from a block of raw silicone

my 2nd was diced cartilage open rhino with charles lee of beverly hills. atrociously done and damaged my skin.

my 3rd was closed rhino ultra soft silicone and donor fascia for bridge. Dermis and donor ear cartilage for tip with park yang soo at dream. extremely well done.

Its actually fine going in a 2nd time via open rhino if you still have good elasticity and have a longer collumela. Although there is no point in doing so if closed can yield the same results. But that all depends on your individual case and u will only know after a surgeon who specializes in the closed method examines you. For example, if you read a very recent posting on this thread, a forum member got recommended the open method by dr park because he said her structure will not yield that good results with the closed method. So yeah it all depends on your original nose really. In my case i could get similar results through the closed method and avoid any further risk of internal scarring and damage to my nose via open rhino. Because as it is, my collumela was now shorter from the open rhino and its positioning is also in line with my nostrils, rather than lower down in comparison to my nostrils. An open would risk further shortening so it wasn’t a good option.

I think you don’t need to worry for now tho just go consult different surgeons and you will be able to make a sound decision. 🙂

Also you mentioned you had tipplasty before and want a more defined tip. Umm i would be very precise with the surgeon when asking realistically how much definition you are able to get. Too often asians go in expecting to get a very defined tip not realizing their expectations are not realistic because if your original nose is bulbous or even somewhat bulbous, despite excising fatty tissue, it will still be a mild improvement. Just not possible to get the definition to your tip that caucasians or asians with naturally thinner skin unless you excise enough tissue to the point where the implant can place pressure on the skin. That is something no good surgeon would risk. I’ll give you a good example of how fragile our tip area is. When Dr Park did my tipplasty, he used a piece of donor dermis to further protect my tip from the ultra soft silicone. Now the extrusion and damage to my nose from Charles Lee was at the top of my bridge not the tip. The skin around my tip was perfectly healthy. Yet , as an extra precaution the auto dermis was used as a barrier to protect the skin from any pressure because that area is more fragile. My skin type is thick btw, but my tip is not bulbous.
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K CoutureReview28 Jun 14100
i love my acculift results. It really target areas with too much fat and soft tissue and reduces volumes. And under a skilled surgeon symmetry can be achieved. Minmally invasive too. The only thing that is too early to tell is the potential sagging. Acculift apparently has a tightening effect which korean surgeons swear by. However western surgeons suggest its temporary due to swellling and the heat from the laser. I thin whether this tightening effect is permanent ill need to wait for least 6 months down the track to find out. Because ive had some facial lipo before and first 3 months it was still swollen and looked so good then after that it started to sag :S

I never used it for my lower jaw line. My jaw line is already defined from the concentric malar lift.
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K CoutureReview29 June 14100
my results are great. Im still in healing mode because i have a tissue graft inside my nose which is growing into the damaged skin to protect it. My first rhino was closed. 2nd rhino was open method and as a result of this surgery i had extrusion from my own harvest cartilage. Dr Park fixed my nose using the close method.
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K CoutureReview30 Jun 14100
yeh its not swollen anymore. I love the results but i dont know how long it will last. I had the procedure on may 7th. So far i have had minimal resorption of the fat. Fingers crossed it remains that way. It had been suggested that the majority of people require a 2nd fat graft to get the volume they want. And after 3 months you can generally expect what remains to be permanent. im not at the mark yet but will update on how much is left.
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K CoutureReview21 Jul 14100
Oh and btw update on those who are interested in acculift. This procedure is absolutely amazing. Tho results take a while to show up the fat is melted it takes some time for the body to flush it out the residue as waste matter. I’m nearly at the 3 month mark and while i don’t notice any tightening effect, its ability to reduce volume and sculpt the face is undeniable. My face is now so incredibly defined and angular. Reduction of fatty tissue has also made my cheekbones so much sharper which is the high fashion look i was going for.

Now as for the supposed tightening effect, i feel im not a good candidate to gauge this factor as I’ve had a concentric malar lift. What this means is most likely, any sagging that may normally occur would be counteracted by the concentric malar lift as it is holding all my soft tissue in place. Likewise, any tightening that may occur is also not visible due to the concentric malar lift.
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K CoutureReview8 Sep 14100
oh god Charles Lee was a nightmare. The worst thing about it was I actually read the awful reviews of him, but then lied to myself and said it can’t be true because he was on the Tyra Banks show so he must be good.

Anyways ill answer your previous question in a somewhat generalized manner because my opinion is biased. Regardless of what surgery you are doing, first thing you need to ensure is that the surgeon specializes in the procedure. So for me I know Dr Park specializes in rhinoplasty, eyes and fg. While I have had great results from him, without knowing your situation and requirements, I can only recommend as far as a consultation with him, despite being confident in his skill. Because if for whatever reason you are unfortunate enough to have a complicated case requiring a rib rhino, I would advise going to another surgeon as rib rhino is not part of his speciality. He is most famous for performing the closed technique while yielding similar results to that of a well done open technique. But not for rib rhino techniques. Another clinic i woul recommend you look into for nose would be April 31.

For Jaw Dr Kim at dream is very reputable. But i have not done any bone work with him, just acculift. The good thing i can say is he did a good job on my acculift and he is very thorough in his examinations. If he says you are not a candidate for jaw reduction then you should not do it. That procedure has a guaranteed sagging effect and i always recommend people against it unless absolutely necessary. I had it done when i was younger and have had to have an invasive concentric malar lift to reverse the sagging effect. So i would caution you on that. For most people something as simple as botox is sufficient to narrow the jaw. Also note that the jaw reduction does not actually make your jaw more narrow. It changes shape, not width, UNLESS part of the muscles are removed. But this is something you want to avoid as it poses long term side effects especially when you get older. The muscles are also surrounded by motor nerves so there’s also risk of permanent motor nerve damage. Something you definitely want to avoid. For these reasons, many surgeons will refrain from excising the muscle.

Chin i actually don’t know who in Seoul is good at it. I never inquired about it nor do I know any surgeon who is an expert in it. Brian Mendelson in melbourne was the one who did my chin but you should only go to him if you want to use the hydroxyappatite as your choice of implant. It truly is an amazing material that can be molded according to the patient’s bone structure. Perhaps its only limitation is that because so few surgeons know how to use it, if for whatever reason you want to remove it, you will have to go all the way back to Australia for him to perform it.

Also with doctor swapping, you should ask the surgeon if they operate as a teaching facility, if there are any interns at the clinic and who will be present during the procedure. This, they are legally obligated to disclose to the patient.

In regards to surgical combinations. You can really do them in whatever order you choose. But i would avoid doing nose and jaw together if the nose is done via open rhino. Jaw reduction is considered a major surgery and the only surgery where i’ve had as much difficulty healing is the concentric malar lift and my open rhino. Most people will tell you its a terrible experience healing from open rhino. In contrast closed is an absolute breeze. I also would not do jaw and fg at the same time. I have zero experience with breast augmentation so i can’t help you there sorry.
Nose, Liposuction, Fat Graft
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K CoutureReview11 Sep 14100
my silicone nose looks completely natural i have to say so i can’t fathom how much more natural this method can make it look. But i imagine this one may feel more natural tho. Hrm i think the reason why fascia is not required (and its better because harvesting fascia was a bit icky when i experienced it. I had these staples to my scalp :S) is because the fat is used to fuse the diced cartilage into place. Have you seen what happens to fat when left out? It turns into this tough sticky sludgey substance.

recovery for ear is super easy breezy. No dramas there at all. Only thing you will notice is, compared to the side of the ear that hasn’t been harvested, it has less pressure when you push it backwards. My tip when done by charles lee had barely any flexibility. My tip when done my Dr Park has maybe 50% flexibility? By that i mean i can do a partial piggy nose. Its because Dr Park doesn’t actually place the silicone implant too close to the tip zone, but rather a good distance away. Then the projection he creates at the tip along with the augmentation from the bridge creates a minor gap between both points of your nose. Hence you have the height, the projection and the flexibility. That’s what he did for my rhino using ultra soft silicone. I’m not sure if you were to use the fat + diced how the flexbility will be for you tho
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K CoutureReview22 Oct 14100
no the eyebags were repositioned internally from inside the lower lid so no scars or stitches. LOL yeh she mentioned the roller coaster ride too. I always thought i’m the only one who hallucinates the same thing but it seems everyone else does too. It literally feels like you are slowly going up and down a roller coaster….do i sound like a druggie if i admit i enjoy it? lol

Yeah so today I had ulthera for soft tissue tightening and lifting, fraxel for minimizing my pores and two tone laser with carbon applicant to extract the blackheads. They use a topical anesthesia which numbs your while face so you feel barely any pain. Oh and i also had a hydrating facial (not the injections)

I was told that ulthera hurts but actually, no pain just minimal discomfort. It feels like wave lengths vibrating through your tissues. You can also tell them to focus more on your problem area(s). You guys should note tho that expect to feel a bitt more discomfort at the jaw line region. I think the skin is thinner there and has more nerve endings hence the elevated sensations. Oh there’s also a ulthera and thermage combo they use but I didn’t use that as I wanted to try out one procedure at a time, and I had fraxel right after.

Fraxel was hurt a bit at times when used on cheeks but that’s because i stupidly told them to use it without anesthesia as they didn’t realize i wanted it on that area too and wiped off the topical after the nose was done.

I was considering the hydrating injections because those of us who have met Unji at the clinic know how her skin has a natural glow. But she advised me there may be a slight downtime of 5 or so from the injections depending on how your skin reacts. And I have to be in Hong Kong for an event in a few days so I can’t risk it.
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Actually just an update. So now its just over 6 months since my revision rhino, which means its pretty much at its final state after all residual swelling has dissipated and what not. I never thought my nose would actually change but it did! My friend pointed out to me that my nose no longer has that ski dip shape which koreans love so much. Those who have been following this thread would have read that I initially asked for a straight nose but ended up with a ski dip nose. This I really didn’t mind because it was still really well done and most importantly, Dr Park had fixed my bumpy humped and extruded nose. Anyways as I got over the psycho-analysing my face everyday phase, I didn’t realize that over time my nose had become dead straight, which was exactly what I wanted.

So i was trying to figure out how it actually morphed into its current shape. This is my logic. As Dr Park said there will be resorption of the irradiated ear cartilage and auto dermis in my tip and collumela but I would not lose outward projection but rather volume and density in the implants. I believe that after this resorption had taken place, along with residual swelling dissipating, the tip went down very slightly which changed the angles in my nose to now make it straight rather than the ski dip shape it was before. So likewise, I am assuming that for individuals who want the permanent ski dip shape, the method may be to increase the upward projection and size of cartilage implanted into the tip and collumela to take into account resorption.
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K CoutureReview7 Dec 14100
noooo not instantaneous. I swelled for around 2 weeks before looking normal. But the procedure itself took 10 mins. It was performed using a fine fiber wire with the laser thing. It has some suction but the real reason why acculift is effective is that it actually melts the fat rather than suck it all out. Over the course of 2 months or so I noticed my face contour itself as my body flushed out the dead fats on its own. Its basically a gradual but noticable improvement.
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K CoutureReview18 Jan 15100
no I retained like i think between 50-60 percent? Its been 9 months since my fat graft so im definitely due for a top up real soon. I would have retained more fat graft if i hadn’t smoked tho. I definitely noticed the moment i started again my forehead shrank 🙁 But lucky I had stopped 3 months before and after the procedure so I didn’t lose as much as other smokers
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K CoutureReview20 February 15100
hrmmm I have read of cases like that before on the forums, where the tip loses its projection from resorption. Problem with using cartilage, be it autologous or irradiated is the resorption rate is unpredictable and varies according to the patient’s body. One way of getting around this is very mild overprojection while predicting the minimal resorption rate for a patient.

My tip is currently outfitted with irradiated ear cartilage and a small piece of auto dermis. When I asked Dr park about resorption regarding irradiated grafts he said I would lose volume and density but not height. Im 9 months post op now. So far my tip projection has gone down a little but nothing significant. It was a bit hard but flexible initially but now its soft. That would be mostly from swelling having dissipated and partially from very mild resorption.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-plastic-surgery-with-dream-medical-group.867732/page-37#post-28111980
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K CoutureReview19 Mar 15100
Anyways I figure that I’m now 10 days post op I can start commenting on my most recent set of surgical procedures. My main concerns this time was simply to get my fresh fat graft top up over and done with and address the issue that is my nasolabial folds. Granted my folds were not significantly deep but a friend said that those folds made me look my older which prompted me to inquire about a Macs Lift.

As always I consulted with several clinics, amongst them were Girin, The Line and Dream. The surgeons at these 3 clinics in particular were not too receptive to me having a Macs Lift as they felt it was too unnecessary for my age and would limit the results for my future lift at an older age. In the end I went with Dr Cho/Jo at Dream. He is the head of anti aging and I have no clue how to actually spell his name LOL. I’ve read it spelt as Jo and Cho so i guess both are applicable??? By the way he is apparently known as the Oppa Surgeon according to some of his patients LOL…. Anyways, a few reasons why I selected him:

a) He really gave me a long detailed consult with 3 treatment options. Citing the invasiveness to yield ratio. Smas lift (4 hours under GA), Macs lift (2.2.5 hours under Deep Sedation) and Omega Lift (45min-1hour under Twilight Sedation). I eventually went with his 3rd treatment option, which was Omega lift plus acculift and E-laser for volume reduction.

b) As a previous patient they gave me a very competitive price. It also really helped that I was aware of their pricing strategy :p

c) I can get away with being an uber diva to the lovely staff there (more on this later lol….)

d) Convenience. I had a free fresh top up at Dream and didn’t want to undergo surgery twice in one trip.

e) Back in October 2013 when I went to various consultations in Seoul to find a surgeon to fix my extruded nose, I met one of his patients in the waiting room at Dream. 65 year old grandmother who looked like she was in her mid/late 30s. From what I recall she was only around a week or so post op and barely swollen.

However my NUMBER ONE reason was because I wanted my lift performed by pulling the tissues to sides rather than vertically to avoid any slanting after-effect to my lower lid. I felt that by performing a lift in this manner would mean a potential side effect of the widening of my nostrils. Hence, to address this issue, I requested for Dr Park (who performed an amazing reconstructive rhinoplasty for me last year in May) to come in after Dr Jo/Cho was finished with his Omega lift, to do another tipplasty on me. The logic here is that by further projecting my nose, it would act as a preventative measure to negate any nostril widening from the lift. (Some of you may recall me mentioning that in many cases alar reductions is not necessary as ample tip projection would be sufficient in narrowing the nostrils) The rhinoplasty was very simple, Dr Park just added a shield graft and alloderm in the collumela and it only took 30 mins to perform.

Oh and in case any of you are wondering, an Omega Lift is basically a fancy name for a thread lift. Same as The Line. They refer to their thread lifts as a Ten Lift. Lol the glorification of thread lifts haha…Anyways I’ll just do a sequential breakdown like in my first review:

Consultation Day:

I always make it a point to request my entire team before I even arrive. That means I must select my surgeons, my consultant and my client service representative. I asked for Dr Park, Dr Jo, Ms Lee as my consultant and Daphne as my client service rep. However the day of my consult Ms Lee wasn’t working so I had Daphne as my consultant! She got promoted and this was good for me because I could bargain well with her. I mean…..last time when she was my customer service rep I forced her to let me bring the humifier in the ward back home amongst other things :p.

For my customer rep I had Unji assigned to me. She shared with me her suggestion that I’d be better off being conservative and doing the least invasive option (omega lift). Oh and Dr Jo also requested to do my fat graft top up instead of Dr Park who did it the first time around. I was a bit apprehensive at first but the logic was that since Dr Jo was performing my lift, acculift and e-laser, it would be more functional for him to also be the one to decide which areas of fg administration would be most strategic right after the first 3 procedures.

Surgery Day:

So day of surgery I did one final consult with both Dr Park and Dr Jo. Dr Park’s was quick and easy, we just did a brief run through as I was aware of the methodology he would use. Dr Jo on the other hand….MY GOD HE WAS SO DETAILED. He stated that my face was asymmetrical so he would modify the angle of the lift from one side to the other. Never in my life have I ever had anyone draw on my face so much haha. He was using a ruler, drawing 3 sets of lines on each cheek and encircling unwanted pockets of fat. He also identified the points where he wanted to place my fat graft:

1) Upper side region of Forehead for slightly more dimension
2) Small amount in Nasofolds to fill the crease
3) Small amount at left jaw to fill a dent caused by over-resection from my mandible reduction 10 years ago.

By the way while I was so happy at how meticulous and detailed he was, I felt like an absolute moron walking through the patients in the waiting room with my face full of lines and circles and shapes :S

Prepping for the Operation

Ok now by this point I was used to the surgical process. However it was winter and extremely dry in Seoul. My skin gets so itchy when its dry! Pretty much the nurses had to strap me down, disinfect and sterilize me. This made me SO MUCH ITCHIER so I kept breaking free to scratch myself. And each time I scratched myself I would get the biggest death stare from the nurse who just kept sterilizing me over and over again :S Unfortunately for Unji my diva-antics ended up with her becoming my personal scratcher. I was pretty much bound to the operating table with my dearest Unji scratching me with a cotton bud:

Unji: Is it here that’s itchy?
Me: No but ure close….little more to the left…
Unji: Here?
Me: little higher up….THERE WE GO
Me: Unji put some muscle into it
Me: Seriously I’m not feeling it JUST JAB ME ALREADY! USE THE POINTY END!
Me: Oh Unji you are so sweet I must blog about this so everyone knows how sweet and caring you care :biggrin:
Unji: Umm?.please don?t?..I don?t want everyone to make me their personal scratcher &#61516;

During the Operation

The moment I saw Dr Jo enter the room we exchanged hellos and then the anesthesiologist sedated me. Ok I dunno what happened to me this time but i was experiencing a different kind of high from the sedation. First time around it was a bright yellow rollercoaster high. This time it was a questioning my existence and appreciating korean architecture high lol. Plus I puked. But I can’t remember whether I puked between Dr Jo and Dr Park’s surgery or after Dr Park’s surgery. I also recalled saying some really dumb things while I was sedated. Oh and as usual I knew when Dr Park entered the room because even tho I couldn’t see clearly, I could hear his humming. This was probably because I was really out of it but I swear it sounded like he was humming beyonce’s “All ma single ladies, All ma single ladiess”.

Immediatedly Post Op


I woke up with Unji next to me. She was being lovely as always and adjusted the room temperature and humifier strength to my liking. Daphne came in later to make sure I was ok because she heard I threw up. AWWWW how sweet :smile:. When I got back home I took a selfie and noticed a dent in my forehead. Naturally I sent it to Daphne and she showed it to Dr Jo who suggested this was temporary due to the swelling creating uneven planes on my forehead. This is also evident in the fact that he didn’t administer the graft to the entire forehead, but rather to strategic points in order to achieve a dimensional effect.
Fat Graft, Liftshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-plastic-surgery-with-dream-medical-group.867732/page-39#post-28256013
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K CoutureReview19 Mar 15100
Post Op Day 1:

My dent was gone. Barely swollen…..very odddd

Post Op Day 2:

Barely swollen but expecting swelling to get worse which it didn’t

Post Op Day 3

Going through a WTF moment where my swelling never peaked. I somehow attained Davin’s level of wolverine healing without actually putting the effort into being health freak :p Granted I was swollen but it was so mild. It just looked like I had facepalmed myself 20 times over whilst drunk. I didn’t require my black ninja facemask this time at all….tho I was still wearing it when I went out.

Day 10 Post Op


At this very moment, my face is still a little tight from the lift. I cannot be too expressive because there’s some discomfort when I laugh. Hence it was a bad idea to watch the Real Housewives whilst recovering….Really pleased with my results. I have the ability to see through swelling, and this is because I’ve done so much surgery before that I can more or less predict what my final results will look like. I was always confident with Dr Park but a unsure of Dr Jo only because I have never had surgery performed by him before. However I must say he did an excellent job from the pre op consultations to the post op check up. He was always detailed and asked for my opinion regarding my aesthetic preference. He even tried to accomodate me when I demanded my lift to be done horizontally, an unconventional practice. The compromised was that we would meet half way through and manipulate the tissues at an angle to which we were both satisfied.

Despite having more swelling on the right cheek, my sagging is gone. My folds are barely visible and my nose is even more projected than before. My right nostril is a tiny bit wider but that’s because the incision for my closed tipplasty was done through the right. Dr Jo’s fat graft was also done very welll. My forehead is very shapely and my lower left jaw is more symmetrical now too. For this lot of surgery my final results should be evident around 3 months down the track. Dr Jo explained that the threads, during the 3 month dissolving period, will boost collagen and further tighten the face. As I have yet to experience this phase I won’t be commenting until I have reached the 3 month mark.
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K CoutureReview31 May 15100
i did carbon laser, fraxel and ulthera there. Its good but more on the pricey side. I’m not one to be price conscious at all when it comes to actual surgery because I believe my face and body is priceless, but not so much for generic skin treatments.

If you want a cheaper alternative, maybe not as smancy as Dream but still good u can try Oracle. Its in that alley way next to Dream walking towards the starbucks. I got laser hair for full legs plus (not telling where else) for just under 100. Compared to what they charge in Australia thats a really good price.
Skin Treatmenthttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/good-skin-clinics-in-korea.823861/page-19#post-28638808
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K CoutureReview1 Jul 15100
It sounds to be like your implant placement technique was not adequate if not this would not occur under normal circumstance.

My nose revision was done at Dream and done perfectly. I previously had extrusion from a full autologous rhinoplasty done in Los Angeles by Charles Lee, where the cartilage had tore and pushed out of my upper bridge. So you can imagine my tissue was very thin and much thinner than yours. As part of my consultation with Dr Park, we came up with 3 plans of treatment.

Plan a) ultra soft silicone placed under the periostiem. irradiated rib cartilage for the tip. Should my periostiem be damaged from the previous surgery we would then use scar tissue to seal and protect the implant.

Plan b) should my tissues be far too weak for the ultra soft silicone we would then use auto dermis as the replacement.

Plan c) this is what ended up happening. The ultra soft silicone i picked was too high for my thin skin to sustain and my periostiem was damaged. Auto dermis was also not a good fit for my nose. Hence the final method was discussed while i was awake on the operating table, feeling no pain and being walked through each step while dr park was working on my nose:

2.5mm Ultra soft silicone shielded and held down by scar tissue
0.5mm Tuto Fascia graft above the silicone and scar tissue to seal the hole from extrusion and grow into my damaged tissue. Thus protecting and strengthening it.
Irradiated rib strut in tip with a small piece of auto dermis in front of it to protect the tip tissue.
Shield Graft for added protection made with my own harvested ear cartilage
alloderm in collumela to lengthen the nose to reach the 3 point ratio.

Mine is considered reconstructive surgery as you can imagine how complex it is. If your tissues is really as thin as you say, then you should consider the use of tuto fascia to strengthen it like I did. The only side effect of tuto fascia is that it can, at irregular intervals increase blood circulation in the area and make the nose a little red. This comes and goes temporarily until the 6 months mark. It can also easily be covered with a thin layer of make up.

I was offered to try autologous dermis from Dr Park too. However he advised me that the resorption is unpredictable and depends on the patient’s body. Plus i didn’t want anything cuts to my booty region lol especially since I am very prone to keloids on the body. So i opted out of that method.

So anyways I hope sharing my method helps you consider what can be done for your situation. I wrote a review about what occured during my surgery if u want more detail. http://forum.purseblog.com/asian-plastic-surgery-and-cosmetic-procedures/my-plastic-surgery-with-dream-medical-group-867732.html

good luck on your revision
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-3.731363/page-405#post-28796793
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K CoutureReview21 Jul 15100
ehhh someone died at wonjin…..

when i did my mandible i was swollen for many many months haha. Like 8 months. But after 3 weeks I looked normal…..to the general public that is. But to ppl who know me, they could tell something was different. You actually will only notice how swollen you really are in pictures. I looked so fine in the mirror but in photos i always looked like i been bashed until about 6 months then my selfies started looking decent again
Cheekshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/v-line-rhinoplasty-at-girin.910360/page-2#post-28897647
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K CoutureReview2 Sep 15100
2 years that’s actually a quite long time compared to many other people. I know people who have been to other clinics who have to top up at 3 months. Anyways it depends on a few factors:

1) Area where fat is grafted
2) Individual resorption rate
3) Facial muscle movement
4) Administrative technique

mine was done first in May 2014 and then in March 2015. Before the top up i had more than 50-60% left coming into March 2015. After top up im sitting at about 80% and I’m a pack a day smoker (unfortunately). My fg hasnt gone down since so the administration technique they use is good, especially considering smoking affects the graft survivability.

My fat graft was done to the forehead. Great results. However I had some done nasofold during my top up. That region usually doesn’t last well for most people because we are constantly talking and being expressive. Therefore the first few months is the most important while the graft has yet to stabilize we must try not disperse it with facial muscle movement. Problem is certain areas its almost impossible to restrict movement and immobilize your face lol. See with the forehead botox works well to prevent muscle movement but areas like the nasofolds it doesn’t. Hence why I’m going to use hydroxyappatite to get rid of my folds.
Fat Grafthttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/fat-grafting-in-korea.815644/page-43#post-29113920
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K CoutureRumor15 May 14100
but taxi only costs 4 dollars if u are staying in Gangnam lol. Also, i think the consultants will assign you surgeons subject to availability UNLESS you request your surgeons. I believe most patients would be unaware who’s the head surgeons there anyway. Its quite alarming how many people actually walk into a clinic without doing any research whatsoever.

While i’ve heard good things about one of their other surgeons from a girl who got her eyes and nose done, as i’ve only experienced Dr Park and Dr Kim’s surgical technique i can only recommend you request the two of them for your procedure. Im pretty sure Dr Kim only handles facial contouring tho.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-plastic-surgery-with-dream-medical-group.867732/page-2#post-26757806
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K CoutureRumor24 Jul 14100
i dunno who told you that but Dr Park from Dream is fluent in English. He is even giving a speech (in English) at the IPRAS seminar in Singapore about closed vs open rhino techniques as a good deal of his work involves pioneering less invasive methods while still yielding good results. Its quite a coincidence that both him and Bryan Mendelson, my surgeon in Melbourne are speaking and on the same panel at the seminar. i hope they discuss my face…tee hee :p
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/scandal-at-jw-beauty-clinic-anyone-heard-about-it.875215/page-3#post-27136949
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K CoutureRumor21 Oct 14100
A couple of you have been asking about the procedures for eyelids at dream and also the diced cartilage + fat graft rhino so I figure this would be helpful

Today I went with two friends to the clinic. One was looking for lap band but it seems that is very uncommon in Korea. Go figure right, the ppl here are so slim….Anyways my other friend just got her eyes done.

So for her eyes she used non incisional via the dual wiring technique (parallel and verticle) so the risk of it coming loose is rather insignificant. Dr Park also performed ptosis correction which i had initially thought was not possible with non incisional. Dr Anna performed her epi. It seems that with Dream, even for an eyelid procedure they may assign more than one surgeon to the same region as long as they are more specialized in the particular aspect. Also it seems non incisional is only not suitable for individuals with thicker skin and fatty tissue which requires physical excision.

She also had transconjunctival fat repositioning for her eyebags was done by Dr Kim. We were initially looking for Dr Yoo but he was flying overseas today so Dr Kim performed it. I thought he only did bone contouring before today. Anyways he also alleviated her dark circles by manipulating the blood vessels in the area. The entire process was performed from inside the lower lid so no scarring. The immediate change is very impressive and bruising was minimal. She actually sent me a picture of her while I was at lunch because they performed the eyebags first and she was waiting on the rest of the procedures.

Finally she did her nose too using closed rhino. During the consultation she had 2 options. As her nose had a hump, it was suggested she have osteo for hump removal, ultra soft silicone to augment the bridge placed under the periostiem and above the bone, and septal + ear cartilage for tip projection. Option 2 was what Davin and Wishingstar had, which was diced cartilage into a granule form, fixed with fat graft and implanted into the bridge to fill the gaps between the hump. Dr Park explained the diced cartilage as being crushed with the surgical hammer and later mixed and molded into a putty form. He suggested this method because my friend didn’t want too much of an augmentation and a more conservative result. Initially she just wanted tipplasty but the figure he showed us explained that if one has a hump, performing tipplasty only will leave the shape somewhat wavey and irregular. Resorption he explained, while varies on person to person and cannot be accurately predicted, is significantly less than when fg is transplanted into other regions of the face where there is frequent muscle movement. I personally still prefer the ultra soft silicone as i’m all about maximizing height lol

Anyways she was basically up and walking an hour after surgery was is perfectly fine. Eyebags have immediate improvements. Eye lids are obviously swollen but symmetrical which is sign that it was performed well. Its always a bit scary when you notice assymetry right after surgery as its hard to internalize the possibility that the cause is not swelling. Nose is more swollen around the right alar as the closed rhino incision is from the right. But besides that its very symmetrical too.

Anyways I may be getting Ulthera tomorrow as I was advised that it shrinks your soft tissue so i’ll update for those who are interested in it. Tho I’m also getting fraxel and 2 tone so I’m not sure if its possible to do all at once….fingers crossed!
Nose, Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-plastic-surgery-with-dream-medical-group.867732/page-29#post-27560486
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K CoutureRumor22 Apr 15100
xxx Dream has really strict protocols which does not allow surgeons to act out of their speciality. For example you will never see Park doing facial contouring. And you will never see Kim or any of the other surgeons doing closed rhino. A few reasons for this:

a) Each surgeon has their own speciality and patients are thus assigned as such.

b) They have no training surgeons and are a mid sized clinic. Surgeon swapping is done at bigger clinics where they have training and inexperienced surgeons to make up for the volume of patients which their seniors are unable to cater for. Any moron who visits Dream and then visits a huge clinic like ID can see the profound difference in patient quantity.

c) When you said no one goes to Dream anymore because of surgeon swapping, well we recently had 5 forumers who went there, 6 including myself. Each of us were aware that no such thing happened. Why? Because we could see/hear the surgeon assigned to us. I wasn’t the only one who had a chat with Dr Park while he performed my rhinoplasty. Its common knowledge that he hums also while he performs his surgeries. We even had forumers who ask him what tune he is humming while he is performing the surgery.

Also are you aware that the reason why there are 2 completely different Dreams but share the same logo is because Dr Park is an extremely kind man? I asked him about this once, about why there are 2 seperate companies with such similarities. His response is that while Dream Medical Group has the legal rights over the name and logo, the Director who runs the other Dream is his Hyung, his senior. And because he went through his education and training with his senior, and also started Dream originally with him, out of respect and sentimentality he chooses not to take any action. Sorry but if it were me I’d send my legal team on the offence without a second thought. But this just shows that he is a kind and sentimental man who places his moral principles above profits. He would not allow something as unethical as surgeon swapping to go on in his clinic. So given all of this, what you say is a flat out lie.
Otherhttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/has-anyone-had-surgery-at-teuim-lately-or-will-go-to-teuim-or-dream-or-jw.902598/#post-28434196
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K CoutureRumor23 Sep 15100
I never did eyes at Dream mine is rhino reconstruction, acculift, fat graft and omega lift. But I’ve seen good results from my friends and family who did. Dr Park for non incisional if you want more natural. The other one is Dr Yoo who does reconstructive work and is an extreme perfectionist. Yoo is incredibly hard to book tho cos his schedule is always full since he does alot of reconstructive work it takes longer. Theres several forumers who went to Dream for eyes you can just do a search thru the forums their reviews will come up
Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-plastic-surgery-with-dream-medical-group.867732/page-44#post-29210653
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K CoutureRumor29 May 16100
Nope not 20 days. She is about 2 weeks post op. Still swollen but its not severe at all. It seems with the smas lift and the neck lift you don’t really balloon up like you would if you do bone contouring. I remembered looking like a chipmunk when I had my midface lift years ago and a monster when I just had my mandible reduction. She definitely looks 15 years younger at the moment. Her face is tight looking but that will return to normal in the following weeks once superficial swelling subsides (superficial swelling takes longer for lifts and facial bone contouring). I am able to tell it was really well done tho. You can barely see her previously deep naso folds anymore! It was a long surgery because she chose to do face and neck at the same time. And Dr Jo was extremely detailed to the nook and cranny.

Like what he did with my omega lift, he used a ruler and wrote measurements on her face and drew so many lines using a marker. After she came out of surgery I was so worried because she looked so weak from the general anesthesia. For older people it really takes more of a toll on their body. My mama in her 60s in case you’re wondering. But couple hours later she was playing some tetris type game on her ipad. Tho she kept complaining her feet were cold the first night.

The only issue she had was alot of sebum (gross white stuff) coming out of her back ear where the incision was made. Different people react differently and I am assuming its because my mum eats lots of crap. Dr Jo suggested a no oil, salad only diet for her for 5 days which really helped until day 3 where I caught her with munching on fried mandu in the hotel room. She even had some baked croissants stashed in the fridge :S. The next day her sebum appeared again so we went back to the hospital to get it cleaned.

Dr Jo had actually suggested her to stay in Seoul longer because she just did a big surgery but she wanted to stop by Hong Kong to go shopping. THENNNN SHE GOT AN INFECTION IN HONG KONG! I don’t know what she was doing but I know what she was eating. She went to this bakery and had croissants and cheesecakes plus Hong Kong is not exactly the most sanitary place…….So she had to fly back on a Sunday but Monday was a public holiday so the clinic was closed. Luckily Dr Jo was kind enough to arrange for her to be at the clinic on his day off just to make sure she is ok. She is perfectly fine now but moral of the story is……listen to your surgeon, especially when having long invasive surgeries.
Liftshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/where-to-buy-arnica-and-bromelain-in-seoul.905380/#post-28627697
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K CoutureRumor4 Jun 16100
I didn’t actually. I saw facelifting and eyes nose patients but didnt see any mandible reduction ones in the recovery level. Their fc specialist is Kim Young Joon, also the same surgeon who did the girl’s generation facial contouring. If you would to speak to someone who did it with him you should ask vanitygirl09. I believe she did it last year and is more than 8 months post op already so she will be a good indicator and source of info for you
Facial Contouring
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-plastic-surgery-with-dream-medical-group.867732/page-47#post-30295200
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K CoutureRumor30 Jun 16100
Bad pricing. All way overpriced. According to the price range the clinic belongs to, Lateral canthoPEXY (not plasty) should be in the low to mid 1 millions.
Two jaw im not sure tbh but the one doing it will be Dr Kim who is really expensive cos he did the facial contouring for the girl’s generation and other sm celebs. But that price is still def too high. At the very least 4-5 million won too high even with him as your surgeon.
Rhino that price is for their open rhino not their closed so you better check with them. They charge similar prices to april31 for their open rhino. But again that price is still too high. Ask them to itemize it for you. As in, what procedures are they calculating the rhino with to warrant that amount. They need to break down for you. Eg. Lateral Osteo + Alar + SEG. From there you get a better picture of how they trying to charge and then if its many of those procedures then the correct pricing should be in 5 mills not 7. If its a very simple job then seriously it shouldnt be over 4.
Arm lipo i imagine its 2.7 they quoted u lol……im not sure about lipo i never inquired -_-
Facial Contouring
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/post-prices-of-korean-clinics-here.831954/page-61#post-30383812
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K CoutureRumor4 Nov 16100
My mum did her SMAS lift with Dr Jo too. Results were great. Then she got her old lady bridage to all go to him for their facelifts too lol. I have done a facelift myself too but mine is a concentric malar lift done in Australia. I think to know which type of lift is suitable for you, you should go to different surgeons and get various opinions. Usually the consensus is whats most ideal.
Liftshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/smas-lift-review-needed.954670/#post-30775449
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KandiloveReview12 Nov 14-100
Hi there
I am planning on getting my third nose job as well.
The first one I got it done in Canada, it was gd but I wanted to get the bridge higher.
So last year I went to get it done in Korea. My fd recommended dream, without doing much research I just gone with dream. I did feel comfortable with the surgeon.
I got eye bag removal at the same time.
My eye bag removal was a success. Loved it! On the other hand, my nose did not turn out as well as I have hoped.
The bridge is higher than the tips.
I really dislike it and is planning on a second trip to fix it. This time I am doing a lot of research.
I am thinking of going with banobagi.
Heard it is a reputable clinic, but pricier than most.
They quoted me 8,000,000 won for my revision surgery. It’s quite more than I would like to spend. But if it will give me the nose I really wanted then I dont mind.
I really hope this will be the last nose job.
Have anyone gone to banobagi before?
Is there any other clinics you guys will recommend?

Thank you very much
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-3.731363/page-369#post-27650852
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KandiloveReview12 Nov 14100
Hi there
I am planning on getting my third nose job as well.
The first one I got it done in Canada, it was gd but I wanted to get the bridge higher.
So last year I went to get it done in Korea. My fd recommended dream, without doing much research I just gone with dream. I did feel comfortable with the surgeon.
I got eye bag removal at the same time.
My eye bag removal was a success. Loved it! On the other hand, my nose did not turn out as well as I have hoped.
The bridge is higher than the tips.
I really dislike it and is planning on a second trip to fix it. This time I am doing a lot of research.
I am thinking of going with banobagi.
Heard it is a reputable clinic, but pricier than most.
They quoted me 8,000,000 won for my revision surgery. It’s quite more than I would like to spend. But if it will give me the nose I really wanted then I dont mind.
I really hope this will be the last nose job.
Have anyone gone to banobagi before?
Is there any other clinics you guys will recommend?

Thank you very much
Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-3.731363/page-369#post-27650852
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katoiReview2 Jul 08100
The first doctor I went to also said I really needed it because if I kept using my forehead, I would get wrinkles very quickly. I don’t know if what I had was ptosis though. He said that because I haven’t used my eye muscles to open my eyes for a long time, it’s really weak and therefore he could perform a surgery to make it stronger. Before the surgery, if I put my hand on my forehead, I couldn’t open my eyes at all. I felt like a moron in front of the doctor because I was trying so hard to open my eyes but I couldn’t. :tears:
Anyways, I went to the Dream Medical Group at Apgoojung (it’s really close to the subway stop). There are 9 doctors there who perform surgery. My doctor was Hong Shick Song. The surgery was pretty expensive but only because I slit both the front and the end of my eyes while also getting eyelid surgery. The eyelid surgery itself was around $1,500. The consultant didn’t even ask me to do the forehead thing. She said that a lot of other clinics tell their patients they need it but in actuality, eyelid surgery is enough. She said that once I can open my eyes wide, I should naturally start using my eye muscles again.
Well these are my before and after pics. It’s been almost 3 weeks since I’ve gotten the surgery.
Before: b152414661.jpg In this photo, I was trying really hard to open my eyes to the fullest. :sweatingbullets:
After: b152414662.jpg
I hope I helped ^^ I’m o1_b4by btw
Eyeshttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/27115-double-eyelid-surgery-thread/?do=findComment&comment=7772876
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KawaiiHanaRumor3 Apr 12100
I’m going to Korea to get a nose job mid-July . I really wish I had more female Korean friends to accompany me ~

Anyways, this is my first post and in case anyone is wondering, I’ll be going into VIP and Dream for consultations . My friend ( who’s Korean ) had her nose done at Dream and it looks so good ! I wouldn’t catagorize it as natural looking though because it’s almost too perfect ? Haha .

I know this question has been answered a thousand times over , but are there any other places I should check out to get rhinoplasty done where English wouldn’t be a huge hurdle in Korea ?
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-3.731363/page-51#post-21488840
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KawaiiHanaRumor6 May 12100
It’s between Dream and VIP . My friend really insists on Dream and she is Korean and tells me she has never heard of VIP . I’m assuming VIP is more popular amongst foreigners . She’s really into surgery , LOL , so I trust her opinion ~ She says Dream is popular among many , many Korean idols . But she did tell me that I should go to Apuejong (INCORRECT SPELLING?) and get a consultation at as many places possible and go with the one I feel most comfortable .

To be honest, I like VIP because of the English speakers there. I really don’t want a miscommunication on what I want my nose to look like.

Dream never responded to my English email for pricing 🙁

The friend I’m taking with me isn’t Korean , so she won’t be doing any translating . Just giving me some nice moral bestfriendship support ! I do have a Korean friend that is going back to Korea the same time I’m going , but I’m sort of embarrassed to ask her to translate for me … -_- BUT I’LL TRY TO MUSTER UP THE COURAGE … :biggrin:

If I go to VIP, it’s going to be a rib rhinoplasty
If I go to Dream, it’s going to be silicone with an I shape implant and ear cartilage for tip (What my Korean friend has)
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kayriderReview8 Jul 11100
JUST came back from consultations with Banobagi and Dream. Banobagi at 10 a.m.: I arrive at their yeoksam location, which I booked a hotel there for 4 days and planned on booking the hotel for a longer period of time. Then I get at Banobagi at 10a.m sharp and mira calls me and tells me that the doctor is at their new location. She tried calling. Well, I asked her why didn’t she email me? This is now at 10:40ish. But in their defense, I do call from my skype number. And they also paid for the cab to get me to their new place. No harm there.
So off to see doctor Lee who knows very little english. I guess it was Mira who was there too to make sure I knew and he knew what I was talking about. They took pictures, and we critiqued together. He said that he wanted to do lateral osteotomy, then do a septum cartilage to add to my nose, to keep the tip stronger. Then add Silicone to fill in my radix that is slightly shallow. Then shave down the bump of my nose. No heightening of the bridge like I thought, but more work then I thought. his prices were fair, but his eye procedure is more expensive than Dreams.

Dream: I see a woman named Kim first and she knows more english than doctor Lee from Banobagi. I get to see dr. Park personally. His humor and personality is very dead. But what I liked about him, was that he showed me what he wanted to do by touching and using his little metal stick. He pointed and squeezed to show everything. Now this is the complicated part: He wants to do 5 things to my nose!! BUUUUTTT, no implants from silicone or gortex. He said he wanted to do septoplasty, get rid of the hump, clateral septomy, and something else and U-graft.
WHAT IS A U-GRAFT? the way I heard from kim the consultant and person who works out prices, its to strengthen the tip of the nose but not change it, and will make the outter part of the nose look slightly tighter by harvesting some cartilage from my nose. And also, Dr. Park said he would harvest something from the inside of my nose to add to my radix. All this was more than I expected. But since my nose is slightly curved to my right, which is something I give dr. Park credit for seeing without taking pictures, he showed me how to straighten it, but would have to re-fracture my nose. He said the swelling and everything would go down in 3 weeks and will be able to take photos again.
What are people’s thoughts about this? Is the U-graft good? He agreed that everything I was doing was not drastic, but it is an invasive procedure because of the refracturing and straightening of my septum. And he did tell me everything is going to be very small changes. And I mentioned, less is more on my nose.
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kayriderReview14 Jul 11-100
Day 2 after rhinoplasty and double eye lid surgery using dst method. I forget who asked earlier, but someone asked about bleeding for a day and I think my reply was lost from the forum being down:
Yes, bleeding is normal. I bled through my gauze for the first day, and now coming up finishing day 2, bleeding has slowed down to the point where I’m no swallowing blood, but if I put tissue up my nose to try and clean the crap ou a little, still a little blood. But I think dr. Park from dream really did a great job making it non invasive and actually did a closed surgery on me so it didn’t cause scarring and he said it’s the most natural look. After seeing migook’s photos too,I asked dr. Park to keep a very slight hump but just to shave it down a little and he used a radix injection made from crushed cartilage and some of my abdominal fat. Does anyone know if there is absorption time with this type of procedure of fat and crushed septal cartilage? I know with rib there is.
Dream cosmetics has been great so far, except they aren’t great with post care information to stop swelling or tell you what to expect. So you have to find out yourself or ask many many questions. I just assumed they would tell you. And also, during the procedures, since the nurses and most of the staff do not speak enlgish very well, they didn’t tell me what was about to happen and I was freaking when they were bringing out needles and some weird hardware. All they had to say was ‘cleaning’ and I would have been fine, but I was worried they were starting procedures and I wasn’t sedated. Then I felt very slight burning in my arm and was worried the nurse did something wright, but really it was the sedation. Someone could have saved me a lot anxiety and freaking out if they would have told me. Next thing I know, I’m tripping out and seeing colors and it felt like a movie was playing in front of my face but really there was a white cloth over my place. Anyway, they took care of me afterwards, it just sucked that those nurses didn’t bother trying to communicate any procedure or what was going to happen because I really was freaking out. I mean, it’s not like I’ve done this before
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kayriderReview5 Apr 12-100
hi guys,
I had two double eye lid surgeries with dr. park of dream in korea and now I want to go to Dr. Kenneth kim in LA. I am a male, but took two trips out to korea to get this done, and dr. park is good, he is very knowledgable and the sutures seem to be in place, but the sutures I think are loosing its strength. In the morning, the eye lids are great, but then as the day goes on, the eye lid is lower. And especially when there are photos, the eyes look bigger than without surgery but are still not visible. The right eye is mostly my concern and thats the reason why I had to do it again. Now the right eye is larger but still not large enough. Does dr. kim’s 3D suture technique work?
I’m concerned about making another costly trip out to korea which I can’t afford not only with time but with $. I’m hoping his technique is stronger and he can form the shape of the eye lid like I want.
Anyone get a suture technique and realize its strengths and weaknesses? I think it looks great in the morning but starts to fade as the day goes on
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kayriderReview25 Jun 12-100
@MissAria

Thanks for ur reply
🙂
I m just paranoid one day I open my eyes and the folds disappear :0 time to start saving fr incision. Then again I didn’t regret suture though because I m pretty sure I want em at this height and this shape. I got my lids done in a local hospital in Singapore.It seems I should not try tape but let nature takes its course and meantime be good to my eyelids.

Meanwhile, here are some fotos 9 days post op.

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I can’t even remember having single eyelids haha!
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kayriderReview17 Jul 12-100
I havent heard anything terrible about dr. kenneth kim, but the only thing that I really disliked about him was his inconsideration of someones time. Twice, I tried getting an online consultation with him. I thought that because he was affiliated with Dream in Korea, and they both have the same clinic name, I would be able to get a revision done by dr. kenneth kim. Boy was I wrong, and he’s been avoiding me a lot. He keeps saying I should be happy, its looks good and natural. But thats not the point. The point is, I wanted it to look like I did when I was using double eye lid glue, and it wasn’t even extremely high, but its obvious asymmetry in my right eye, and you can’t see the eye lid when you take a photo. I sometimes look cross eyed because of that. And if you look at my eye and the fold, its obvious that my right eye crease was placed lower than my left. Why a doctor would do this?! I have no clue!! If I sound bitter, its because I AM!!! Its been a year, and I’ve felt so low with my self esteem. Using double eye lid glue is even tougher with the stiches in! Its almost impossible and irritating to do now so now I don’t use them. I look older now because my eye lids are lower and my eyes are as “bright” when I used eye lid glue. I’ve lost interest in interacting with my friends because I know that they will notice something is off, and not to mention when I did rhinoplasty, I asked to reduce the hump but keep it slightly. Instead, dr. park at dream created more of a hump! And my nose looks bigger, not smaller. I feel like he just hacked away at my nose and made me less attractive. I’m pissed, especially now that dr. kenneth kim won’t do a complimentary revision. I already made two trips out to korea, and the eyes are slightly better the second time. Now I’m going to LA for a different doctor and I hope that he will make this right finally.
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kayriderReview19 Jul 12100
Just wanted to share my experience with double eye surgery + epicanthoplasty. First, I went for a consultation at BK, which is a pretty well-known clinic. The office is overall very clean, and the assistants are pretty nice and helpful. If you don’t speak Korean, I believe there’s someone who speaks English. After filling out a form, I went ahead to to meet with an assistant lady. She used a toothpick to show me what I could look like with double eyelids. She talked about how my eyes gave me a “sleepy” appeareance…but my mom told me that all plastic surgery clinics will tell you that you have sleepy eyes. I’ve personallly never been told that I appear to be sleepy. Most people think that I’m angry or something lol. Next, we met with one of the surgeons. He told me that my eye muscles lacked the strength to fully open my eyes, and recommended that I get some surgery to cut these muscles shorter, in order to make my eyes wider. He also recommended getting the incisional method for double eyelids, as well as the epicanthoplasty (removal of the little fold in the corner of your eyes), since I would be returning to America soon, and the non-incisional method wasn’t as secure. I decided not to go with this clinic, since I didn’t feel too comfortable with the doctor. At Dream, I went through a similar process. We met with a consultant, who recommended the non-incisional method, along with the epicanthoplasty and adjustment of the outer corners of my eyes as well. She used a little metal stick thing to make a fold in my eye, and told me to open my eyes wide. Unlike the surgeon at BK, she told me that my eye muscles were capable of opening to a normal width, but I had a habit of not opening them fully. I thought it was kinda sad that a consultant at Dream knew better than the surgeon from BK. She also said that the non-incisional methods used today were just as secure as the incisional method, except without the scarring. I couldn’t meet with the surgeons personally, but my mom wanted Dr. Park to do my eyes. So yeah, I decided to go for the non-incisional double eyelids and the epicanthoplasty. I don’t exactly recall the prices, but the double eyelids were around $1,300 and the epicanthoplasty was about $80. She was really reluctant to lower the prices, so yeah, Dream is much more strict about their prices. Surgery time! I had to wait quite a bit to get to the surgery room. First I met Dr. Park, who would be doing my double eyelids. He was very quick, and just straight up asked me how large I wanted my folds to be. Unfortunately, I had no idea what would be a natural looking size, so I just asked him for a small and natural fold. The examples that he made on my eye with the metal stick all seemed way too big for what I considered to be “natural”, though. He didn’t really say anything else. So I got a bit worried about how big he would make my folds. Next, I met with the doctor that would be doing the epicanthoplasty. I think his name is Dr. Yoo? Not too sure, but he looked much younger than Dr. Park. My mom and aunt kept on insisting that I wasn’t very good at Korean, simply because I don’t talk much in general
-_-
. Of course I’m not super fluent in Korean, but I can still understand/speak most words. Dr. Yoo (not sure if this is his name, but I’ll use it anyways) was very sweet, and explained the whole process to me in English, despite some difficulty. His English actually wasn’t that bad at all. He recommended that I either get an epicanthoplasty or fat repositioning under my eye (since I have huge dark circles). My aunt immediately decided to just go with the epicanthoplasty. I was asked to wash my face. I personally didn’t feel that anxious. After several minutes, I was led to the surgery room, in just my normal clothes. My mom specifically asked the nurses to tell the doctor that I wanted SMALL and natural looking folds. I laid down on the surgery table thing, the nurses put some towel to hold back my hair, and then covered the rest of my body with some sheet. She then cleaned my face with some alcohol. Soon, the doctor came in, and started drawing on my eyelids. The worst part was probably the anesthesia shots for my eyelids. I have somewhat of a high pain tolerance, but man. Those shots hurt. Of course I tried to relax my eyelids despite the pain. Then Dr. Park started the procedure. All I felt was just some pulling of the sutures. He was very efficient, and didn’t talk at all with the nurse helping him. I was asked to open my eyes a few times during the surgery. The whole thing took around thirty minutes. I then went to put an ice pack over my eyes and rest up before my next surgery. The epicanthoplasty lasted about an hour. Dr. Yoo was a bit more chatty than Dr. Park, but he was still very focused. He drew some stuff on the inner corners of my eyes, and then proceeded to snip and stitch away. I think he also burned some fat in my eyes as well, but the smell wasn’t too terrible. The two anesthesia shots I got for this surgery were just as painful as the last shots. Recovery so far…sorry for the lack of pictures, I rarely take pictures of myself. Day 1: A lot of swelling. Then again, I asked for small folds, so I guess I didn’t look too weird. My eyes also kind of hurt where the stitches were. Day 2: Still the same amount of swelling. My eyes were still hurting. Day 3: Probably the most swelling on this day. Went to the nurses to get my eyes cleaned up. Eyes were starting to hurt less. Day 4: Swelling went down a bit. No more pain in my eyes, just itchiness. But the bruises under my eyes were somewhat uncomfortable. Day 5: Today! Getting my stitches removed. I hope it isn’t too painful lol Make sure to use the ice pack a lot if you want the swelling to go down quickly.
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kitty5566Review17 Oct 14100
Hi all ! Pls give me some time to reply some of the messages as I been away. I’m currently in Seoul now and doing my 4th revision for my nose . Before I release the name of clinic I just would like to share my experience about two other clinic that I go for consultation. So anyway, I booked appointment with dream plastic surgery, I went there and the consultant and translator are really nice. Clinic is nicely done up too. I consulted Dr park for my case.im glad that he say my nose is ready for revision despite is 4th month post surgery as usually revision can only be done after 6 months. He said mine is contracted nose case won’t make any diff if I continue to wait.

So dr park suggest i use derma fats and my own rib for tip next I asked for pic to show his works for upturn nose he only managed showed me one and the nurse told me he is actually better in doing close surgery. I was really convinced to do with him so went to 2nd doc.

2nd consultation was with JK. When I reach there , the whole place seems pretty quiet. So the girl attended me was called serah seems pretty nice, I was brought to a room and the doc come to me Instead. (Kinda odd I usually go to doc room instead the doc come to me). So he explained my situation as contacted nose and say I should not wait and should do my nose soon. He also suggested own rib n derma fats (in case you not sure what’s derma fats is own butt tissue to make the bridge) and I asked if he can use my ear cartilage to make my tip he seems reluctant so. As I have one side of ear is untouched which means doc still cab harvest it. Again I asked to see his work for upturn nose but I wasnt impressed by this work at all.

Feeling rather dishearted at this moment as I went to two doc and none of them seems to be my idea type of nose I want. By looking at their primary case is not good enough, as you know contracted nose is like short nose, the doc must be skilled enough to pull my nose down. Lastly I went to the last clinic is call april31. Out of all, I suppose a lot of people might not have heard it, when I reach the place is rather small clinic and not as posh as the rest of clinic I went. The translator that attended me was call brian. He really nice and speaks fluent English, even though I was taken a back by the looks of the clinic but never judge a book by its cover ! I went in and consulted with dr Kim. He seems confident of my nose he say he will do is best to bring down my upturn nose and what he suggested is used my ear cartilage and derma fats for the surgery. I really wanted use silcone for my bridge but he mention as I have infection before he strongly suggest that I should use my own tissue to prevent any infection. As usual I asked for his work and he should be a couple of few surgeries he had and even a video of it . This technique of nose surgery is diff. Basically as you know most nose surgery after you done it the tip will be stiff and not movable but however he is able to remain your tip like a natural tip which allows you wigger your nose like a natural nose. Go to his website check it out. As you can guess , I chose april31. Though it doesn’t look posh but I have to say doc seems to did a great job to my nose even though I can’t see it yet. I don’t even have much swelling compare to my last surgery with dr suh from jw. And my bleeding stops on 2nd day. Most important is dr Kim placed a tube in my nose and I can totally breathe from it !! Previously with jw they stuffed two cotton inside my nose I can’t breathe at all i almost died from the stuffing because it was so uncomfortable.

Well now I’m waiting for my recover and can’t wait to see the result !
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kkim120Review2 Jan 15-100
Okay guys, I?m finally putting together my review since I?m on a 10 hr flight and I?m wide awake.

Before I start, I?d like to put this disclaimer. I travel a lot but this trip was the most difficult trip I?ve ever made. From nonstop screaming babies who?s lungs kept going strong during an 11 hr flight to a deathly flu that kept me bedridden for over 48 hrs. It was the worst trip EVER.

So from the top: Before arriving in Korea, I was set on getting eyes, rhino revision and fat graft.

I had my nose done in 2012 at JW, but Dr. Suh did open rhino tiplasty using my septal cartilage–nothing else was done. No alarplasty, no osteotomy, nothing.

Fast forward to December 2014, my before and after photos looked exactly the same. My mom and dad made fun of me saying, my nose looks the same but is much more delicate. I can?t do piggy nose, I can?t push down on my nose tip, and my nose doesn?t feel quite as it did before surgery.

Getting a rhino revision was my top priority during this trip. Eyes, fat grafting were secondary. If I couldn?t do it, then fine. If I can?t touch my nose because of surgery, then by god my nose will look like it had surgery!!!

Dream
I went to Dream, because like all of you, I?ve read KCouture?s reviews. I specifically asked for Dr. Park and the front desk receptionist told me to sit down. Dream is BEAUTIFULLY decorated. I think the best part was free juice (Aloe and mango but the mango juice tastes gross) and a coffee machine thing. I?m a tea person so IDK whether it?s any good, but it was hecka fancy.

Weirdly, they had videos of sea turtles and fish playing on GIANT monitors. Åre we supposed to be inspired by the beautiful animals? Nature doesn?t move me. :/ They also had booths where two people could sit and watch before and after videos in enclosed-kinda-private spaces.

The actual place was pretty full. I?d say 40% Chinese/foreigners and 60% Korean. But the place was packed. After waiting forever (why do we even bother with appointments?) I finally got to speak with the consultant. Lee Mi Young. She was an older lady (I asked about Unji Kim but apparently she was off that day). She shuffled me into her office and we talked about my eyes and nose. She said that I shouldn?t talk to Dr. Park but insisted on me having my consultation with Dr. Jung Jae Yeon. Of course this pissed me off since I came all the way here to talk to Dr. Park. She said that for ME, Dr. Jung is way better since Dr. Park doesn?t specialize in open rhino and since I did open rhino in the past, I?d have to do it again for revision. This could all be BS to make me go with Dr. Jung, but she wouldn?t budge on the Dr. Park so I waited for Dr. Jung.

I met Dr. Jung and? well, he?s quite young. I?d say not in his 40?s by far. He told me I could do revision tiplasty and maybe slight alarplasty but it wouldn?t change much ?maybe 10-15%.? He also said, ?to be honest I don?t want to do your surgery.? His reasoning being, if I?m unhappy with my ?results? from my first tiplasty, i won?t be content in round 2. This made me really sad and he made it sound like i was addicted to surgery or something. First consultation basically told me to lose hope regarding my big bulbous nose.. 🙁

I was quoted very low. Even the DA consultant was amazed at how low they quoted me at Dream. Maybe because I spoke Konglish with the consultant, so we were speaking part Korean and part English. When I spoke with Dr. Jung, we spoke just Korean–there was no translator present. I didn?t haggle or anything.

I?m not actually posting the prices I received during consultation because I lost the paper with prices for April 31 and View. If you?re curious about Dream, DA or ID prices let me know. I have those. 🙂

DA
If you guys have read any of my other posts, you would know, I?m totally OBSESSED with the show Let Me In. It?s totally binge worthy. Anyway, I picked my surgery clinics based on that show and reviews I saw on Naver. Dream is the only place I picked due to PF. Anyway, DA is also a Let Me In clinic so I asked to speak with the Let Me in Doctor.

While I was waiting I noticed that DA was strangely empty. There were five or six Chinese tourists/patients hanging out with one girl bandaged up, but no one else was in the reception area. This is the same day where Dream was bustling, so I was surprised.

I spoke with Dr. Jung Yeon Woo (maybe it?s Chung? it?s the Korean &#51221;) Anyway, I felt like Katniss in front of President Snow. His hands, his breath.. something smelled like blood. And unlike Dr. Jung at Dream who barely touched my nose, Dr. Jung at DAPS touched my nose a lot. turning it this way and that.

He concluded that I should do everything possible to reshape my nose–excise my fatty tissue, redo tiplasty with ear cartilage, alloderm for bridge (since i don?t want to use silicone), and alarplasty. He also warned that because they need to excise lots of tissue from my fatty tip, the results may not look natural, freaking me out. For eyes, he said nonincisional would be fine–he jokingly said ?you have very thick tissue on your nose but thin tissue on your eyes.?

Here too, I didn?t use a translator. My consultant and the doctor both spoke to me only in Korean. I don?t know if it?s because the translator wasn?t there but if I hadn?t researched the procedures myself before going to Korea, I would?ve been left confused–not understanding what it was he was planning to do to my face.


Also, they had no juice.

Girin
I had a consultation scheduled with them but I couldn?t actually make it to see the doctor. I sat in their waiting room but I didn?t want to miss my consultation with View, so I had to leave before I spoke with anyone but the receptionist. Their waiting room was moderately full, but it was a lot smaller than either Dream?s or DA?s. I met a forumer who went here for jaw and nose–I saw her when she was still bruised and swollen, but she seemd happy with the service here.

View
To be honest, I had high hopes for View. Their Let Me In results are quite legendary, almost at the level of ID. BUT WOW. The doctor here is so abrasive and RUDE!

I met with Dr. Choi Soon Woo–the head doctor of View and I was so disappointed. I know arrogance and skills aren?t correlated, but I just didn?t get a good feeling from him. He said I had to do everything possible to my nose: osteotomy, alarplasty, silicone implant (which I really don?t want), fatty tissue excision, tiplasty revision for nose. He also said I needed full face fat graft and started pointing at my sister, saying she needed fat grafting here, there everywhere. My sister who?d only come to accompany me and has no interest in plastic surgery-whatsoever- was super offended. So was I.

After he said my face was wide, short and flat he got into my eyes where he recommended:
non incisional DES with medial epi, lateral cantho and lower cantho–in korean: &#50526;&#53944;&#51076;, &#46263;&#53944;&#51076; & &#48145;&#53944;&#51076;.

I lost the slip with their prices, but I remember DA gave better prices. And I didn?t like Dr. Choi at all so View was off my list.
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kkttyyReview10 Aug 16-100
Hi sunrise
Can you also pm me? I also got my nose done at dream
At this point I am not happy with my results and I wanted to find out about your friends nose specifically . Thank you so much for sharing your story . Wishing you the best of luck on your results !
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koala12Rumor2 May 11-100
Do not go to Dream clinic for eye revision!! I know someone who did their eye revision and resulted with asymmetry and permanent epi scar. Plus, it’s crowded and patients felt very rushed from what i heard directly.
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koalaaaReview14 Sep 16100
I had very similar story. I had non-incision double eyelids with ptosis corrections last 2 years ago with Dr Park. My ptosis is still there. My eyelids are uneven and droopy.
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koreanboyRumor29 October 10100
Park Won Jin is doing my nose and Lee Seon Gu is doing my chin. They’re both specialists in those respective areas, and they’re both at Wonjin, which is named after the guy doing my nose. Wonjin is one of the biggest and most well-known plastic surgery clinics in Korea. I was actually surprised that so many of you seem to be going to places that are totally unknown in Korea, like Simmian (with this Dr. Jung guy?) and VIP. I’d never heard of them, and no one in Korea knows anything about them. The biggest, best-known places are Dream, Grand, BK, Wonjin, ID… I’m guessing places like Simmian and VIP only target foreigners because they’re not popular in Korea
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KrisvenRumor24 Dec 17-100
My friend went to dream and she doesn’t like her nose . She went to other clinic for revision . Recommend gng they are expert on nose
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KrisvenRumor22 Feb 18-100
My friend went to dream 2 years ago she’s not satisfied with her nose . And she went back in sk for revision. She also did fat Graft in dream she doesn’t like it either . She feels like she was botched
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LanvinfiendReview14 September 14100
Anna, how did surgery go? Hope recovery is going well!

I’ve met Dr Park. I personally found him to be very informed and professional, and specific when I asked specific (and incredibly anal) questions, albeit not the most effusive/chatty. This doesn’t bother me, I have lots of chatty girlfriends!

He’s not really a salesman, in the sense that he doesnt do the whole I-will-make-you-beautiful speech. I think he responds better to specific questions -infection rates, measurements etc.
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lemmetelluRumor23 Feb 18100
Actually, I will just take this time to write down all the clinics I had on my list. I whittled this long list down to 7, then to the 5 that could see me on short notice.
I was going to make a new post, but I guess it’s not THAT worthy and I’m too lazy to write out long things for all the clinics and why I put them on my list.

Ive- Dr. Seong Soo Jang
Shinseung- Dr. Young Shik Shin
Oscar- Dr. Seung Wook Baek
MVP- Dr. Hyo Seok Seo
June- Dr. Tae Seop Lee
Kim Han Sung
Teuim
Banobagi
Dream- Dr. Yang Soo Park or Dr. Song
Foret
Natural Face- Dr. Go
Gyalumhan- Dr. Tae Joo Ahn
View- Dr. Jung Min Kim
Secret
Navi- Dr. Soo Woo Jung or Dr. Yoo
Misoline
Leeface

If there’s a doctor’s name next to the clinic, it means those are the docs that I thought would be the most skilled for eyes at that particular clinic.

MVP and Teuim were on my list solely due to Purseforum. It was hard to find info on Teuim on Korean cafes and blogs, because the word in Korean is the same word for epi basically. lol. So I’m still not 100% sure what Koreans think of Teuim since I only saw a few reviews.

All the other places were mentioned quite a lot on Korean cafes as providing natural-looking DES results, so if you were thinking of going to any of the clinics on this list, then I think it’s fine. Obviously, I’m not like some expert on DES in Korea, but I researched a lot for a long time to get to this list. Some places like Natural Face, Gyalumhan, and Navi I was a little suspicious of brokers, but I did see photo reviews that looked nice.
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lemonpeelReview28 May 14100
Hi guys,

So I consulted Real and Dream today. I’m suppose to go to banobagi tomorrow but i’ve set on dream and i’m scheduled for surgery this Friday.

Consultation at Real: I was actually referred to by a friend who has done rhinoplasty there. She had good results from the head doc, Dr Kim. In fact, he was also recommended by a local celeb aesthetics doctor in Singapore. The English speaking nurse, amy, is very fluent in English and is cheerful, friendly and helpful. During my consultation with her, I was recommended a closed rhinoplasty. I thought I would need an alarplasty but it turns out I don’t need to at all. My primary concern is the tip as it is very rounded. For my bridge however, they only used hard silicone and goretex. Apparently dr kim recommends goretex as it gives the most natural look which I agree. However, i’ve read that goretex can give rise to many complications in the future. That was my first worry. She also recommended using my septal cartilage for my columella and ear for my tip. It is impt to note that my friend who had rhinoplasty only had tiplasty done as she had a strong bridge to start with.

tip plasty + bridge augmentation + harvesting cartilage + meds + sedation / local anaesthesia

However, when i consulted dr kim himself, he encouraged to do an open rhinoplasty due to the structure for my nose. The procedures are exactly the same except that it was open. The price increased quite a lot. He says I would achieve better results if I were to go for open rhinoplasty. Overall, I felt very comfortable and confident with the doctor and his expertise. However, I did not like the idea of goretex at all. not one bit. that was a major turning point for me.

Dream consultation : Compared to real, dream was way bigger and more professional looking. I was referred to a friendly consultant, miss lee. Her english was not was as fluent as amy’s, but she got the main points across. She recommended the same procedures except that the material they use for the bridge is ultra soft silicone. Later on when i visited Dr Park Yang Soo, he still recommended close rhinoplasty. I asked if open was necessary for my case and he said no. A closed rhinoplasty would be good. He was also very patient and kind throughout the consultation. So at the end of the day, I chose dream because I was not only confident of Dr Park’s skills, I like that he recommended a close rhinoplasty and he will be using ultra soft silicone which is much safer in the long term in my opinion. Dr Park, however, didnt touch my nose whatsoever. Dr Kim did and thus, recommended an open rhinoplasty. That’s why i’m worried.

Would an open rhinoplasty be better for me? Would it give me better results? But I still do not like the idea of using goretex for my bridge. Thus, I chose Dr Park from Dream. In any case, i’m already scheduled to have surgery this Friday. Hope all goes well.
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lemonpeelReview30 May 14100
Hi guys !

So I just had my op at dream with dr park and everything went smoothly. During the consultation, I particularly requested for a much more defined tip and that I didnt want it to be round anymore. I also showed him a picture of a nose I liked. Right now from the looks of it, I can see that my tip is much higher than what it was before and I’m pretty glad (:

The surgery was really surreal. I was half conscious . In fact during the surgery, I had psychedelic visions and could still hear the surgeons talking at the same time!! Haha. I could also feel tugs and pulls but they don’t hurt at all. Another doctor harvested my cartilage while dr park did the construction. I had to be sedated twice as I became fully conscious in between. I kinda talked to dr park towards the end of the surgery. I thanked him and said he was cool. All while he was doing the final stitching. Lol.

I vomited twice after the surgery but I think it’s because of immediate movement after the anaestesia and blood. It’s normal to vomit a ill after surgery. Felt pretty high and drugged as well. But 1.5 hours later, I feel pretty much normal. except that my nose feels heavy? Also, I’m starting to bruise around my cheeks!

Daphne, one of the staff there was really comforting. I ranted all my fears and questions prior to the consultation and she really did put my heart at ease (: she accompanied me to the op theater and was there when it ended. I am glad she was there throughout my first ever surgery. Her presence was really comforting immediately after the operation. And also, my mom who is now taking care of me. I’m really glad she is supporting me all the way.

I will update you guys after my second consultation (:
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lemonpeelReview14 Jun 14-100
Hi guys, here is an update. It may be a lil lengthy for some.

It has been 6 days since I removed and to be honest, my nose isnt exactly up to my expectations. I do know that it takes up to 3 weeks for most of the swelling to go down and 6 months to a year for your nose to settle and take shape. But i have seen amazing results of some just a week after their cast has been removed. However, i’m being patient and giving it time. Don’t get me wrong, i’m glad how it has turned out to be thus far. There were no complications whatsoever. The current nose is an improvement of my previous nose too. But well, it looks like my old nose with a slight enhancement.

When I was in my cast, I had a slightly piggy nose but i actually quite liked it! I could see definition and for some strange reason, it also looked smaller. lol.

Currently, i can see slightly more projection from the bottom up angle and it does look better from the side view. But it is roundedly projected, if you know what I mean. From a dead straight frontal view, it looks the same. The thing is, I specially said during my consultation that how my nose looks from the front is very important. I also showed pictures of noses that were similar to mine in terms of shape and condition which had excellent results.

Dr Park is a great doctor. He is capable of giving change and many are very happy with their results with him. He does err onto the conservative side but he is an excellent doc. But it does boil down to your expectations and perception. Not forgetting the type of procedures you choose too.

To be honest, I would have chosen Real clinic if not for the material they use which i’m not comfortable with- goretex. Both consultations said my nose was in excellent condition and had good structure to make change- that is, it is possible to excise more tissue than most patients. At Real, I was initially recommended a closed rhinoplasty. However upon closer examination from the doc, he said open would be better for me as it would produce better results, especially since i’m mainly getting tip work done. He said he could a closed but an open would be better. But I chose Dream because, firstly, I prefer ultra soft silicone and secondly, since it is my primary, I thought a closed would be a safer option.

There are many factors which can influence the outcome of your surgery. The surgeon, the structure and condition of your nose, the procedures done, whether it was an open or closed rhinoplasty. But the bottom line is, you have to manage your expectations too.

Here’s my two cents worth, If your nose is in good condition, and you are mainly looking to get your tip more defined, an open may be a better choice. Although I had a round nose tip, both consultations affirmed me that a lot more tissue could be excised. So yes, it really depends on the condition of your nose. I have seen many who have done open rhinoplasty and tip work done with excellent results.

I may head back to korea if my nose remains more or less the same after a year.

Ultimately, do you homework people!
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Lilian Nguyen
Review6 Nov 14-100
Hi everyone,
It already been 7 days post op of my nose, I got it done by dr Park of Dream clinics. I had a closed rhino with ultra soft silicone, septal cartilage to extend the length n ear cartilage to raise the tip, fat removed from the tip too.
After removed the bandage 3 days before, I experience some following problems: 2 nostril are not even, the nostril been operated is bigger and a bit up while the other more flat. The whole part of the tip still huge, even bigger than before. The last thing my breath still weak so I am still breathing through my mouth.
Is there anyone there had the same problems. Please share. Feel so worried right now.
Thanks
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Lilian Nguyen
Review7 Nov 14100
Thanks a lot for all of your advices. I also met dr. Park yesterday and mentioned all of my problem. He touched my nose hard (a bit scary then T T ) he showed me where is swelling and how the shape gonna be settled. It’s very similar to all of your advice (feel release now). I also be adviced to wear the nasal supporter and use the nose spray after 2 weeks op. Everything now is time.
Again, thanks everyone K, Riel, milkychoco. Love u guys. *_^
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Lilian Nguyen
Review10 Nov 14100
My healing so far is alright, the side been operated is still swollen than the other side, but the curve of my nose looks really natural. My neighbour even told me that if she didnt know me before would not recognise that I have a nose job. Haha.
Dr Park did my nose for sure. After the sedation gone, he is still working on my nose so I asked “is that nearly done?” And he replied me, I talked to him some thing until he finished and told me “it’s done”. So I am sure he the one did my nose.
They quoted me the highest price in 3 clinics I visited ( April 31 is 6mil, DA 5.3 mil and Dream is 6.6 mil)
They explained what I have is ultra soft silicone, septal cartilage to extend the nose, ear cartilage to raise the tip up and fat removed from tip so it looks small and sharp). I bargained down to 5.6 mil. The price will depend on what procedures you need to take. Not sure I have the good price or not but whatever, the trust on your doctor is more important.
I was travelling with my fiancé, and staying in Inn the city service apartment. The food is everywhere nearby the hotel and we even asked the receptionist order for us the pumpkin soup delivered to our room.
The only thing you should concern is after the surgery you will feel like hangover for about 2 hours and have to manage to catch a taxi home by yourself. Other than that nothing to worry.
It’s better you go on the low season, on the last few days at the hotel, it is packed with all people has plastic surgery done, people with bandage everywhere while 2 weeks before that I was the only one with bandage.
Just think about it and I am happy to share experience with you.
Cheers.
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lolipop32Swiss
Rumor20 May 15100
Thanks HJ88 for your message.

After this FC surgery, it has been up and down?
Thanks god I don’t feel any pain or have any other kind of complications linked to this surgery.
That’s why i recommend you guys to see if you can use botox injection instead to give you nice shape. My friend went to Dream for botox injection and she looks smoky hot without all this after ps very long healing process. I expected all this before of course but still not easy to deal with everyday 🙁

I can talk normally now so hopefully you wiill soon too. It feels good to know someone who is going through the same phase that i did. you gave me hope and positive vibes 😉

I still have numbness on my chin area but elsewhere numbness is gone!
I can’t imagine to have to go through revision for fc. Some of my friends are going for revision this year and i find them so brave!!!
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lolipop32Swiss
Rumor3 July 15-100
Oh Numi. Do you want to have second opinion and go to my friend s clinic for your eyes ?
It happened to my friend who went to Oscar they gave her something to apply for a while.
As for nose, 3 weeks is so early to tell but I understand the feeling. My friends who went to Dream , april 31, Braun, Jw, tlps , are now 8 weeks post op and said their noses have changed week by week but they all will come back for révision.
So am I .
Please post à photo or share it privâtely so we can help you out dont let 5 days go without seeing another dr for your eyes !
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lolipop32Swiss
Rumor6 Jul 15100
Dr kim made my forehead look weird like someone Hit me and I have Big protruded forehead. Thats why I was scared to do it again this time. But this time I saw many friends of mine did full face and it looks Nice. Especially the girls who did it at braun. Dream also made good fg but gone so fast on my 3 friends who went there.
And at that time had uneveness all over my forehead but I forgot to mention that the first time dr kim took fat from my belly button Maybe that’s why It Didnt have a Nice effect but also because dr kim was mad I had local price lol ? This time fat was taken from thé thighs which dr said it is the best for face fg
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lovdReview26 Jul 09-100
So…I got my double eyelids surgery done about a month ago and my right eye is coming undone a bit. It’s not as deep as the left eye and my mom says it looks like it’s not there anymore. She scheduled an appointment for my tomorrow to get my right eye redone, but I have summer classes throughout this week and next week. How do I hide the swelling/incision marks? Will it not look as strange because my right eye still has a bit of double eyelid?
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LoverrrlyRumor17 May 12100
I probably know as much as you do when it comes to these clinics. Most of the things I know are from research and some friends of mine.

I’m doing my nose and eyes in August. In my opinion, I feel that going to one that is popular among locals are better rather than clinics that target internationals such as BK, OZ, and I cant rmr what is. Many locals don’t even know these clinics, so I’d rather go with my gut and go to one that has a good reputation among the locals even if their is a language barrier. They usually have a translator. Try emailing them and they respond in English. They don’t target internationals because they’re doing perfectly fine with the locals. That’s what I want

Grand, Dream, Regen, Wonjin, and Cinderella are all VERY popular in Korea and many stars have been there. I know G. Na and Afterschool have been to Cinderella, but I can’t remember which went to the other ones.

My list so far is

Grand
Banobagi
Wonjin
Cinderella
Vip

But I’m still REALLY indecisive 🙁
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LuckyHRumor11 Dec 09100
Hi everyone, my korean american friend told me that Dream clinic “http://dreamsurgery.co.kr/sub01/sub01_02_01.aspx” is also a famous place for doing nose job in Korea. Their website has only a few before & after pics. This doesn’t tell me much how good the doctor is. I tried to contact them 2 times via email 2 months ago but have not heard anything from them. Anyone who has more info about this clinic please share. I plan to go to South Korea for my nose job in March, 2010. I don’t speak korean and don’t know anyone there neither, so if anyone plans to go around that time, we can go together. By the way, I live in South Cali.
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MaiQRumor6 Apr 14100
Yes all of mine are primary. I have read and ask my Korean friend, they said Dream is among the busiest clinic in term of no. patients. So I would surely try to get hold of Dr. Kim and Park. I hope they prioritise international patients to consult with these two because I dont think the rest of the doctor can speak Eng very well.
My major concern is cost, Dream is top on my list right now based on the detailed comms and from what I have read no negative reviews so far, but I hope to bring the prices down a bit more to fit my budget. Do you think negotiate like 25% down is reasonable? I’m thinking of “pretending” to be Korean (or ask my korean friend) to send email to them to see the prices they quote to locals actually then compare.
Have you booked surgery with them already or would you consult more clinic in May/June?
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maplecandyReview28 May 16100
Comparing April31 and Dream

After all of this, I was torn between Dream and April31. Dr. Park of Dream and Dr. Kim of April31 are both really respected. I really like the closed rhino method that Dr. Park uses, since there’s no external scarring, and how detailed he was in explaining everything to me. The consultant was also very patient in answering questions, and she showed me quite a few before and after photos. The photos all looked really good, even first week post-op. At April31, we had to request for BA photos, and even then, the consultant kind of rushed through them. Instead of having a long session with the consultant like I did at Dream, I only had max 3-4 min with the consultant at April31 before we went in to speak with the surgeon. I understand that it was due to the availability of Dr. Kim, but I wish the consultant spoke with us longer after the consultation with the surgeon. We had a lot of questions, which Brian tried to answer. At a few points in our conversation, Brian decided to bring in the consultant again to answer our questions, but even then, she only stayed for 2-3 minutes, and left. She also came in 2 separate times to answer our questions, so she was definitely not super busy. Therefore, I don’t understand why she couldn’t have just spent the entire time with us after our consultation with the surgeon.

As I mentioned before, Dr. Park was very detailed in explaining his procedures to me. On the other hand, Dr. Kim didn’t mention any specifics of what he was going to do (like how he was going to use the cartilage/materials, how he was going to place it, etc). Instead, Brian was the one clarifying on those points, showing me diagrams and such. Brian also mentioned that Dr. Kim makes a lot of decisions when the patient is already on the operating table, such as the height of the implant, how to place the cartilage in the tip, etc. Instead of having standard heights for the silicone, Dr. Kim apparently carves it himself based on what he thinks fits the patient best. He also cuts the silicone in half, since he only places the silicone on top of the bone of the nose. Brian mentioned that some other surgeons would use the I-shaped silicone from bridge to tip, and just add a bit of cartilage to the tip on top of the silicone. Instead, Dr. Kim uses purely cartilage for the tip. As a result, Brian claims that patients can do piggy nose/move their tip around a year post-surgery, unlike noses done by other surgeons, which turn out to be hard (that’s why on Korean variety shows, celebrities prove their noses are natural by doing piggy nose).

Because Dr. Kim really customizes his procedures based on the needs of the patient, he employs the open rhino method. Brian claims that because Dr. Kim is really careful with his suturing, the scarring is minimal to nonexistent.

As you can see we spent a LOT of time speaking with Brian in comparison to speaking with the consultant or Dr. Kim. We even went into April31 a second time to ask more questions. I appreciate how patient Brian was with us, though I do wish we spent more time with Dr. Kim. Although I felt that Dr. Kim was quite clear in explaining what results he would help us achieve in the surgery, I do wish he (or the consultant) was there to field all our questions (we had a **** ton).
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maplecandyReview28 May 16100
Dream

I decided to consult with them because the head surgeon there (Dr. Park) is really well known and skilled. He’s known for being really good at closed rhino, where the incision is made inside the nostrils instead of outside. Therefore, less scarring. The downside of closed rhino is that there is less visibility for the surgeon, which is why you have to be really skilled to be able to pull it off.

I headed there the morning after I landed in Seoul. The clinic is located on the second floor of CGV theater (lol I went to the wrong location at first), and it looks really clean and big. Riley was my translator. She’s super nice and cute. I first sat down with her and a consultant, who recommended bridge augmentation and tip plasty. She also said that the tip plasty would be enough to gather the alars, so alar reduction was not necessary. To make my face more balanced, she also recommended fat grafting on my forehead, since my forehead is quite flat.

Then, we went to meet with Dr. Park. He spoke pretty good English, so Riley didn’t have to do too much translating. I really liked how detailed he was in explaining exactly what procedures he would be using. For the bridge, he’d be using I-shaped ultra soft silicone; for tip plasty, septal cartilage (for the strut) and ear cartilage (for the tip). He also drew diagrams and named the different medical procedures (the names of which are lost on me, but I appreciated the information; he also wrote it down for me). As for the height of the silicone, he said 3.5mm was standard, while 3.0mm was for more natural results. I asked for the 3.0mm.

Later, I met with the consultant again, who showed me before and after photos. The results looked really good, and natural as well. The doctor had also emphasized natural when I was speaking with him, which is exactly what I’m looking for.

The consultant also gave me a final quote, which included rhino, fat grafting for forehead, and Botox jaw shots (which I had requested).
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marirRumor15 Oct 11-100
Hey guys! I joined PB today just so I could post on this thread. ^^ I’ve been wanting to go to Korea for plastic surgery (v line, eye fat graft, calf reduction, rhino, lip augmentation) so this thread has been extremely helpful. I decided I’d compile a list of all of the Korean plastic surgery clinics brought up in this thread, because it’s honestly a pain searching through 27 pages of posts to find a website. -__- I think I got all of the clinics mentioned so far, so if I missed a few, please forgive me! I also couldn’t find the link to a few of them, so it would be awesome if you guys could provide that.
I recommend checking out all of the websites, finding your favorite clinics, then consulting one-on-one with the doctors at those clinics.


Notes I gathered from other posters are in the parenthesis.
* means they were recommended by people living in Korea, who may be more knowledgeable about the more popular local clinics.

BK DongYang (some bad reviews, Kim recommendation)
http://eng.bkdy.co.kr/

OZ (Park recommendation)
http://drpark.co.kr/eng/index.htm

IAAN Clinic
http://www.iaanclinic.com/

Banobagi (overpriced)
http://nosebanobagi.co.kr

VIP (someone commented on getting an uneven face surgery here)
http://www.beauty-korea.com/

Shimmian (overpriced, Jung is skilled in rhino though)
http://nosejung.blogspot.com/

Bandoeye (Cho recommendation, eyes)
http://www.bandoeyeps.com/inc.php?inc=intro/intro_eng

Regen
http://eng.regen.co.kr/

*Dream (busy, not for eye revision)
http://www.dreamsurgery.co.kr/

Teuimps ( recommend Kwon originally from Migo, eyes)
http://english.teuimps.co.kr/english/main/main.html

*Cinderella Inc. (overpriced, popular)
http://plakr.cindyclinic.com/

Jung Il Bong (has done many actresses?)

Smallface Clinic (similar surgical procedure as Cinderella but cheaper)
http://www.small-face.com/main/main00.htm

Petit
http://www.petit.co.kr/

Apgujeong Seoul Plastic Surgery

*Real Cosmetic Clinic (great reviews)
http://www.realcosmetic.com/english/

*Grand Surgery
http://www.grandsurgery.com/

WonJin (using, translate, I noticed this clinic was listed here: http://blog.naver.com/dorcus_lee?Redirect=Log&logNo=140141851098, which is an unverified site)
http://www.parkwonjin.co.kr/

Hus Hu (popular place for skin)
english.hus-hu.com/sub/dermatology_clinic/dermatology_clinic.html

Migo (KBS TV actresses)
http://www.migoclinic.co.kr/

Swan (did an actor’s jaw)

ID Hospital (specialize in facial bone)
http://eng.idhospital.com/en.asp

*Starline
http://starlineclinic.com/www_user/

Midam

Shin Seung

Samsung Line
http://www.ssbeauty.kr/

*Before & After Clinic
http://www.bnaclinic.com/html/ind.php

*Opera Plastic Surgery
http://www.operasurgery.co.kr/

*Dr. Yang
http://www.dryang.co.kr/

*Face Line
http://www.face-line.co.kr/

Item Plastic Surgery (Kim & Chung)
http://www.itemclinic.com

O & Young Plastic Surgery
http://www.koclub.com/


And if you can’t go to Korea for surgery, check out:

Kenneth Kim (Los Angeles, high reviews on Yelp)
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meihualinReview14 Sep 13100
Hi Everybody,

I had surgery at Dream and I am pretty happy with my results. But, I would like to increase my fold height to make my eyes look bigger and get a bigger dpi done.. Just wondering, if anybody went to Teuim, how much did they charge you?

Thanks so much guys!!!
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melanieoneRumor21 Jan 15100
Dr. Song Hong Sik is at Apgujeong branch on apgujeong station exit 5.I think the website http://en.e-dream.co.kr/ is the main branch at apgujeong station exit 3. They are not connected to each other because the doctor are differnt. This website is the main branch one. They have Dr. Park Yang Soo, who I heard is a very famous for eye and nose surgery. I heard from my Korean friend that this main dream branch is popular among celebrities but they don’t advertise this to the public.My friend said this one also famous for natural results and very popular among Korean.
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meliwaaReview15 Jun 13100
Right now it’s 9AM and I will be going to Chungdam U at 2 to have my nose cleaned. Since I have a few hours to burn I’ll try to write all about the clinics I went to first. It’s been a while and there’s a lot information so I’ll try to recall as much as I can.

Oh I highly recommend you guys get a T-Money card and download the seoul subway app on your phone. Me and my mom arrived at Apgujeong at about 10:20 though we were supposed to meet Nicole at 9:50 because we got lost on the subway. Dream is very close to the exit, maybe about a five minute walk.

Forgot to mention at the beginning I for sure wanted tipplasty and and alar reduction for bulbous nose. Possibly zygoma reduction. My bridge isn’t that low, but it looks that way from the front view and glasses tend to slide off my face, so I didn’t think fixing it was necessary BUT.

Dream
They’re on the second floor of a building, fairly large classy reception area with large windows overlooking the main Apgujeong street. We waited for about 20 minutes before a consultant led us to a private room to talk. She was really friendly and cheerful. I asked about zygoma reduction also but she said I actually had fairly small cheekbones so I decided to drop the case from then on. She drew what they would do to my nose on a clipboard and explained the process. Then she left and we waited for the doctor. It was cold so after a while she led us back to the reception. She also mentioned the doctor would be conferences for two weeks so if I didn’t book the next day the soonest I would get to see him is June 24 and then gave us the business card with her number to call her. Maybe 10 minutes later we met with the doctor. He spoke some English. I asked about alar reduction and he and the consultant did not recommend it for me. Just raising the tip would dramatically change the shape. They would be using septum and silicone I think. For lateral canthoplasty, tipplasty, and rhinoplasty it was 5,000k won without bargaining.

Pitangui
Fairly close to Dream, really extravagant reception. They had a white grand piano there and I think a girl who just did surgery was also waiting. I could see she did eyes but she looked rougher than I do today. The consultant arrived and though she was nice, she looked rather…alien. Her nose was rather small for her face and her eyes were really long. She said lateral would not do much for my eyes because the bone was close, so I should also cut downward to make them rounder and more feminine. She said alar reduction was fine too. When we met the doctor he explained again all the processes. I think they said they would use ear cartilage in the tip and a piece of septum in the area between the nostrils (can’t remember what it’s called) to prevent it from drooping. I can’t remember if he mentioned bridge but eyes and nose would be 3800k won.

View
View was farther away so we had to take a taxi. It’s on multiple floors of a building. There were many girls waiting in the reception area, which was smaller than the other two. I looked through View’s B&A books and there were many dramatic changes, Nicole said they were good for facial contouring. I can’t really recall the consultant but the doctor was the most well-spoken in English. He asked me where I was from and said he would do his best. He didn’t recommend I do alar nor lateral. I THINK he said he’d put ear cartilage in the tip and reinforce with septum to prevent it from drooping (different from Pitangui though), silicone for bridge. Rhinoplasty + tipplasty was 3300k won I think.

Chungdam U
We also took a Taxi there, it was harder to find because it’s off the main road. We arrived early so we looked through their B&A books while we waited. There was something Laser V-Line, which Nicole said she would recommend to her future customers. Our consultant was maybe in her 40’s. Since Chungdam U has had a dermatology floor downstairs, we asked about freckle removal for my mom first. There were two types of lasers,the primary one that would remove the freckles is called CO2, after they fell off in 5-7 days she could use another one for skin whitening and reducing the little bumps on her skin. Time was a constraint so we just paid for the primary one first which would be 800k. Then we got to me and she flat out said that lateral would not be worth the money in my case. She touched my face a lot and it felt more personal than the other clinics. She didn’t think alar would be necessary either. The tip would use layers of car cartilage in a sideways C position on the top of inside of the nostrils. which she drew in a diagram. There were many plastic implant models in a clear box. I inquired about the Laser-Vline and she touched my jaw and asked me to clench my teeth. She said we should put botox in it to reduce the size but after hearing how young I was, instead said I should go for the less invasive V-line, which would reduce muscle and then they would pull the skin back. My mom refused however. When we met the doctor, he spoke English but slower and repeated what the consultation told us. He asked if I had a nose in mind; I didn’t because I just wanted one that was natural and would fit me. I asked about the nose drooping later on because they weren’t using any septum but he said the way they layered ear cartilage would prevent that from happening. He also picked up an implant model and laid it on my nose and let me see how it would look like in a mirror. It was straight with and slightly curved at the end, very natural. The implant would be silicone and would fix the very slight bump I on my nose. He said he would let me see my nose right after the operation to make sure I was satisfied and less chance of revision. After that we got into a room with the consultant and after much debating it was decided 4300k for nose, 700k for my TRM laser, and 800k for my mom’s freckle removal. Nicole said she reduced the price of laser so she couldn’t lower the nose. Oh and the V-Line would be 2500k.

Overall
Out of these clinics, there’s not one that I wouldn’t recommend you go see if you like them. My personal ranking would Chungdam U > View > Dream > Pitangui. Chungdam felt more personal and I really liked that they told me the truth about lateral and alar reduction; I mean they’re not just out to make a buck right? Though they’re more expensive, they really stood out with the plastic models. I’ve known and liked View for the longest time and they didn’t disappoint. I felt most comfortable with that doctor, the price was really good, and I also liked that he told me no lateral or alar. Dream was good also, though a little more expensive. Now that I look back on it, I think Pitangui tried to push more procedures on me. I think if you’re not careful you might end up with “Gangnam Girl” face. They’re not bad, you just have to keep your feet planted on the ground.

Woo and I am finished an hour later. I’m really lazy right now so please excuse any grammar mistakes lol unless they are really bad/confusing (please tell me so). Also after I paid Chungdam me and my mom went down to the dermatology floor for the laser treatments. Our skin isn’t finished so I can’t tell you the results, but I’d be happy to tell about the actual procedure if anyone’s interested. I’ll try to type up the operation experience at Chungdam soon…
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meomeo_blRumor8 Mar 11100
I am going to Seoul on 10th with another member on the forum
my family member is living there (she doesn’t speak well Korean but her friend will help us) We are hiring my cousin’s friend for the translator
The transalator is my cousin’s best friend she helped us in finding good PS in Seoul

Hope this helps
was looking for the information about the clinic list that you gave to me
these are the short summary that i’m searching for.

—–must visit
http//www.vipps.co.kr/vip_eng/ -> well known in Korea for nose
http://www.koclub.com/ -> O&Y famous and

—— go and check
http://blog.face-off.co.kr/bbs/vod.asp Abgujung Seoul Plastic surgery (Dr. Lee)
http://www.bandoeyeps.com/inc.php?inc=intro/intro_eng Bandoeyes (Dr. Cho)
-> only do the eyes. famous and good review at the eye part,
http://www.teuimps.co.kr/info/info01.htm – no review in the website or plastic surgery community . only on their website, let’s just visit here and see

—um.. have many bad review or have bad reputation
http://www.banobagi.co.kr/ -> well known for bust, not popular for nose. In the black list in plastic surgery community for hiring too much broker.
http://www.nose.co.kr/english/main/main.asp -> too many bad review.
http://english.bkdy.co.kr/ BK clinic (Dr. Kim, the director) -> many people who went there for counseling said that this clinic likes money for example, recommend only expansive way, not the way that client want, or need. if it’s one person’s review I don’t think bad way but, many people agree with this idea. and some people had to get a surgery again for the mistake of the doctor
—————
the three clinic at the bottom, i think it’s better to visit BK clinic but not others,



and here is the list that i recommed.,
www.dreamsurgery.co.kr – my friends did a nose at here, and it looks very nature and pretty,
jwbeauty.com – same reason for the above ,

and i will contact with the friends of my mom tomorrow,
< who knew the plastic surgery very alot, and knew many famous doctor (one of her hobby is introduce the hospital to friends and watch the before and after )
she will give more specific information [and more realistic and helpful]

price is depending on the clinic, and the surgery way that you have to do or that you choose
and we could know it when we go and visit
if you decide the hospital then i wll make reservation before you come^.^~

sorry for the late mail. and plz check the mail that i sent you before and give me the answer that i wrote


P.s Tell me the place that you want to visit [or you could tell me what you want to do, for exampe visit traditional or famous palace- shopping- dining ….] then i could search for it for you!
have a good day.
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miame44Review14 Nov 17100
I had my rhinoplasty revision done at Dream by Dr. Park. I have been doing my research for over a year before I made my decision set for Dr. Park at Dream. First, he only does closed rhinoplasty which he is an expert on close rhinoplasty and double eyelid which I had it done by him too. I am very happy with my result and the surgery went really well. I did not have much swelling. Which I was surprised Vs. my first rhinoplasty. I travel from the US to South Korea and stayed for 7 days. The price is absolutely by far the most reasonable for this kind of expertise job. Is actually the best price and best job I have consultations though out in Korea Plastic clinics.
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miame44Review10 Dec 17100
The reason I pick Dream is Dr. Park is so well known for his expertise in closed rhinoplasty. And I really like the surgeries room is very updated like the US standers. Dr. Park’s hand are very gentle most likely you do not bruise from the closed rhinoplasty. I didn’t bruise and I heal in about a week. And I didn’t have a big cover-up only a few tapes were placed. I actually went shopping after my surgery. Although is not recommended. But it was like a nose express. 123 done. You get your beautiful nose done. Dr. Park also uses rib but is donors. The price is not that much different. I was a revision patient. I had my first rhinoplasty done 15 years ago in the US and somehow it was shift to the left side. Not straight anymore. And it was Gore-tex is a much harder martial than the new generation silicone plus tip was my ear cartilage. So I decided to go to Dream have its revisions. Dr. Park does speak some English. He will ask you what is your ideal goal? You can either show him a picture or show him how you want your nose to become. Then he will explain how he will do it and what material he is going to use and he will draw a picture and show you most likely the result will be like. You can tell from the consultation he had full confidence. Yes, the result is very good. I am very happy for my pose up one month result. He is very booked. I would suggest you book couple months early.

I really dislike like Wonjin, Is actually on one of my blacklists. I visit it and the place is so outdated. And the surgery room is so dirty. Lately, I just heard someone died in that clinic. I know exactly why? First of all, They do a lot of commercial at their clinic. But the problem is you don’t know who is the doctor going to perform surgeries on you. Is not what you think the main surgeon. They will tell you is going to be him. But once the surgery starts you going to see two different doctors then you are out completely. Please read many reviews on Wonjin before you decided to do your surgeries there. FYI! they are very pushing. I really wouldn’t recommend at all. Also, another place is called DA is also on my blacklist. This place is not a safe place for surgeries.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/april-31-or-mvp-rhinoplasty.957991/page-2#post-31882668
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miame44Review13 Mar 18100
This is my nose revision at Dream. Done by Dr. Park. I was told if I want it higher tip DA head surgeon is good. Dr. Park at Dream tends to give you a very natural look. nose.jpg But I am still not sure Dr. Park said he can add two more ear cartilages on top of the tip to give me the result that I really want. I was going to do it this time. But I had endo forehead lift and SMAS facelift. So I thought I give it a rest first.
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miame44Review24 Mar 18100
I had mine done at Dream Clinic by Dr. Park DES with left eye ptosis correct. Did both eyes but only correct the left side. DSE eyelids.jpg
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miame44Rumor13 Mar 18100
Dr. Yoo at the Dream he is really good for forehead lift actually one of the best according to all the staffs working at Dream and I have also done my research that he is very good with the forehead lift. But for SMAS facelift I don’t hear so much about it. He is still lack of skills since he is very young. But I know he is really good with a full forehead lift and under eyes surgeries. Yes, is very important to find the best surgeons instead of going to which clinics?
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miame44Rumor13 Mar 18100
If you want to do zygoma go to Dr. Kim, Young Joon. He is really good with zygoma reduction. Evey one in Korea knows him. I even ask My facelift doctor who is the best Facial Contouring doctor. One thing I love about Dream is the price is very reasonable and the surgical rooms are very well up to date. Yes, Dr. Kim is the head surgeon at Dream for Facial Contouring. Do not go to Wonjin my friend had a bad experience with Wonjin. You will never know who is performing your surgeries. And recently people died there. And she had her zygoma done there was horrible she says she still feels the pain. And My other friend went to Dr. Kim and turn out to be so beautiful.
Facial Contouring
Facial Contouring
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/smas-facelift-best-surgeon.964902/page-2#post-32122444
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mickelyReview20 Sep 15-100
hi guys,

day 3 post op at dream with dr park. close primary rhinoplasty, tip extension, alar reduction and bridge augmentation. Attached is the picture of my current nose. I am extremely worried about the asymmetry of my alar/nostrils. I know it is still swollen at the moment but my nostrils and alar are at a totally different height!!! It was perfectly symmetrical before the operation. Did anyone have similar experiences?
20150920_174226.jpg
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mickelyReview7 Nov 15-100
Hey guys just wondering when can one expect to see the final results of their close rhinoplasty? I had silicon for bridge and ear cartilage for tip with Park. Also anyone had issues with bridge being raised all the way to the eyebrow level? A normal Asian bridge shud stop at eye level. It looks so weird. Now I feel the need for a brow lift Becuz of it…
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-plastic-surgery-with-dream-medical-group.867732/page-44#post-29409857
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migookinamja
Review29 May 11100
Hi,

I was in Seoul last week. I’ve been to Korea 8 times for business, but never thought about plastic surgery there until now. Interested in a rhinoplasty I came across this forum on a google search. I checked out some of the clinics frequently discussed on this forum as well as *tried* to go to some of the more Korean clinics. I’ve chosen to go back to Seoul at the end of June and have my surgery at Dream with Dr. Park Yang Soo.

I went to Dream, OZ and VIP.

1.)Went to OZ first. This clinic is on the main shopping street in Gangnam, not exactly far, but not near the other clinics that are all clustered near the apgujung subway station. This clinic suprized me that it was kind of small and not really busy. I saw Dr. Park pretty quickly. He speaks pretty decent English, we talked about my nose and I liked what he had to say, not trying to make my nose perfect (I’m a guy). Price was pretty good at 3.5 mil won which is about $3300

2.)Went to VIP next which is in the Apgujung area (might technicaly be in shinadong but right on the border). I met Joann who has a great personality and is charming and funny too. She talked to me a lot about what the surgery would consist of including more detail about what Mr Park talked about. This impressed me and concerned me at the same time because she was not the doctor but was telling me what seemed like a lot of details about the surgery. I met one of the doctors, but Joann told me that he would not be the specialist working on me – I would have to come in the next day when he was available. I felt fine talking to this doctor (I forgot his name, but I think there are only 2 there). The next day I came in and talked to Dr. Lee in his penthouse office that actually looks pretty sweet. Joann accompanied us. I felt pretty good about Dr. Lee but Joann speaks better English than he does and they were both telling me about how my nose was messed up and they could make it better. They said I had a septal deviation that they could fix, but I didn’t even know my nose was crooked. I breathe great but they were assuring me I could breathe better! Joann told me the cost was $4700 (quoted in dollars) and I could stay there some days for free in their officetel if they had room. I felt pretty good about the competency and the operation they were running there, but it seemed like there was a bit of an upsell as I didn’t feel I needed or wanted a septal correction. Lots of people moving through here, I heard the employees speaking Chinese and one of them had an American accent.

I tried to hit some of the other Korean places. Some of them are in huge buildings that take up the entire thing which pictures of all the doctors working there. I know I went to Clinic 9 and Grand which have some of the hottest chicks I’ve ever seen working the front desks. Unfortunately they speak less English than any one I’ve seen in Korea (which is saying something). And I couldn’t even get past the first line of defenses to see the doctor.

Finally I came across Dream which I don’t know why I did, but I think I may have seen it mentioned in passing in this forum. Again the staff did not speak English, but they tried to understand what I was saying instead of just right off the bat rejecting me. They gave me a form to fill out which was all in Korean. Fortunately these were words I knew and I specified that I was there for my nose. BTW- waiting room here was pretty busy. After awhile I met the counselor who said I would have to come back to see the nose guy in about an hour. When I came back I met doctor Park and had a wonderful consultation. Maybe he could see that I had a little bit of a deviated septum and he asked “do you have trouble breathing?” I said no and he said “ok, good that means we don’t have to go deep and we can do a closed rhinoplasty” (good no upsell). I also asked him if he did a lot of caucasian noses. Instead of telling me “yeah, yeah no problem” he said “honestly we don’t see a lot of caucasians, but the ideal nose is similar, but the starting point is different”. Dr. Park explained everything in the perfect amount of detail without trying to sound overconfident (as I’ve had surgery in the past I’m on the look out for the overconfident ones). I searched him online and the clinic comes up #2 on google when you search for plastic surgery in Korean. His price was also $3300 (3.8 mil won discounted to 3.5 mil won). So I’m going there!

As far as accomodations. I don’t believe there are any full service English speaking hotels in the Gangnam area that are cheap (like $50 or below). I stayed at Fox hotel for a night which is in gangnam near Seoul National Uni for $70 a night and it was pretty cool with free wifi and free snacks. I think you can go cheap with short stay apartments that I’m guessing run $30-$40 a night if they have availability. If anyone is interested in sharing a room let me know! I really would like someone close by the first night in case something happens. I’m thinking I’ll get a room near cha hospital which is maybe a mile down the road from apgujung. I’ve had experience going to that hospital and I heard it’s well known in Korea (although more for baby deliveries).
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/dr-kim-at-bk-hospital.871028/page-10#post-19071210
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migookinamja
Review6 Jul 11100
Seriously, What the hell am I doing. Doing it this way so I can take them down anytime I want. Dr Park at Dream, 7 days post op. Got my splint off in LA today (so pics are from today) before’s are from Dream milliseconds before surgery. Endonasal technique that Dr. Park likes. I drove 800 miles today thinking constantly about my nose. Looking at my before’s again I’m really starting to like my new nose and it’s naturalness. I think Dreams style is understated, they make you better looking but still recognizable as you. I see this throughout their operation. Their building is not like a 5 star hotel like Grand is. Receptionists are not particularly hot

Front:
https://www.onlinefilefolder.com/1sClMSbEd4qSzp

Left Profile
https://www.onlinefilefolder.com/1sRbzuRY6u37YD


Right Profile
https://www.onlinefilefolder.com/1sHFfILY4QOnov
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-2.532179/page-466#post-19394287
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migookinamja
Review28 Jul 11100
One month post op (today)

https://www.onlinefilefolder.com/1sICILhgmnEH6g

I’m satisfied so far. I wish nothing would really change now. I don’t want my tip to drop anymore 🙁 It is still very hard and when I twitch (?) my mouth I can really tell. My hump I don’t really care about any more, I didn’t realize how much the tip projection and definition mattered.

Since my lipo probably made all my torso fat offline and I’ve been sitting around for a month, I now have J.Lo’s ass.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-2.532179/page-513#post-19529106
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migookinamja
Rumor29 Jun 11100
I think this is as close to asian as I’m ever going to look. My radix area is really wide. For the swelling did vip give you guys anything? They aren’t giving me ice or anything. I think it might be because of my ostiotomies that they don’t want me to put pressure on that area.
I’m in the recovery room right now and I REALLY know what this ceiling looks like. My surgery time was 7.5hrs, I hope that give me an honrable mention on the rib stackers list.

I found from several sources (the most recent very reliable) that dr. Park did the noses of several members of SNSD. I think they look cute but not gorgeous so I had faith that he wouldn’t go all wild. With that in mind I told him take care of the tip and hump and I don’t care if I look like a totally different person. I can already tell that is what he did. It is not a subtle change. I guess I will se how I like it in a week. I can’t belive tha I’ve ben staring a this miror for this long.

Now for useful information for forum members. Dr park said that he DOES DO autologus and donor rib rhinoplasty. He totally won’t talk price so I will ask the sales lady next time I see hber.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-2.532179/page-445#post-19341639
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migookinamja
Rumor30 Jul 11100
I talked to the guy that works for my company in Korea. He said:

Dr. Park is very famous astethic clinic in Gangnam area. Especially, many actor and actress like &#49548;&#45376;&#49884;&#45824;, bigbang etc. they had a surgery from him.Nose and eye is his strong field. I did’nt know that he is such famous in idol groups.

He’s a ~50 year old Korean guy who knows nothing about plastic surgery so I have to assume he DID find it on those Korean websites.

However, I would only say he would be able to find a rumor, or a fake forum poster, etc…

When I was in Korea, someone at one of the clinics told me in person the same thing without me having brought it up. Probably doesn’t meet your high standards of credibility DJJ, but unless the celebrity or management told you personally I don’t know any higher confidence you’re going to get.

Still no email from you…hmmm.…
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mindy3132Rumor11 Dec 15-100
I’m sorry – I didn’t do my rhinoplasty at Dream, after consulting there I didn’t feel like it was the right clinic for me.

I was replying to Kathey since I mentioned one of my friends who went to Dream was charged extra for ear cartilage harvesting for her primary rhinoplasty and she already paid 4.2M. I was clarifying which Dream clinic she went to. I’ve never heard of such a thing before, clinics usually charge for donor material and not harvesting your own tissues.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/experience-with-local-pricing-vs-foreigner-pricing.928601/page-2#post-29553505
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misssweetyReview14 Jul 15100
Hi Everyone, I am writing about my plastic surgery (ps) experience in Seoul. A lot of people on this forum tend to disappear after their surgery, leaving no feedback for the rest of us. Whilst the information on purseforum is varied and at times flawed, I want to give back to the community that got me started on my plastic surgery experience. My goal is to give an HONEST review, and just maybe shed some more light on the world of ps in South Korea.

On the 9th of July, I consulted 3 different clinics for rhinoplasty: April31, Dream and Banobagi.

My Objective: Natural looking enhancements of my old nose. Some of the issues I had with my nose included: short nose, nostril visibility and low bridge.

April31: This was my first consult. Firstly, I?ll say that the English translator, Brian, is a really nice guy and very helpful. I had to wait awhile to see Dr. Kim and Brian made good company.

My consultant, her name eludes me now, was very pretty. Furthermore, she was forthright about what I needed in terms of my nose, I appreciated that ? I don?t care for fluffing about. As a pedantic girl, I had a lot of questions, which she happily addressed with Brian translating.

Eventually I got to see Dr. Kim. Is it weird to say that I got star struck? Lol. I?d seen him so many times on the April31 website, and it was a bit surreal seeing him in real life. Dr. Kim has a friendly demeanour and was thoroughly approachable. He was sufficiently proficient in English, albeit when I couldn?t quite understand him Brian was there to translate. I showed pictures of noses that I liked and what I did not like. It is important to be realistic. I did not expect to have one of the noses I liked plastered on my face. The pictures were simply a guide. I also had pictures of myself on which I scribbled my desire changes ( this is useful if you, like myself, are clueless when it comes to photoshop). After a lot of touching and pinching of my nose Dr. Kim recommended tiplasty, silicon augmentation, septal extension and alar rim graft. Since the last procedure is lesser known I will briefly explain what it is: an alar rim graft is usually performed to address alar rim retraction (where the alars are abnormally short thereby causing excessive nostril visibility). My case of retracted alars was mild to moderate. As will be mentioned below, the two other clinics did not suggest alar rim graft; both believed that septal extension alone would be sufficient to reduce my nostril visibility.

Banobagi: My next stop was Bano. The English translator I had was Stella. She was very sweet, and cute. My consultant was Mary; she was friendly, and pointed out that I had a nice forehead LOL. All the consultants were very attractive, and I could tell that most of them had their noses done; this is unsurprising as I was told that the staff get 50% off procedures.

This was the only consult where the clinic took my picture which I thought was neat. It meant Dr. Lee had my pictures to refer to in our consult, save me from pulling out my own. The consult with Dr. Lee was very brief. I have read things about Dr. Lee being rather curt, but I did not really find that to be the case. He was merely succinct and to the point. He recommended tiplasty, augmentation and septal extension. In contrast to Dr. Kim (April31), Dr. Lee didn?t feel that I had excessive nostril visibility, despite this being one of my primary concerns. He assessed the visibility of my nostrils as being down to my short nose alone, compared to short nose and short alars.

Something I really appreciated about Bano was that it was the only place that went through the risks of rhinoplasty with silicone implant. Going into the consults, I was already very aware of the risks and knew what I was getting myself into, but nevertheless it was refreshing to see a clinic tell potential clients of the risks.

Dream: This was my final clinic. I was so exhausted by the time I got here. Jasinee was my translator, and she was very, very sweet. I found her very genuine and just wanted to put her in my pocket lol. Like my consultant at April31, my consultant at dream was very to the point and business like. She recommended tiplasty, augmentation and septal extension; there was no mention of alar rim graft. However, something she did point out that my nasal bone might need shaving down otherwise the implant wouldn?t sit properly and make tip too high. My meeting with Dr. Park was brief. He had just come out of performing an operation. He wore a mask on the entire time-not sure why. Regardless, he was sufficiently pleasant and answered my questions. There was an emphasis on ?natural?, which was right up my alley.

The Decision
At the end of the day I had narrowed my choices down to Dream and April31. I did not choose Bano because I didn?t feel like I knew enough about the clinic to make an informed decision, it was one of my last minute d consultations. Additionally, I found it a little odd that Dr. Lee didn?t think my nostrils were excessively visible.

That evening, I messaged Brian from April31 and told him that one of my other consults suggested that I need bone shaving. I expressed concerned as to why that wasn?t something Dr. Kim suggested. Subsequently, I went in the next day for at CT scan at April31. It turns out that it wasn?t bone but cartilage. The same consultant from the day before and Brian then explained to me the process of shaving cartilage.

Even after the CT scan at April31, I wasn?t entirely sure who to go with. Both Dr. Park at Dream and Dr. Kim at April 31 are held in high regard. However, I ultimately opted to go with April31, because nostril visibility was a primary concern and Dr. Kim recommended alar rim graft. Fixing retracted alars is a complex procedure, and I believe that if Dr.Kim didn?t have confidence that he could do a good job he would not have recommended it.

Day of surgery:
I had my surgery on the 15th of July.
The night before surgery I wrote down a list of things to reiterate and ask before my operation. In the operation room, before signing my consent form, I went over this list with Brian and Dr. Kim. I was adamant that the implant was not to be any bigger than 3.5 mm, and that I wanted a natural looking nose. At one point, Dr Kim placed his hand on my shoulder and told me to trust him, which was reassuring.

I went under local anaesthesia and IV sedation. I remember talking to Brian while lying in the operation room; he kept talking to me which helped abate my nerves. Eventually I must have fallen asleep, and when I woke up I was in the recovery room.

I was very lucky to wake up with my friend and Brian next to me. I recommend having a companion if you are planning on doing surgery in Korea. Of course you can go by yourself, but I think it?s nice to have that emotional support. Before changing out of my operation attire, Brian instructed us on my medication and post-op care. My friend and I took a taxi home. But first we popped by a convenience store. Contrary to my expectation, people did not so much as bat an eyelid at my bandage swathed face.
I was also able to get pumpkin juice from a pharmacy just down the road from April31. And in terms of food, there is a porridge store right around the corner from where I am staying; Pumpkin porridge ain?t too bad ~

Now girls (and guys), I?m going to get real with you, my nose hurt like crazy; specifically my alars, which I assume was a result of the alar rim graft. Every other part of my nose felt okay. I will not lie but I did shed some tears. I am pretty sure that without the alar rim graft my pain factor would have been significantly lower ( let?s just hope the pain is worth it, ey?). Luckily, the pain subsided after taking some painkillers.

Tomorrow, I am going in for my first post-op check up. I will make another post in a couple of days!
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MollyMillionsReview11 Aug 13-100
Hello everyone,

I just wanted to make a post about my experience in Seoul getting my nose procedure. I’m korean american, I’m staying with my immo (aunt) in Seoul. I’m not that great at korean so she took me around to help mediate the translations. I’m 23, and I would describe my face as more round than angular. Also a bit long. My nose is on the flatter side, nostrils are roundish. My relatives always tell me that my features are pretty, but my nose could use a little lift :oh:. I went to 5 different clinics and decided on Semin.

Banobagi http://www.engbanobagi.com/
Atmosphere: very futuristic, modern, and clean. The ladies who worked there all wore cute uniforms and were polished and groomed. Some were very pretty.
Consultation: This was done by some random lady. She was very very sweet (too sweet?), but also aggressive in a way. She was clearly skilled at negotiation. She suggested I have some other procedures done but wasn’t too pushy. I was also able to see the treating doctor which is always a good sign. I believe his name was Dr. Hyeon Taek Lee. He was such a smooth talker, very flashy smile. Made me a little apprehensive, but I don’t doubt his skill. He suggested that I get a silicone implant, tie my septal cartilage together with a strut, and add in my ear cartilage as the tip. In addition, he suggested fracturing my nose bridge and bringing them closer together! That frightened me a bit. I wondered if it’s necessary. The price: ~$5,500.

Barbie
Atmosphere: This place looked nice, but definitely not as high end as banobagi. Definitely smaller. We heard about this place because my cousin’s friend got a nose job here. all the girls who worked there had ridiculous noses. I was already a “no”.
Consultation: The consulation was done by this sleazy man (who turned out to be a doctor? I don’t htink so…). we asked to see the treating doctor and he was surprised. They also didn’t post up the doctor’s credentials. It didn’t say where they went to medical school. I heard that some doctors in korea doing plastic surgery actually never go to medical school. We did eventually see him, but i’m just like uh-uh. no way. he suggested a gore-tex implant, bring in septal cartilage, and ear cartilage tip. cost is ~$2500.

Dream http://en.e-dream.co.kr/
atmosphere: This building was also very nice. Kinda the same experience as banobagi, but a little less up-scale.
consultation: We had a consultation with a nice looking doctor (not the treating doctor though). He was very kind and listened carefully. he suggested a silicone implant, bring in septal cartilage (don’t remember if he included the strut..) and ear cartilage tip. no nose bridge fracture required! we weren’t able to see the treating doctor because he’s very “famous” and it’s true, i looked it up online. he’s very well-known. His name is Dr. Song Hong Sik. also when we talked to one of the assistants after, we had a hard time setting up a “potential” procedure date because he’s busy traveling to china for other procedures. I liked their before and after pictures. it looked very natural and pretty. cost is 2300! pfft. fracturing nose bridge my Richard Simmons. At this point we were pretty interested in this place.

Grand http://eng.grandsurgery.com/
atmosphere: this clinic was probably the swankiest of all the places. Very nice decor, very pretty ladies. Everything just looked fantastic.
consultation: we had to wait 30 minutes past our appointment. They’re so crazy busy. (not a good sign). we finally saw a nice lady. She was very good at “selling” Grand. To be honest, she was so enthusiastic about everything, it was hard to trust her. especially when she said things like, “I swear blah blah this” or “In my honest opinion blah blah”. By this time, we were pros and we could see through all the BS. Remember ladies – more swanky and more expensive does not mean better. She suggested a silicone implant, tie septal cartilage with a strut, and ear cartilage tip (same same). cost: $2800. Because they were 30 minutes late we were nearing our next appointment time. So we asked if we could be excused and come back later to see the treating doctor. She said sure. Little did we know we would not come back because our next appointment settled it all.

Semin http://semin100.co.kr/eng/main/main.html
atmostphere: the place looked very clean, modern, and professional. Not glitsy and glamorous, but beautiful. I think that was the look they were going for.
consultation: We immediately saw the treating doctor. We were shocked. He joked with us “What? Are you saying I have too much free time? Hahaha” Dr. Hong Jong-Wook was straightforward and honest. Not sickly sweet or arrogant. He listened very carefully and took the time to explain everything. Another thing that surprised us is that he took out binders full of pictures of his work and pointed to each case and remembers so much detail about each one like “This was my friend’s son so haha you know, I was very emotionally invested in this case” or “this woman naturally had a high bridge so i put in blah blah blah…” and so on. I told him I wanted a stronger, taller nose and he suggested surgiform over silicone. It’s more fitting for someone who lacks a high bridge. I asked him what is the rate of infection for these procedures and he gave me an honest answer: 1-2 cases per year. I looked up complication rates in modern asian rhinoplasty in a peer reviewed journal (I’m a graduate student in neurobiology so I’m very familiar with seeking out trustworthy sources). Complication rates for surgiform or PTFE implants are around 2%. This includes implant deviation, revision, or infection. So 1-2 cases per year is pretty damn good. Other clinics (like banobagi) probably lied to us and said with a smile “in 14 years, there has never been a case of infection” i mean come on. We talked for a while so that he had a good idea of what I wanted. He suggested surgiform implant, septal tying with NO strut, and ear cartilage tip. He said the strut is not necessary and causes a hard nose. It is necessary for girls who want really high noses. Remember ladies, sometimes these clinics make you think you need all these unnecessary procedures just to increase the price. Less is more. So iI learned from Semin: nose fracturing and struts are not necessary.
Afterwards we talked to a nice lady about the logistics. price: $3,800. We had our hearts set on this place, my aunt bargained it down to $3,200. We felt like we could trust these people. We were ready. She said we could have a procedure as early as the next morning. Dr. Hong doesn’t pack his schedule like other doctors. He does a few cases per day. We agreed.
procedure; I arrived in the morning. I wasn’t afraid, I’ve been wanting this since I was 14. We met with the doctor one more time for about 15 minutes to make sure he understood perfectly what I wanted. Then a warm looking nurse prepped me. She was very kind and friendly. I found out later her name is Yi Joo-lee (something like that, but anyway, she’s awesome. I saw her multiple times for checkups/shots etc.) I was pumped full of silly drugs and I was probably giggling during the surgery. It was over before I knew it. Afterwards, they guided me to a nearby bed and told me to rest for a while. I heard other places just give you the boot – how barbaric. My aunt came in and exclaimed that my nose was beautiful. I guess this was before the swelling kicked in. This got me excited.
recovery: The first day was painful, but tolerable. Honestly, it wasn’t as bad as I thought it’d be. I slept day and night. I lost my appetite which made my aunt worried, but it came back the next day. The second day, I swelled up like a balloon. I was barely able to see through my eyes, but the pain was almost completely gone. I’m on my third day, the swelling rapidly declined and the shape of my nose is starting to show. I’m really pleased. It looks amazing. I can’t wait to have my bandages and stitches removed in a few days. I’ll keep you updated on my progress

Anyway some things I learned that I want to pass onto you ladies (and gents):
More expensive, more procedures, more advertised/beautiful/busy clinics does not mean better results.

clean your nose before consultations! They will get all up in there – seriously.

Be prepared to discuss exactly what you want. They can’t read your mind. Bring pictures if you think it will help.

Always ask to see the treating doctor, how else will he know what you want? Check doctor’s credentials. Make sure they graduated from an MD program and have years of experience in plastic surgery.

You can negotiate the price. Be firm.

Go to more than one consultation (my last was the winner!) Shop around. Make sure you’re comfortable.

When you’re about to go through with the procedure, don’t wear any makeup! You won’t have a chance to remove it effectively afterwards and it just gets yucky.

Feel free to ask me any questions. I’ll try to respond! 🙂

:heart: MollyMillions
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monodealReview28 Jun 13-100
A couple of pages before, I said I got my eyes done at Dream. I got the non-incisional + epi done and these are some pictures of the process (I was too lazy to upload before)
This was right after I got the surgery done (yeah, it looks kind of horrible)
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This is exactly 2 weeks after the surgery (You can notice that they are uneven because of swelling and also because the doctor made my crease a little bit higher on the left eye -don’t know how to feel about that atm, don’t even want to think about revision) Also, excuse my zit haha.
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Eyes closed -also at 2 weeks
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I’m just patiently desperately waiting to see how they will turn out. I’m a little nervous because the crease lines seem soft or what I mean is, it’s not very deep >< I guess all I have is time on my hands. PATIENCE. sigh.
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mrsluckyReview14 May 14100
Please forgive for my english grammar and spelling because english is not my first language, and I hope you can understand what I write.

On the 12th monday after lunch I go o the 3 clinic of my choice for consultation.

I go to Life first because i have appoiment with him, the doctor was trustworthy, he knows his stuff, he was nice and I was told that he used to be an ent surgeron with the government hospital, he look young but I am very happy of his suggestion of the procedure of how to do my nose revision,

After Life I go to JW but the doctor I want was outstation so I was attended by other doctor whom give the same advice like dr Kim of Life.

After that I go to dream clinic, and I waited for a long time because the sales consultants are all very busy and I see a numbers of people. Anyway I manage to see mrs Lee and request to do consultation with dr Park the next day and also ask if he can operate me the same day.
I am also happy with the price quotation. Its much cheaper than JW but Life gave better price. But the end of the day I choose dream because I know Dr Park good reputation.

I fast from 10am and at 1pm I meet dr Park and i trust him to do the operation for me.
Daphene from Singapore have been there for me to pprepare for the operation, when I was put to sleep and after I woke up. She is a sweetheart, I am not scared at all because I know im in good hand, I am just scared of needle so the head nurse use the tiniest needle for me.

My ear cartilage was harvest by different dr and dr Park fix my nose, throughout the surgery I was in and out of consousness. When ever I am aware I request them to put me back to sleep..

When I woke up, my dear mystiqueaura from this forum was there waiting for me. She took me back to the hotel. I am so lucky to have her with me in this ps trip to korea.
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mrsluckyReview21 May 14100
My cast and stiches was removed yesterday 8 days after surgery. Maybe because its still swollen it still look like my old bulbous nose.

Dr Park said its still swollen and will take about 3 weeks to settle down, i was advised to use the nose cast at night for two months. I hope my nose will look better soon…

The aculift works for me…no more turkey neck for me.
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mrsluckyReview22 May 14100
This morning I see dr Park of Dream for the last time, the reason why my nose still look so bulbous was because its still swollen due to my nose thick skin, it will take a while for it to look better. Anyway do I feel that my nose look a little bit smaller and the bridge look better then my old nose.

Btw today I was told that I dont have to use the nose cast only the nostril retainer.
I hope in 2 weeks time my nose will look much better.
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mrsluckyReview15 Jun 14-100
I woke up while Dr. Cho was harvesting my septal cartilage too. I could feel her scraping away and i keep on asking them to put me back to sleep… i keep on saying i can feel the pain and its so painful even though its not, i just don’t like to hear the scraping sound and tugging of my nose… 😉 its too much for me..
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mrsluckyReview15 Jun 14100
I am happy that you’re are pleased with your nose and i hope your mom’s nose will look much better soon and she will be happy with it.:smile:

Actually i want to update in 6 month times when most of the swelling goes down, but since you ask.. 😉 here goes..
its been a month and 2 days since i did my revision, my results are exactlly like lemonpeel, i am not proficient in english so its difficult for me to explain until lemonpeel helps to put what i had in mind into words/writing :smile:.

The good thing is as days goes by, my nose look much better and i feel its kinda cute on me 😉
i just wish its smaller and the tips are more define because looking from the front it still look too bulbous for my liking but i guess with my thick bulbous nose its hard to achieve what i had in mind..

I had L shape Silicone from my primary and the tips are at wrong place making my nose had this pollybeak deformity and drooping Nasal Tip. I think my primary nose bridge height are just right for me because according to Dr Park i can have higher bridge, but i request to maintain the bridge height but request for more projection and definition on my tips since its to bulbous/fat and depressed and to remove something that blocking my right nostril.

I do think Dr Park did a good job, i am grateful that my nose look much better then my old nose and i can breath much better. My daughter keep on saying it look nice. Hopefully in 6 month time the nose tips will be smaller and i will update again. Thank you.
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MsahpuiReview15 Jun 14100
Fraulein, I don’t know much about noses but I remember seeing your post about your friend having done a nice surgery and another forumer saying that his contact who was working at 2 ps clinics recommending dr paik and not the doctors at his own clinic. Thank you for sharing!;)

101 plastic surgery:
While I was tempted to skip my consultation with Dr paik as I was far too ambitious in trying to cover 8 clinics in 2 days *(i ultimately dropped April 31 because I was smitten by Dr paik and I dropped real because they never ever got back to me).I remembered your posts and I was also so touched by Dr paik’s sincerity as he had been replying personally to my emails since a month ago and when I had to reschedule his appointment to my second day, he was still super polite about it.

I know that b&a photos are not everything but having seen all the photos from the following clinics, I wasn’t impressed at all until I saw Dr paik’s work on revisional cases and short noses my nose; (. Practically all his noses in the pictures look like my ideal dream nose! His noses are so natural and he manages to make bulbous Short noses look refined and sharp. Amazing!

Lastly, they didn’t give me any discount even though I was doing my lipo too Dr chu (executive director of the Korean society of rhinoplasty surgeons) said that they gave foreigners and locals the same prices! I saw only Koreans on my visit there .I asked another skin clinic I had visited about Dr paik’s prices- she was amused and said these guys weren’t lying -I had local prices:smile:yay!

That pretty much nailed it by the way he is so hot that I go to beg him to try to reschedule stuff to fit me in . It took him a day to work out something but I’m going to do my nose next Friday! ! Phew.

Clinics i consulted with:
In the past 2 days, i have consulted with Dr son fron regen(regen had apparently poached him from wonjin and bk recently), jw (Dr suh), dream (dr park and dr i forgot his name but he does open rhino, lipo and ba) ,banobagi (Hebe apparently said the doctors would only see me if I confirmed my surgery ) , the line plastic surgery (forgot the Dr’s name but sincere and humble), 365 Mc and Dr paik and Dr yi from 101 plastic surgery.

Regen:
I have good impression of regen (loved both the rhino and lipo doc, took time to explain procedures to me, hear me out and manage my expectations plus both of them had more than 10 years of experience in their specialization) .The coordinators Kathy and sun were so lovely and I nearly confirmed my surgery with them but when dr paik said he could do my op, I dropped regen right away-(price difference between regen and 101 for all my procedures was about 2m won)

I basically liked every clinic I saw but because I was doing lipo on my thighs abdomen and armpits in addition to my nose, having an experienced lipo doctor played a major part in my decision making.

Dream:
I loved dream’s daphne and Dr Park but I Felt That The open rhino Doc might not have been able to lengthen my nose as much as I wanted-he was very honest and sincere and super worried about over stretching my skin. I appreciated his honesty but I guess I dropped dream in the end because the doctor looked youngish so I didn’t dare to let him lipo my fats .away;*(

Thanks k, I did tell daphne and Ms Lee that I was at dream because of your experience and they were very nice throughout the consultation and did try really hard to give me a good price:smile:

Also, thanks for posting so such detailed posts and sharing your experiences. Dr park and Dr paik are really amazing I can’t help but feel amused that Dr park said if I trusted him, I should not do my alars as my nose should look fine after bridge augmentation. Dr paik actually said the same thing. He went further and explained that the risk of getting alars which are not up to expectation(uneven etc) after alarplasty is pretty significant so he advised against doing it if one could avoid it. Thank you so much K Couture and Fraulein. I hope my nose looks good next friday;)

Jw:
I loved jw’s Dr suh and Nancy but I somehow agreed with one other forumer that his tips aren’t that nice-looking (my own perspective). Dr Suh was very patient and the lipo doc was nice but again youngish……
Nancy was really honest too.didnt try to over quote me. Oh by the way when I was really desperate to look for another doctor when Dr paik initially wasn’t able to operate on me, I asked his colleagues Dr chu if Dr suh (jw)was reliable and good for noses. .haha. He said definitely but he reminded me that i had to make my own judgment according to what kind of noses I would like to have:smile:. All surgeons have a preferred method…

The line plastic surgery:
I had a very good experience. Loved the English coordinator-honey.their prices were so high…. and she actually agreed that that was a really common complaint that she couldn’t do much about. Honestly I quite liked all their photos and their doc took time to explain to me. Price was the factor for dropping them off my list .

365 mc: I had mixed feelings. Their English coordinator took eons to reply to my mails and I had to resort to reading and writing in my horrible mandarin to the Chinese department boy they were really fast! I dropped this clinic because they would only let me do 1 part at a time …. which wouldn’t work for me as I still wanted to do my nose. Their total price for lipo came up to 11m won, more expensive than dream, jw and regen maybe because I did bargain quite hard at these places.

Also, because I was rushing for time during my consultation, they overstated my measurements as they were rushing -this resulted in a difference of a whopping close to 5m won. But i gave feedback to the very nice chinese coordinator straight away cos i remeasured my own parts when i got back to my apartment and she promptly rescheduled my appointment. SO guys please be careful when you go for measurements try not to be in a rush!

Leaders clinic: fat grafting, cheek chin lipo will post more on this in the fat grafting forum. Was kinda like an impromptu thing for me:smile: much like accusculpt to k:smile:

Sorry for the super long post but I really wanted to contribute back to this forum!! It’s my second post, I still can’t start a new thread so sorry K for piggybacking on you on this thread”)
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ngalaxieeReview12 Sep 14-100
I’ve been quite active walking around since about day 4, yes (I had jaw surgery too so it was hard to go anywhere the first few days). And I’ve been actively drinking pumpkin juice at least twice a day since day 5/6. Swelling went down a big yesterday but it seems to have gone up again!

I was told NOT to ice my eyes because I had fillers (Restylane) done. Thus so far I only iced them once. Is this true? Can I ice filler areas?

Tomorrow I’m having my final checkup before I fly. I anticipate stitches in my mouth will be removed and checked over. I will have to voice my concerns to the surgeon: one of my eyelids is higher than the other and on that same eye the aegyosal fillers has disappeared. In place of the filler I seem to have either a really red bruise or bleeding under the skin…don’t know. I hope to get that eye re-filler-ed before I fly. I paid for it after all!
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ngalaxieeReview29 Oct 14-100
1 ½ month update:

I’m really pleased with how my jaw turned out. I mean, they said it could take up to 6 months for the swelling to go away — but I’m already happy with what I see in the mirror now, and if across the next few more months my jaw gets slimmer and slimmer then I’ll just be even more happy hehe :3

The botox they gave me to my jaw muscles helped a lot too! A lot of my friends have pointed out that I look different in a good way, but they also just dismiss it to loss of weight, which means I must look natural! Big whoop-whoop 🙂

Hm. My eyes though. I’m like half and half on this one. The swelling has pretty much gone away now, which is great because I don’t look like an alien anymore. My left eye is pretty perfect. Natural looking. No scars.

My right eye though…sigh. It’s clearly not the same as my left (about 1mm higher, which doesn’t seem like a lot but actually it makes a heckload of difference visually) and so it always looks slightly more swollen until I balance it out with makeup. Thank God for makeup.

But it sucks because I never wore that much makeup before, and now I have to wear it everyday to correct a mistake that shouldn’t even be there in the first place. I took surgery so I could have bare face days and still feel confident~ and this turned out the complete opposite! There are scars too~ along the crease-line, small pinkish marks where my sutures were.

Oh, and my aegyosal fillers. UNEVEN. What is this with the whole unevenness with my eye area, especially the right eye?! Again, left eye perfect, it’s cute and puffy and exactly what I wanted. With right eye, it’s as if there aren’t any fillers in there. My right undereye is the same as before. SAME. I’m really sad because I paid so much extra money for the fillers. *cries*

Taking all this into consideration, I believe that my surgeon was really great with my jaw (he is a maxillofacial specialist after all!), but also that I probably should’ve asked for two separate surgeons to be assigned to me, because the two procedures I had are totally different and on two different areas of the face. And maybe the right eye is my surgeon’s blind spot? I don’t know.

Nevertheless, I would still highly recommend the clinic, and my surgeon (for jaw procedures). Everyone there treated me like a princess and I was really well taken care of. The whole trip was literally painless and even though I complained about my results, I guess I should be happy because they’re not super serious, and could probably be fixed with the tiniest tweak here or there (which I’m planning to undertake next year).

Some tips from me:

> Do loads of research
> If you’re a major pushover like me, write down everything you want to ask the surgeon beforehand and bring the notes with you so you won’t forget.
> Never, never be afraid to ask questions, even the big and scary and daring ones. It’s your face after all. Believe it or not, I’d probably avoid most of my mistakes if I had asked questions and confirmed what I wanted with the surgeon.
> Always, always bargain the price down. Even if the price they offer is already lower, BARGAIN IT DOWN! You’ll save yourself a lot, and it’s good to have plenty of money leftover in case something goes wrong.

Man, looking back…I’m such a naïve looloo seriously.
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ngalaxieeReview29 Oct 14100
1 ½ month update:

I’m really pleased with how my jaw turned out. I mean, they said it could take up to 6 months for the swelling to go away — but I’m already happy with what I see in the mirror now, and if across the next few more months my jaw gets slimmer and slimmer then I’ll just be even more happy hehe :3

The botox they gave me to my jaw muscles helped a lot too! A lot of my friends have pointed out that I look different in a good way, but they also just dismiss it to loss of weight, which means I must look natural! Big whoop-whoop 🙂

Hm. My eyes though. I’m like half and half on this one. The swelling has pretty much gone away now, which is great because I don’t look like an alien anymore. My left eye is pretty perfect. Natural looking. No scars.

My right eye though…sigh. It’s clearly not the same as my left (about 1mm higher, which doesn’t seem like a lot but actually it makes a heckload of difference visually) and so it always looks slightly more swollen until I balance it out with makeup. Thank God for makeup.

But it sucks because I never wore that much makeup before, and now I have to wear it everyday to correct a mistake that shouldn’t even be there in the first place. I took surgery so I could have bare face days and still feel confident~ and this turned out the complete opposite! There are scars too~ along the crease-line, small pinkish marks where my sutures were.

Oh, and my aegyosal fillers. UNEVEN. What is this with the whole unevenness with my eye area, especially the right eye?! Again, left eye perfect, it’s cute and puffy and exactly what I wanted. With right eye, it’s as if there aren’t any fillers in there. My right undereye is the same as before. SAME. I’m really sad because I paid so much extra money for the fillers. *cries*

Taking all this into consideration, I believe that my surgeon was really great with my jaw (he is a maxillofacial specialist after all!), but also that I probably should’ve asked for two separate surgeons to be assigned to me, because the two procedures I had are totally different and on two different areas of the face. And maybe the right eye is my surgeon’s blind spot? I don’t know.

Nevertheless, I would still highly recommend the clinic, and my surgeon (for jaw procedures). Everyone there treated me like a princess and I was really well taken care of. The whole trip was literally painless and even though I complained about my results, I guess I should be happy because they’re not super serious, and could probably be fixed with the tiniest tweak here or there (which I’m planning to undertake next year).

Some tips from me:

> Do loads of research
> If you’re a major pushover like me, write down everything you want to ask the surgeon beforehand and bring the notes with you so you won’t forget.
> Never, never be afraid to ask questions, even the big and scary and daring ones. It’s your face after all. Believe it or not, I’d probably avoid most of my mistakes if I had asked questions and confirmed what I wanted with the surgeon.
> Always, always bargain the price down. Even if the price they offer is already lower, BARGAIN IT DOWN! You’ll save yourself a lot, and it’s good to have plenty of money leftover in case something goes wrong.

Man, looking back…I’m such a naïve looloo seriously.
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NilesyReview3 Sep 15-100
Dream Medical Group
The interior is very nice. It was a tad confusing as I wasn’t sure if the elevator was working but the way up via the stairs didn’t work either because the door was locked so, basically, take the elevator.

I had a consultation with Daphne, who’s very pretty and was friendly and willing to negotiate on prices with me. Yeah, not much else to say lol. Then there was Jasinee who kind of turned me off Dream, simply because I’d read in one of K Couture’s many posts that you could simply ask for a CD copy of the CT scan rather than having to do it multiple times at each clinic (because who wants cancer?).

I was told by Jasinee that I’d need to pay, like, 100,000-150,000 for the CD which I thought, frankly, was a bit silly. I mentioned K Couture in passing and her own experience and Jasinee said she’d go ask. Not even one minute later, she came back and changed her story and said she could give me a discount on the CD…. “just for you.” It went on like this for a little while til the price was eventually whittled down to about 50,000. In the grand scheme of things, it’s quite trivial but it did leave a bad taste in my mouth and was part of the reason why I didn’t choose Dream. That said, your mileage may vary.

I had consultations with Dr. Park Yang Soo for eyes and nose and Dr. Kim Young Joon for facial contouring. Dr. Kim was friendly, and is apparently very skilled, and I felt comfortable asking him questions.
While I don’t doubt Dr. Park’s skill, I felt a bit rushed during the consultation, almost as if he wanted to get it over with as quickly as possible. That isn’t to say he’s horrible. I can understand that he’s probably answered the same or similar questions many times over but for me, personally, I didn’t feel entirely comfortable.

I had to wait a while for my quotes, which resulted in me being late for my next consultation at April31. As I said before, Daphne was willing to negotiate.

Initially I’d wanted to get fat graft, but I’m very skinny. She gave me two quotes based on what I wanted (I have typed out what she wrote down for me and this includes discounts for multiple procedures and it’s all in ):

A) 13.4mil for non-incisional eyes, TCR, closed rhinoplasty with rasping and a chin implant
Rhino – 400,000 > 340,000
Rasping – 80,000 > 60,000 TOTAL: 520,000
SEG – 150,000 > 120,000

TCR – 320,000 > 280,000
Non-incisional – 180,000 > 160,000

Chin implant – 440,000 > 380,000


B) 16.1mil for non-incisional eyes, TCR, closed rhinoplasty with rasping and sliding genioplasty
Rhino – 400,000 > 340,000
Rasping – 80,000 > 60,000 TOTAL: 520,000
SEG – 150,000 > 120,000

TCR – 320,000 > 280,000
Non-incisional – 180,000 > 160,000

Sliding genioplasty – 750,000 > 650,000
Nose, Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-experience-in-seoul-april-2015.920308/#post-29119480
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NilesyReview3 Sep 15100
Dream Medical Group
The interior is very nice. It was a tad confusing as I wasn’t sure if the elevator was working but the way up via the stairs didn’t work either because the door was locked so, basically, take the elevator.

I had a consultation with Daphne, who’s very pretty and was friendly and willing to negotiate on prices with me. Yeah, not much else to say lol. Then there was Jasinee who kind of turned me off Dream, simply because I’d read in one of K Couture’s many posts that you could simply ask for a CD copy of the CT scan rather than having to do it multiple times at each clinic (because who wants cancer?).

I was told by Jasinee that I’d need to pay, like, 100,000-150,000 for the CD which I thought, frankly, was a bit silly. I mentioned K Couture in passing and her own experience and Jasinee said she’d go ask. Not even one minute later, she came back and changed her story and said she could give me a discount on the CD…. “just for you.” It went on like this for a little while til the price was eventually whittled down to about 50,000. In the grand scheme of things, it’s quite trivial but it did leave a bad taste in my mouth and was part of the reason why I didn’t choose Dream. That said, your mileage may vary.

I had consultations with Dr. Park Yang Soo for eyes and nose and Dr. Kim Young Joon for facial contouring. Dr. Kim was friendly, and is apparently very skilled, and I felt comfortable asking him questions.
While I don’t doubt Dr. Park’s skill, I felt a bit rushed during the consultation, almost as if he wanted to get it over with as quickly as possible. That isn’t to say he’s horrible. I can understand that he’s probably answered the same or similar questions many times over but for me, personally, I didn’t feel entirely comfortable.

I had to wait a while for my quotes, which resulted in me being late for my next consultation at April31. As I said before, Daphne was willing to negotiate.

Initially I’d wanted to get fat graft, but I’m very skinny. She gave me two quotes based on what I wanted (I have typed out what she wrote down for me and this includes discounts for multiple procedures and it’s all in ):

A) 13.4mil for non-incisional eyes, TCR, closed rhinoplasty with rasping and a chin implant
Rhino – 400,000 > 340,000
Rasping – 80,000 > 60,000 TOTAL: 520,000
SEG – 150,000 > 120,000

TCR – 320,000 > 280,000
Non-incisional – 180,000 > 160,000

Chin implant – 440,000 > 380,000


B) 16.1mil for non-incisional eyes, TCR, closed rhinoplasty with rasping and sliding genioplasty
Rhino – 400,000 > 340,000
Rasping – 80,000 > 60,000 TOTAL: 520,000
SEG – 150,000 > 120,000

TCR – 320,000 > 280,000
Non-incisional – 180,000 > 160,000

Sliding genioplasty – 750,000 > 650,000
Chinhttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-experience-in-seoul-april-2015.920308/#post-29119480
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Ninja21Review7 Nov 14-100
Dream ( i rate 3out of 5)
I had appt with them via email. On my appt day i arrived early but waiting time was around 40 mn. Mi yeong lee was my consultant.she recommended me to do zygoma reduction acculift and fg to correct my jawline around my chin area.she was nice friendly and she showed me her b&a photos after her zygoma reduction. I requested to see doctor kim BUT she said I needed to pay for xray to see doctor kim!!!!!!!and it cost $50 i felt ripped off lol and they charged me again another extra $20 for copy cd . After looking at my xray, dr kim suggested me to do zygoma reduction and fg to fix my jawline . He claimed that his technique prevents the sagging from zygoma reduction.he seemed rush and barely touched my face just my chin . They quotes me 7.5mil for zygoma fg 2,200 acculift 1,500 and would discount 10%if I decided to do there .
Cheeks, Fat Graft
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/plastic-surgery-clinics-in-korea-read-1st-post-before-posting.864175/page-102#post-27630576
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OneTrackMind
Review11 May 15-100
I had sliding genioplasty at Dream August 2014. My current jawline has an indentation on either side of my chin.

Here is what I mean: http://s2.postimg.org/42t9cyd3t/IMG_5081f.jpg (my pic)

Here are some pics of people who have the same problem after genioplasty (not my pics):

http://www.realself.com/files/332819-163395.jpg
http://fi.realself.com/full/49daf855ee3f117d90d78e7f16f7c40f/2/3/d/userimage-586401.jpg
http://fi.realself.com/full/72f64c6bb57dca10feb316310d052fed/6/4/7/userimage-586402.jpg

These indentations create a “crooked” impression because my chin sticks out and makes my jawline does not look “smooth” (as in there are indentations around my chin).

Does anyone know of a doctor who can fix these indentations permanently?

I consulted the fc doctor from DA. I asked if cutting the protruded part of the chin or cutting jaw more to smooth out the jawline is possible. He said a revision surgery would “not make a lot of difference” and is “not worth it.” He recommend fillers to fill out the indentations instead; but I want to fix this permanently.

Thank you.
Chinhttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/indentation-after-genioplasty.905387/
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owlgoreReview6 Oct 16100
I just put down my deposit for incisional DES, rhino and fat graft at MVP. Surgery date is next Wednesday. I decided that I will document my experience for you guys because I am all nerves about it and it is helping me relax.
Desired eyelid crease: Medium parallel (out-fold)

The clinics I visited before I made a decision: TL, Banobagi, Wonjin, JK, Teium, JW, MVP, Dream. I actually wrote very detailed consultation summaries for each clinic, notes on doctors, and happy to share if you PM me. My shortlist ended up being: JW, MVP, Dream. I spent two weeks total visiting all the clinics.

I put a deposit down at JW, but the earliest slot they had was Oct 21 which is a little late for me. They are currently completely booked for the month. Emily at JW is great and super sweet, and I still did my eyebrow tattoo and mole reduction + laser skin treatments. Too early to tell how the skin stuff is going, but they got me to do aqua injections which hurt like hell and I don’t think I could go through it ever again. I will say, skin seems glowy-er now. The eyebrows — love how they came out. However, I was a pussy and scared of them being too dark, so against their advice I only did 2 coats. I figured there is a free touchup which I can do in another couple weeks, so might as well err on the safe side. But I am seeing now that I was probably way too conservative and should have let them do at least 3 coats. Great shape though, and I think JW does a great job with 4D eyebrow stuff.

I liked JW because everyone is so friendly, and the wifi is excellent. Excellent wifi is very important to me. Also, I heard good things about their nose and eye surgeons, I like that each is specialized, but they couldn’t get me morning time slots, and they also couldn’t find a way for me to have both eyes and nose surgeries on the same date.

I am kind of relieved that it happened this way. Dr. Choi (DES specialist at JW) recommended partial incision technique and I just feel I have some extra skin that probably full incision would be more precise and better at removing. I am still a little torn about whether I should get my nose done at JW because I liked Dr. Suh’s rhino plan, although, it is really hard to know what the “right” plan is, not being a surgeon myself and all. Dr. Suh recommended alarplasty and nose bridge silicone implant along with tip-plasty. My goal is to shorten the length of my nose, and while this is not technically possible, you can make it appear shorter by lifting the tip a bit, not make it so droopy. I also want it to be narrower, but natural. More button-nose than angular.

I visited Dream because it was so close and I heard they can do “dolly” eyes which I guess is more what I am going for. I thought I had conservative taste until I came here. I wear circle lenses, double eyelid tape, heavy dark eyeshadow and false lashes every single day. It is an art project every morning. I am seeking to streamline that morning routine so that I don’t have to cut out little eye tape shapes every morning. I enjoy doing makeup like, and would like to be able to apply it like a normal person.

I honestly loved Dream when I first visited. First time I went, they gave me a Chinese translator and I realized how bad my Chinese really was. I wasn’t able to communicate efficiently or confidently so I requested another followup with the English translator. I saw Dr. Park for nose and Dr. Won-Jae Yoo for eyes. I liked my consultation with Dr. Yoo so much that I almost put a deposit down right after it, but the consultant told me to make sure what date I wanted and get back to them. Dr. Yoo was extremely thorough in his consultation and spoke some English which was helpful. He took his time to explain exactly why and how he was going to do the double eyelid. He recommended incisional DES, without epi, and was confident he could do a medium parallel crease. I love Dream because the waiting room is so comfortable, chargers everywhere, and of course, excellent Wifi. I decided I should probably stop letting Wifi quality factor into my decision.

After Dream, I walked over to MVP for my second consultation. I had seen Dr. Hyun previously for eyes, and this time I requested to see Dr. Seo because of all the reviews on this thread. Mindy the English consultant is as wonderful and bubbly and charming as everyone says she is. She makes me feel so comfortable, even though I was originally at some point going to rule out any doctor that did not speak English. My original thinking was that one of the most important things is that the doctor understands exactly what I want and I was not sure they could, if there was an extra layer of communication between us, kind of like playing a game of telephone. But Mindy is probably one of the best translators and communicators I met in my adventure here in SK. She made me feel very confident the doctor understands what I want and she is translating exactly what he says each time.

I ended up putting deposit down for surgery date with Dr. Seo for both eyes and nose because he showed me the exact crease I wanted in like 2 attempts, on both eyes. He made it seem so easy and that he was so confident that he could do it. I don’t know if I am putting too much emphasis on the crease that the doctors show me in the consultations, but I figure that if a doctor can’t show me the crease with a tool, how is he going to be able to make me a crease via surgery? I feel much better if the doctor is able to consistently reproduce the crease I like and show me what he can do. Since I can’t speak Korean, this gives me great confidence to be able to see the visual. I think I am going to go back tomorrow or day after to see Dr. Seo again and learn more about the rhino because I am still a little confused as to exactly what type of alarplasty and tip-plasty and osteotomy he is doing. But I chose him for nose too, because I don’t want implants. I like the shape and height of my nose already, I just want it to be more well positioned on my face.

I also prepared a very thorough Google Slide deck that details my medical history, all the research I did about each surgery and how I think each one will be done (so doctor can confirm my understanding), what I hope to achieve with each one and pictures of what I like and don’t like. I think visuals are the most helpful in bridging the language gap, and I will probably have a friend translate all my text into Korean for me as well, just to be sure. I am happy to share my deck with some people, but it’s something like this:

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MVP was able to meet all my silly demands for a morning 9am time slot…do all my surgeries all at once. They don’t seem bothered if I need to come see the doctor as many times as I need to feel comfortable. I am very neurotic, but they indulge all my OCD-ness without making me feel the least bit guilty. The only thing I will say, is that the Wifi sucks, and that is a bummer.

I am distracting myself with prepping for the big day, prepping for post-op, figuring out how to communicate the designs I want as clearly as possible. I’m actually starting to have fun with this for the first time. This has been agonizing for weeks, and now that I have pulled the trigger on going with MVP, it almost feels like I already had the surgery and it went really well lol. Feeling manic about it, but they really made me feel like – how could it possibly go wrong. I hope it pans out the way I am willing it to, and will continue to keep this thread posted! 🙂

Also I have no idea when I am leaving Korea. I just decided I will stay here until I like my face better.

@MissOrange @smitten_kitten thanks for posting your reviews. I have no idea if you are real people who wrote about their 100% real experience or just excellent marketing, but either way, you made me feel confident in this decision, and therefore happier, and that’s the point of all this anyways, right? ?
Eyeshttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/smitten-kittens-surgery-at-mvp-other-reviews-and-experiences.913622/page-12#post-30691484
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ParisyuanneReview22 Feb 16-100
Based on my experience in dream plastic surgery thr after care service is not good as well. Im very sad with thr result of my nose now. My friend notice that my nose is not align i mean its assymetry. Im now started to look for a very good plastic surgeon who can make my nose very pretty but i need to wait 1year before i can make my nose again. I hpe you guys do the research first before you finalized where you will be getting your nose done.
Aftercarehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-plastic-surgery-with-dream-medical-group.867732/page-45#post-29868516
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ParisyuanneReview22 Feb 16-100
Hi last year november 2015 i had my rhinoplasty and fat grafting surgery at dream plastic surgery clinic with dr. Kim young joon. And i thought they are the best clinic among all the clinics i went to. And its been 3 months now since my surgery and in still not satisfied with the result of my nose because my nose is deviated it turns out assymetry and i started contacting the person incharge because im coming back next month march 2016. Very dissapointed. Im not satisfied really. And not not planning to do any revision in dream plastic surgery.
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-plastic-surgery-with-dream-medical-group.867732/page-45#post-29868503
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ParisyuanneReview4 Mar 16-100
The doctor is always in hurry. While your jn consultation with them i was blinded when they offer be a good price that time i had a consultation with them. And during the after care too. The nurse is the one who remove the bandage of my nose i think the doctor should do it instead. Even when the final checking of my nose dr. Kim is always in hurry. 🙁
Aftercarehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/my-plastic-surgery-with-dream-medical-group.867732/page-46#post-29917679
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paxskyReview30 Jun 14100
Consultation at Dream:

Sorry this took so long but to be honest, i’ve been depressed and didn’t feel like writing or doing anything. i thought i was fine with my decision not to do plastic surgery after all my consultation, but it hit me a couple of days ago that i will not be going home looking any better than i came. i had been planning this trip for months, gathering resources, scraping together the money, running around buying this for my recovery not to mention the countless hours reseaching, doing photoshop on myself, and dreaming of my new look. and it has all come to nothing….

when i used to be depressed at work or leave the house not looking the way i wanted, i used to cheer myself up by thinking about my trip and throw myself into research or activities involved in planning and preparations. sometimes it used to be the highight of my day. the one friend and now my cousin are the only ones that i told about possible PS and both don’t get it; they keep telling me that i look fine and don’t need it. of course, most people don’t “need” it unless it’s reconstructive. it’s for self improvement. i don’t think anyone would have problems if people decided to improve any other part of their lives, but why is improving your looks through PS considered almost a shameful thing? we had no control over how what we were born with, so why is it bad to change aspects of something that we didn’t choose and don’t like? sorry for the rant but i think society is hypocrital because improving your looks through PS is seen as a negative and yet those who are deemed beautiful get treated better, have instant advantages and power over those arent’, so i don’t understand the stigma attached to pursuing through our own efforts and resources something that some people got at birth essentially for free…
again, sorry for the rant. below is my review of consultation at Dream, finally! lol

After bolting out of DA, we decided to take the subway to Dream, to experience/ get me used to using the subway. There is a subway right in front of DA, i think the line # is 9. anyway, while in the subway, bought and uploaded to money to T-money from one of the vending machines (has English options), and took Line #9 and transfered to #3 and got off at Apuejong and Dream clinic is only several feet away. Dream has several floors in the building and we got off the 5th floor, which was for surgery, i think, and had to go back down to floor 2, which is the consultation floor.

of the three clinics tht i visited, i liked dreams decor/ ambiance the best. it’s kind of similiar to Evermn- modern, clean, polished, but dream is more sophisticated and elegant. the staff kind of reflected this. their uniforms were navy and fitted- very polished and slick. there was a pretty young petite receptionist who checked my appointment. there seemed to be slight mix up w/my appointment and there were at least 7 people waiting. about half seemed to be Chinese, but I had expected this because it’s a larger clinic with several doctors… i had wanted to see dr. kim, the chief facial contouring specialist, but he was busy and wasn’t available for consulting. they wouldn’t go into reasons. because there were several people ahead of me, they said i could try waiting or rebook the appointment, or see someone else. then we were asked to sit and fill out their form. they highlighed in pink all the mandatory sections. it wasn’t long, but i should point out that there is a section lists the names of all the surgeons there for you to choose. so yo definitely have a choice at least that was on the korean form. if you don’t have it on yours, you should definitely ask. with all the stories of big clinics doing doc swaps and randomly assigning doc to patients, i found the option to choose reasurring…
after filling out the form, we sat in the waiting area . there’s a free self serve beverage and cappaccino bar, which we took advantage of. wasnt’ really happy with the mixup, but at this point, but it was my last consultation and for some reason i just didnt care. anyway, aside from the mixup, my overall impression of Dream was that it was elegant and professional. not as warm and casual as Everm or cold or impersonal like DA, but somehwere in the middle. we kept ourselves busy by watching one of the monitors at our waiting section that was showing, what else, a plastic surgery show. others were showing k-pop stuff- i dont think this was a coincidence because although there were several monitors at different sections of the waiting area, all were some type of plastic surgery shows or kpop set to mute, and music was playing through an excellent sound system that seem to come from the ceiling I think it was Chopin; for me it was very pleasant and the waiting didn’t seem so tedious. the only thing to pick on from a design/decor point of view were the chairs. they seem to be ivory leather but they seem to have seen better days because the cushion part where you sit looked literally like someone smeared mud and tried to rub it off. it was like this for all the chairs- “sectionals”, so i’m thinking it’s accumulated dirt.

as we were waiting we looked around to see if anyone looked like they were coming in for post-op treatment. the only one that came in that kind of looked that way was a tall pretty girl who looked like she could have been a member of a kpop high school girl group because she still had her uniform on, but she had hike up her skirt to make it look like a miniskirt. she looked like an anime character but not in fake way, which is hard to explain. the only weird thing was her lips that seem to stick out like a duck beaks. it looked cute on her but not natural. we wondered if that was a side effect from one of her surgeries. Other who were waiting looked anywhere from 20-30s. THere was fancy-dressed Chinese mother and daughter pair who were smiling and seemed excited and I was thinking- wow, that would never be my mother; she would kill me if you knew what i was up to.

anyway, after waiting about 40 minutes, my name was called by the tall attractive (not fake looking) consultant and she led me to her office that was next to the waiting room. the word that comes to mind about the consultant is “professional” and kind of hard to read. not cold, but she knew what she was doing. she asked me what i wanted and said facial contouring and explained the whole mixup w/doc and how i wanted to consult specifically with dr. kim. she kind of repeated what the other girl said about how he’s may still be surgery and that there were people ahead of me, etc. she then did something none of the other consults, which was actually try to suggest procedures that i hadn’t considered, but not in pushy way. she asked if i noticed some fat loss around my eye and nose/mouth lines. i said i did, but didn’t think it that bad. she said if I can’t see dr. kim today for facial contouring, would i like to see another doctor about fat graph? my cousin and i looked at each other and i said no only because it wasn’t something i had not even considered and didnt know much about. my consultation experience at dream is anti-climatic because we got tired of waiting, and said we would rebook but i still havent’. not because anythign the clinic did but because of my own doubts about getting PS.

even with the mixup, my consultation w/dream is favorable because it seem to be an experience clinic with doctors tht know that they are doing, and they give you the option right on the form to choose. it’s not too big and not too small and it’s hard to explain even though i didnt’ even get to the consultation w/the doctor, but i just got a good “vibe” from the place even though i shouldn’t have with the mix up and the consultant suggesting procedures. it’s hard to explain. anyway, if i change my mind i would definite consider dream again…
Facial Contouring
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/anyone-had-surgery-done-at-dream-medical.847916/#post-27011353
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Peach23Review19 Apr 15-100
Hi K Couture

First of all , I’d like to thank you for sharing such a comprehensive and informative information regarding Korean plastic surgery .

Among all of the research and countless blogs I read , yours is the most impressive one! You rock! &#128079;&#127995;&#128077;&#127995;&#10024;&#10024;&#10024;&#10024;&#10024;

I am new to this so u hope I didn’t click the wrong button and end up writing a comment on a wrong feed. &#128513;

My family invited Dr. Park for a future possibility of partnership in jakarta. I met him back in December 2014 , had a consultation then did my own research in what he had suggested to correct my typical Asian short nose.

Thanks to you, I booked an appointment and had my rhino and double eyelid suture + ptosis correction 2 weeks ago.

I was tempted to Kakao you , but I thought sharing my experience may benefit others. I hope.

I have millions of post op questions for you K.
Daphne is such a sweet lady, but now the clinic is short staffed in english speaking translator , so I don’t want to piss her as I already asked too many questions. I will just wait for a couple more weeks before I start bugging her and Dr. Park again &#128514;&#128514;&#128514;

To correct my short nose , Dr.Park did a tip plasty with septal Extention graft and ear cartilage for the tip.

Since I have a mild septal deviation, my nose looks a little crooked and slightly deviated to the left. Back on December when I consulted with him, I asked how best to correct the deviation. He said adding an implant would solve it. I asked him if I need to shave my bone or had a septoplasty, he said no breaking bone and no need septoplasty. An super soft implant in the bridge will mask the deviation.

The day before surgery , I met Dr.Park and showed him X-rays of my panoramic dental x rays to give him some rough ideas of how deviated my septum was. After discussing a few more details , we decided to use either 3 mm to 4mm ultra soft silicone implant for my bridge . And I requested him to sculp me max tip projection that my nose can handle and of course a natural result that proportional with my other facial feature . ( I don’t mind sending you picture to your Kakao talk)

Now I am 16 days post surgery. It looks like my major swelling has subsided. I read that our tip will swell much longer and asymmetric tip swelling is also common

However , since the beginning of the time when the cast was taken off up until to this point , I have always notice that my bridge is stil not straight . The tip is centered, but the bridge is still slightly curved. What’s worse, because my nose is now higher and the tip projection is now more pronounced, the deviation looks more obvious than my pre op nose.

Was your tip swell asymmetrical as well a few weeks post op?

I love my nose from the side view. The tip projection is good. But I would love it to be a little sharper. Is it because I am still swelling . Will the tip get sharper as the residual swelling improves?

I still have my millions questions, but I think I will start with these two.

Thanks for reading K! I hope I didn’t give you a vertigo by reading my long chatty feed! &#128517;&#128517;
Get well soon !

Xoxo,
Peach23
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/k-coutures-guide-to-seoul-plastic-surgery.886985/page-14#post-28420102
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Peach23Review23 Apr 15100
Hi ncred

I just had mine 3 weeks ago at Dream Clinic with Dr.Park Yang Soo. He did septal extension and dorsal augmentation . I still have residual swelling but I am quite happy with the result so far. I have yet to see the final results in 2 months time , then I can really say if I really got what I asked him

Hope this helps ?
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/looking-for-good-plastic-surgeons-in-seoul.707503/page-45#post-28439975
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Peach23Review23 Apr 15100
Hi Wishingstar

I just had septal extension and dorsal augmentation with ultra
soft silicone 3 weeks ago at Dream with Dr Park Yang Soo as well.

I have quite a thin skin , so my superficial swelling has completely gone down and only very little residual swelling left mostly on my tip. Now that i think my bridge has gone back to its original size, except higher and more defined, I didn’t see any dent at all, it fact it is very smooth and rather tight.

I asked Dr.Park about the shelf life of this ultra silicone implant, and he said it is forever. I also asked him about infection risk. He mention that within one week to ten days of our stays in Seoul, we will have at least two post op care where he checks our nose ( I am sure you had your twice as well), and he will be able to tell right away if there is any sign of rejection.

I also read somewhere about risk of calcification where calcium deposits may grow around it, and his respond was nil. I don’t really remember , but I think this calcification may form on some other type of implant.

If you don’t mind me asking, what made you decide to have your primary dorsal augmentation with diced cartilage mixed with fat? Were you originally reluctant to use artificial implant?

After reading the link that you gave, the article mentioned about asymmetrical nostril height.
My nostril is very slightly asymetrical to begin with, and thats due to my mild septal deviation (the right one is slightly higher than the left one) . Now that the tip is still swelling, it becomes a tiny bit more asymmetrical compared to pre-op. Did you feel that your nostril which Dr.Park was operating (the right one because he is right handed) was some what higher at the beginning when you were still swelling ?

I hope my sharing is helpful and thanks for sharing as well! ?
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/silicone-nose-implant-can-you-see-a-dent-and-does-silicone-last-forever.900444/page-2#post-28440994
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Peach23Review23 Apr 15100
I think he does. But I am not sure if he produces good results. I had double suture revision with ptosis correction and I love the result. He does exactly as I requested . Outfold and tapered.

As for incisional double eyelid, my cousin met and consulted with him last year . Dr. Park flew in to my country as part of our plan to collaborate with Dream . She wanted to do revision on her incisional double eyelid. She wasn’t too happy with her old eye job (dr. Woffle Wu from Singapore did hers) and Park was suggesting revision incisional method. She plans to go there sometimes this year . Stay tune if she does , I will update in this forum.

Hope that helps ?
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Peach23Review26 Apr 15100
Betterlook15

I am 3 week post of from Dream Medical Group with Dr. Park Yang Soo for double eyelid revision suture method . I am very happy with the result .
How can I help?

Did you get yours incisional or suture ? The reason I asked because suture method ‘s post residual deswell much faster compared to incisional one and asymmetric is common until the sweling is all gone . Where did you get yours done?
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Peach23Review4 May 15100
Hi Myjeweler

Oh I see. I felt sorry for your friend. I hope he won’t need to have another revision and quite happy with this one .

I did my primary 15 years ago in Singapore to improve my short nose . Then a month ago I went to Dream Medical Group and got a revision with Dr.Park Yang Soo, to further refine the tip. He is the head surgeon in the medical group who specialize in endoscopic endonasal rhinoplasty ( close method using endoscopic for precision of work without having to cut your columella)

http://en.e-dream.co.kr

In Asian tip plasty , septal cartilage is often used as a strut ( supporting and elevating our columellar ) in between our alar domes . The surgeon will place the strut in a certain angle so it create ideal NASOLABIAL angle ( ideal angle for Asian woman is 90-95′)

Sometimes for additional tip projection the surgeon will use SHIEL graft ( there are many modification of shield graft ) . And in case if we don’t have enough to to harvest anymore , a good surgeon will be able to offer you many other safe materials that are suitable to your need.

As a finishing touch , ear cartilage is sometimes use to give a smooth round look at the tip of your nose. It also has a double function as a stopper so that our implant ( silicone , rib, or whatever material the surgeon placed) won’t slid down ( although with a superior placement technique alone , your implant will be snugly placed in a pocket between your nasal bone and periosteum)

This ear cartilage is what you see in your friend’s nose. It is called CAP GRAFT . The shape is round because it is harvested from the selected spot on our ear . It should improve with time and again if the placement is correct , which means not too superficially close to the surface of our skin , it should not make an obvious mark . And will fade as our tissue beneath it heals and the cartilage is fused together with the tissue surrounding it .

But if you are very worried that you may show sign of circle , tell you surgeon . Not every one uses this method . It is per case.

Your sister’s rhino surgeon must have done a good job in placing the graft . I don’t think her surgeon used septal cartilage in form of cap graft ( the round thing) . Cap graft is only harvested from our ear since ear cartilage is soft , bendable and curve in characteristic ( like cap)

Hope it helps! ?
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Peach23Review5 Jul 15-100
Hi Peachy…

I had my rhino with Dream 3 months ago and it turned out my natural septum deviation is even more highlighted after the procedure . It is not a botched job but I am not completely satisfied . I am thinking of coming back and have my septum properly corrected . And I hope if Park agrees and able to do so, I will also ask him to refine my tip as I feel it not as pointy as I want it to be.

Anyway, do you have Kakao talk ? Do you mind if I contact you via Kakao Talk ? I just sent you a PM . Thanks a lot Peachy! Good luck on your October plan !
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Peach23Review16 Jul 15100
Hi Moosoo
How are your PS coming along ? Hope everything went as planned . I don’t have any information about other clinic . I went to Dream . That’s the only clinic I consulted . Result was not bad . Clinic is quite professional . Medium size . After care is good . My surgeon was informative and communicative . But if you read in this forum you will be able to pick up much information about which clinic is a safe one and which is the horror one. 🙂

Good luck!
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Peach23Review16 Nov 15100
Hi guys . I am thinking of going to Seoul for facial fat grafting early next year . I had a rhinoplasty at Dream with dr.Park and quite satisfied . So looks like I am going back there again.

Could anyone here please recommend me other clinics and which specialist that does really good facial FG?

Good means the specialist can place the FG at the right places ( according to your expectation ) and his/her techniques improve the fat survival.

Thanks!
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Peach23Review24 Jul 16-100
Dr. Park is a conservative surgeon . He would preserve the structure of your septum as much as he can without a lot of manipulation .
His standard endonasal rhinoplasty is I shape ultra soft silicon for bridge augmentation and SEG ( septal Extention graft ) for tip lengthening and ear cartilage graft for the tip for extra definition .

If you are seeking for a natural results , he is the man.
But if you are expecting a more projected tip close to a wester tip, then you need to find a different surgeon . Dr. Park does not like ” operated ” look . Either that or he does not know how to sculp one since a few other fellow Dream patients who receive a rhinoplasty from him have similar results like mine .

I am not completely satisfied with mine . But Dr. Park and I have been discussing my plan for a touch up .

Have you met him ?

As for my eyes , I think he did a very good job . I would recommend him for non incisional des .

But to be fair to other clinics , DES is such a popular procedure in Korea . There are many other good surgeons that can easily produce just as good DES .

As for pricing . Mine was both a revision. I had a small simple tipplasty and des ages ago. So if this is your primary case , your pricing would be lower than mine .
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Peach23Review24 Jul 16100
Dr. Park is a conservative surgeon . He would preserve the structure of your septum as much as he can without a lot of manipulation .
His standard endonasal rhinoplasty is I shape ultra soft silicon for bridge augmentation and SEG ( septal Extention graft ) for tip lengthening and ear cartilage graft for the tip for extra definition .

If you are seeking for a natural results , he is the man.
But if you are expecting a more projected tip close to a wester tip, then you need to find a different surgeon . Dr. Park does not like ” operated ” look . Either that or he does not know how to sculp one since a few other fellow Dream patients who receive a rhinoplasty from him have similar results like mine .

I am not completely satisfied with mine . But Dr. Park and I have been discussing my plan for a touch up .

Have you met him ?

As for my eyes , I think he did a very good job . I would recommend him for non incisional des .

But to be fair to other clinics , DES is such a popular procedure in Korea . There are many other good surgeons that can easily produce just as good DES .

As for pricing . Mine was both a revision. I had a small simple tipplasty and des ages ago. So if this is your primary case , your pricing would be lower than mine .
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Peach23Rumor20 Apr 15100
@ Peachmelove,

My sister went for a mid facelift procedure with acculift TO COMPLIMENT the procedure, not acculift alone. So her face is still swollen now. Much reduced and going downwards ( all swelling moving downwards as they deswell). But i could tell from the start when her swelling has not gone down that her double chin is gone.

because i don’t have experience with acculift alone , I don’t know if it will give a drastic slimmer affect or not. Hers only has one entry point.

But if you are interested on improving your lower jawl area, i think there will be two entry point from either side of you lower cheek near you mouth area. (i know this because she was considering acculift to lift her lower jawl area but then decided to just do a thorough job that will last longer. Her lower jawl area was very saggy, her lower cheek muscles were strong, thick and drooy, the doctor said that acculift alone won’t help )

my sister new slimmer jaw is done from her mid facelift , not acculift.
Her acculift helped to eliminate her saggy double chin.

hope it helps! ?
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Peach23Rumor20 Apr 15100
@ddphan

We are very happy with the results. I am very happy with the clinic’s counsellor (Daphne Wu). Let me know if you need help with getting in touch with her prior to coming to Dream Clinic

If you know what you want already, you can get a rough quotation from Daphne, but of course you need to see the specialist before you know your final price before start bargaining.

And if you are confirmed with Dream, you just need to wire tt them 1 million KW, they arrange doctor appointment ( so you don’t wait), hotel booking, airport pick up and drop off (FOC), post op care pick up drop off (FOC).

Oh if you ever decide to choose Dream, they accept wire transfer. The 1 million won is just a down payment. If you wire transfer and decided to do a cheaper procedure, they will refund the extra wire tt .
This is just extra i want to share with you since i am very happy with Dream . Lol … i better show this to Daphey and Dr Park and get a deep discount at my next visit at Dream.:p

anyway back to your question on our results..

My sister is happy with her facelift and acculift. She is still swollen , mostly residual swelling which takes up to 3-4months depending on each individual. One think I must say, the Anti ageing specialist, Dr. Jo Yong Woo did an excellent job. My sister’s pre-op saggy bulldog (…lol) lower cheeks are now very much tighten (naturally) and her jaw is now V shape.

Her acculift also improve her saggy double chin a lot! no more saggy lower face. :yahoo:

Procedures I did:
1.I had my double eyelid revision (SUTURE METHOD) and ptosis correction (SUTURE as well)
(it’s been 10years and started to droop).

Result: So far happy with the result. There is a bit of asymmetry on the eye muscle elevator (one eye look a bit lazy after the ptosis corrention) , but I consulted with KCouture , it should improve with time when the residual swelling is gone and the muscles memory regains itself to synch one another.

2. Rhino augmentation, tip plasty ( septal extension graft and ear cartilage) revision ( i did a close tip plasty 10 years ago and was seeking to improve the shape because the old technique did not allow max tip projection)

Result: quite happy. i will have to update this forum again when the residual swelling is gone and when i can see the final result. there is a little bit on asymmetry residual swelling that makes my nose look slightly deviated ( i have a natural mild deviation anyway), but i can see the tip shape is shaping up beautifully. (again thanks to K for disarming my panic phyco over analysing phase, i think my vanity mirror is cracking .. lol)

hope this helps! 🙂

note: as K often said, do your research , visit the clinic and meet the docs. I am happy with Dream , but you may feel more at east with other specialist at other clinic . But i can tell for sure this Dream is not a dodgy one
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Peach23Rumor20 Apr 15100
Hi Wishingstar

I am new to this forum. I hope you don’t mind me sharing info to your feed. And I hope this reply will go to the correct place.

I just came back from Seoul two weeks ago. . My sister and I had some procedure there. My sister had acculift and fat grafting to compliment her mid facelift.
Her prices were:

Acculift : 2.2 millions Korean Won
The incision is done under the cin . Only 0.3-0.5 cm. with only one or two stitches.

Fat grafting for under the cheek bone : 2.3 millions
Harvested from : mid outer thigh. But point entry is from the hip.

Dr. Cho (Jo) Young Woo is the anti-aging specialist who takes care of my sister acculift , midfacelift and the accompanying fat grafting to compliment the procedure .

Hope this help a bit !
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Peach23Rumor22 Apr 15100
Agree with Kcouture…

My family has been monitoring Dream Group for a while because they own a hospital and has been planning to establish partnership in our country (Indonesia). Dream Group has a branch in Singapore and many of their clients are celebs and socialites who have been regulars to Dream Seoul. Due to that fact, and our own monitoring, we know for a fact that Dream DOES NOT swap doctors and there HAS NOT been any death case. If ever there is one coming from these Singaporean clients , I would have heard of it because gossips travel faster than the speed of light.
Moreover, we won’t jeopardise our hospital reputation by choosing fishy clinics to partner with since we are in health industry as well. Without Dream , we sustain very well.

I went to Dream last december and went again, two weeks ago, to get a few things done on my self . It would be crazy if I still go and do things on my face if I heard any of those lies about death and swapping.

K Couture and I both had Dr. Park and we both discussed things with him ourselves in the middle of our procedure.

My sister did fat grafting with Dr.Jo Yong Woo.. and someone else in other forum also had him for fat grafting.

Another friend of mine just went last week and requested a mamo, they didn’t assign any Park nor any Jo to touch her boobs. Dr. Jeong Jae Yeon is the mamo specialist.

I could go on some more, but I think K Couture has made a really good explanation. And i completely agree with her.
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PeiyoungRumor4 Feb 15100
My korean friends all say that Dream Clinic is famous among koreans, cuz there are rumors that SM artists all do PS in Dream Clinic and it’s very true that each entertainment companies, like SM, YG, JYP all have their own PS clinics to do PS for their artists, that I’m so sure about. But there is never real confirmation that Dream Clinic does all PS for SM artists, it’s just rumors around koreans.

Dream Clinic is indeed popular among koreans, cuz I know a lot of koreans in high school, and actually a lot of them don’t know many good PS clinics if they have know plan to do PS, but they have all heard about Dream Clinic before tho.

I’ve been to Dream Clinic last summer for consultation and also three other PS clinics like JW. Dream Clinic was the only one where I actually saw koreans…all the others are Chinese dominated including JW.
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piiepiieReview30 Sep 16-100
Starting from September 1, 2016, I visited their respective clinics and I am sharing with you my experience below:

1. Dr. Kim – April31: I made appointment via English consultant Brian by phone. Brian sound friendly and polite on the phone. On September 1, I saw him in person. He was very professional during the entire process of consultation. The clinic, according to Brian hasn’t had any incident and never changed location or name. The building is well managed and very clean. My first impression is that there were Korean patients in the lobby and the clinic, unlike some other hospitals with a whole ‘sales’ team, seems to keep a low profile. Brian gave me a brief introduction and took me to have a CT scan for better diagnosis for nose revision. That was the only clinic among all that I have seen that does CT for nose consultation, which says a lot about its standard and attention to details. Dr. Kim was able to look at the CT and gave accurate diagnosis of my nose. Dr. Kim was so patient. He really listened to my concern. I talked about radix (only want to lower bridge 2mm heightened, starting point for the bridge, tip shape. What I was so impressed was that Dr. Kim is considered the best nose expert in Asia but he didn’t show any sign of arrogance. He pointed out all my concerns. At the same time, he was really caring and professional in listening to me and answering my questions. Brian was so helpful in accurately facilitating the translation. Dr. Kim offered two options: 1 septal cartilage for the tip and silicone for the bridge. 2. Septal cartilage for the tip and dermis for shaping and heighten of the bridge. I had a very good consultation with April 31, but the price of of using dermis (comparatively rare less popular method but gives the most natural result which I desire the most) exceeded my budget. I trusted the doctor but I still wanted to stick with my schedule and consult with other hospitals.

2. Dr. Park – Dream Medical Group: I had high expection, but was actually disappointed. I didn’t take a CT scan. The doctor was impatient with me, especially when I asked about if closed rhinoplasty (Dr. Park’ specialty) is of any concern. He also didn’t want to elaborate on my surgery method which made me feel very uncomfortable, as my first Chinese surgeon didn’t review anything about my surgery detail. I understand that Dr. Park is very famous and busy, but the communication between me and Dr. Park wasn’t good. We were not on the same page. The material used for my nose revision proposed by the doctor is standard cartilage for the tip and silicone for the bridge. When asked about dermis, Dr. Park said it wouldn’t give the height I wanted. But the thing is I don’t want a high nose in the first place. So it didn’t really show the doctor really listened and cared much about what I desire. Also the consultant is a young lady who has a relaxed (a bit indifferent) attitude and seemed inexperienced compared with Brian.

2. Dr. Suh – JW: I watched Youtube video of Dr. Suh performing surgery. I think it takes confidence for the doctor to expose his work online under scrutiny. And I thought that must mean he is good. Also, he is at a doctor’s prime age, so I had high expectation as well. A month before I arrived in Sourh Korea, I made an appointment, but two days before my consultation, JW Consultant Emily let me know even if I consulted with Dr. Suh, his surgery slot has been full for September, which I can tell he is very popular especially with foreign patients in China because of JW’s branding. But I still wanted to hear from the Doctor. No CT scan. He suggested septal cartilage for the tip and cover it with fascia. It was only an ok consultation without any surprise. What made me feel uncomfortable was that my consultation was delayed to September 5 because Dr. Suh was traveling in Singapore. Also, the number of patients with JW and the marketing of the clinic made me worry about the quality and attention that can be given to each unique individual.

3. O & Y: they are so popular with Chinese patients to the point I was asked to pay a fee to see the best surgeon Dr. Oh. I don’t trust the Chinese coordinator. And anything that is heavily advertised I don’t feel comfortable with. So I cancel the appointment.

4. Dr. Lee – VIP: I saw quite some good reviews from this forum regarding rib rhinoplasty with Dr. Lee, so I sent an email to VIP to book a consultation. However, to my biggest surprise, Joann replied to my email with the longest text, saying doctor Lee saw the photo I sent and suggested rib rhinoplasty followed by detailed information and price for the surgery. It was very obvious to me that the email was a template. What made me feel very uncomfortable was that it looked too much like an advertisement. If I didn’t read any reviews from this forum, I would have considered that long email as good caring customer service, but now after doing some research, it became quickly clear to me that it seemed fake. And I didn’t trust Joann if she really showed my photos to the doctor or it is just a standard sales email. It is unacceptable to lie. I had very strong gut feeling that this wasn’t right. So I canceled my appointment. Joann followed up asking if I wanted to see the doctor at different time.

5. Banobagi: I went to Banobagi because of their facial contouring surgeon was featured on Let Me In and just in general a quite famous hospital. I feel because of its fame, there is a huge reception team. Unfortunately, one Chinese coordinator gave me this *****y feeling. She said things and gave out Information regarding serious surgeries that should really come from a doctor not a receptionist or consultant. The level of her knowledge could be misleading. Also, once they heard I would consult with other clinics, they seem immediately impatient especially when giving out the quote. Dr. Oh met me regarding facial contouring which I feel really comfortable with. However, Dr. Lee was the one who saw my nose and eyes. I felt the consultation was mainly the doctor talking. And the doctor seemed a bit temperamental. No CT for nose consultation. The consultation was short.

6. BK: I went to BK because I made an eye revision appointment with Dr. Kim (I heard he is good with eyes). However, Dr. Kim actually supported dermis for nose revision. He is the only other surgeon besides Dr. Kim with April31 who also suggested dermis and actually think the result would made much better effect.bthat firmed my decision to use dermis and I took this consultation to add experience and just to hear out different opinions.

7. Regen: bad. Period. I don’t even want to go into details.

8. 101 plastic surgery: I felt I never heard the clinic and the doctor seems more academic, I didn’t go to my consultation because by that time I already knew what I wanted.

To be continued…
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popcorndreams
Rumor10 Jun 15-100
What did Dream say about your fat injection disappearing/your nose looking the same? Do you have any b&a photos to share?
My friend is going back to dream for her nose revision because she was unhappy with her nose and I wanted to get my nose done there also. I’ll be going with her in Sept.
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PrettyliarsReview21 Feb 18-100Forgot to attach my photos..here they are..
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PrettyliarsReview21 Feb 18-100
Hi all ..I decided to write this post after 4 years of my first surgery with Dr. Park at Dream. I’ve been reading this forum for over 6 years and was reading, doing researching for 2 years before I decided to choose Dream since I didn’t find any negative reviews on them, also I wanted a closed Rhino. My nose had a wide alars and wasn’t defined so I asked Dr. Park to make it natural but defined like Song Hye Kyo nose. I told him I didn’t want it to look fake..that s my #1 concern. Fast forward to the surgery day since it has been 4 years..I’m going to write what I remember most: after changing to the surgery outfit ..I was waiting alone ..scared to death !! I absolutely hate that moment ..My husband came with me but he just stayed in the lobby. Finally it was time to go to the surgery room..lying on the table was the second scariest part of the journey!! They told me to lie down on my stomach since I’m doing fat grafting as well so extracting fat on the back of my thighs was the first step ..all I remember was something moving back and forth inside my thighs..wasn’t a good feeling. Then I heard Dr. Park was whistling a song..Then I was out again ..i woke up feeling pain when he was doing fat graft under my eyes..i yelled..ouch !!! Then I was out again..and here it goes another pain when he was inserting the implant in my nose..I screamed !! He said “don’t move ” then I heard the nurse was calling me to wake me up. I remember I was crying when I woke up and said lots of silly things to the nurses . Anyway ..Fast forward on recovering ..It wasn’t much pain just the discomfort and had to wear a cast for 1 month.
Here is what I want anyone that might consider going to Dream to know : Dr. Park is a good surgeon but the result is too natural. My nose looks ok on the side view but my alar is still wide, nose tip is not defined, the right alar drops more than the left side, my nose side view of left and right is very different. To be fair: dr. Park did said that my jaw is slight sliding to the right but I really don’t like the big difference left and right alar. He inserted the implant on my right alar..so the tip on the right has little grit..pls excuse my poor English ! I hope you guys understand what I meant. Also my alar looks so wide when I smile..I almost never take a selfie of my face front view cuz i just hate my nose..they do look good in some lights and some photos..sometime I hate my nose..sometime I said I can live with it but I’ve seen people with way better results than me so I’m going back this April to fix my alar.
For fat grafting: I would say not to do it with dr. Park..My under eyes are so uneven ..the left is ok but the right is hollow ..and I did 2 times with fat grafting by him. The second time I told him to reduce my alar with inside incision but it didn’t change much and the fat grafting was very uneven and it hurts a lot when he was doing fat grafting under my eyes. Oh..I remember my second surgery was supposed to be 3 hours but it took 7 hours..most of the time was just lying in the table being knocked out . I really hate the experience with waking up feeling pain ..i don’t think they have anesthesist in house that is staying during the surgery..
Here is my photos : ask me anything.
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pssk029Rumor13 Feb 18100
Hi! I got rhinoplasty at Dream last year, and I am personally happy with the result! My friend got her eyes done there as well, epicanthoplasty and double eyelid non incisional without Ptsosis. May I ask, if you consulted with only the consultant or the doctor as well? If the consultant was the one who recommended you all three procedures, I recommend you not listen to her for her job is to bring as much income to the clinic as possible.
This is my opinion: I honestly don’t think you need double eye lid surgery at all. I think men look much better with monolids than hooded eyelids. However this is your face and if double eye lid surgery is what you want, then you should go for it. As for the procedures, I think you would be fine with just doing DES. Epi wouldn’t be all that bad either since you do have mongolian fold, but it’s not all that bad. Epi will just open up the inner part of your eyes and make it look a little wider and give you a “fresher” look. As for ptosis I say you DON’T get it. You do not need ptosis whatsoever in my opinion. Ptosis is only for if you have “sleepy” looking eyes which I don’t think is the case. To sum it all up, Yes DES, Epi only if you want, No Ptosis. Either ways don’t make a decision until you consult with the doctors himself or herself. Consultants are no good.
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qriReview27 Aug 14-100
Finally finished my consultation and surgery + recovery process reviews. I like the results so far but swelling is still really bad. http://purasuchikkuboy.blogspot.ca/2014/08/in-person-consultations.html surgery day can be found in the next post. It was so hard choosing between life and jw!

After my surgery I chatted with Daphne for a bit via e-mail (eng consultant at Dream) and she gave me some pretty interesting info. We started to talk about other clinics since she asked if I wouldn’t mind telling her who I chose over Dream.

Apparently JW is pretty big competition for them and they recently lost quite a few potential clients to them. Wonjin still has a good reputation among Koreans, she was surprised to learn it has a bad rep with oversea people (basically this forum). She also told me Grand isn’t doing too well and has a bad reputation among Koreans right now.
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Rachy888Rumor11 Jan 13100
It’s not cheap. All in as I have excess skin to be cut off as well. Ie epi+ non incisional double thread + removal of excess skin for 4.5mil krw. You can bargain it for lower if its cash basis.

Yes they are popular with ulzzangs. Funny thing is that, they (both consultants and surgeons)will tell you what’s the best features that suits your face structure. Like I told them I wanna do lateral canthoplasty as well, they advise me against it.

They have alot of good reviews. I have independently search on my own. So happen, my translator mentioned about it as well. From my judgement, she is also independent from Chungdam. I’m more comfortable with Dr Lee than the eye surgeon in view. Like you guys, I have booked and confirmed my consultations with other clinics, dreams, regen, banobagi and Cinderella. I hereby tabulate their bad points.

Dreams- admin staff is extremely rude. They hangs up on you multiple times when you speak to them in English. And they have in house translator, equally rude as well. I was still determined to go, until I heard from that Dreams is famous for natural look. And one of the forummers and my Korean’s friend have to go for revision with other clinic after consultation, I said hell no. Strike it off!

Regen- I liked their in house translator but they could not give me the surgeon that I want.

Banobagi- their results on line seems good. I heard bad reviews from ppl in Korea. I immediately cancelled it.

Cinderella – in house translator is polite. Price is abit too high. Also i heard they charge for X-ray and medication. That’s really a turn off.

Smaller clinics does have advantages. They can’t switch to clinic. Their chief will be hands on.
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reddeliciousReview31 Jul 11100
Hi guys!

I recently had rhinoplasty done in Seoul with Dr Lee of Banobagi. And this forum was so helpful for me in making my decision. So I would like to contribute a little back for those who follow :biggrin:

Here are some of my experiences in consulting with the clinics –

1. Dr Jung

Before I arrived, I had pretty much decided on Dr Jung because of his experience and reputation. But I had a few misgivings.

First, I asked Jay (the manager) to make my surgery one day after my consultation so I could have some time to think because it was such a big decision. But he ignored that and made the surgery on the same day.

Second, a few days before left for Seoul Jay called me and told me I had to be 100% sure that I would do the surgery with Dr Jung because he was really busy. Otherwise he would have to give away my surgery date to someone else. I guess I could have lied but I didn’t. I told him I was not 100% sure and couldn’t be without meeting Dr Jung first. On my insistence, he arranged for a call with Dr Jung. Dr Jung was very nice and understanding. In fact, he was surprised that my consultation and surgery was on the same day and arranged for two consultations before a tentative surgery date.

Third, on the day of my first consultation Jay came to pick me up. He asked whether I had left my money in the hotel and I said yes. He then drove me back to the hotel and told me to get my money because it would be unsafe. The consultation with Dr Jung went pretty well – he was very nice and responsive but seemed to be in a rush – he was behind a large desk and didn’t feel my nose like a lot of the other doctors did. After the consultation Jay asked me to pay straight away and I felt pressured into it. Lone story short, a few hours after I changed my mind and wanted to consult with a few more clinics first. The good part was they gave my money back without too much hassle.

So basically I found Jay really pushy but Dr Jung was very nice although busy.

2. JW Clinic

I just walked in to this clinic and Dr Suh was able to see me so that was good. Note however that they do not speak English at all but luckily for me I speak Mandarin and they had a Chinese translator on staff. The main thing that made me decide against this clinic was because when I said I didn’t want a silicone implant, Dr Suh suggested harvesting material from either my skull or my butt…which I had never heard of before and really turned me off the clinic.

3. Dream Clinic

Dr Park spoke a little English but not well. I quite liked him because when I said I didn’t want a silicone implant, he didn’t push it. He even suggested a filler made from my crushed septal cartilage to fill out the radix a little. But I decided not to go with him because our consultation was in a little nook next to the surgery room and he was in his scrubs. So it gave me the impression that he was really busy and had to juggle a lot of things at once – and I wanted a doctor who was fully concentrated on me during my surgery. Also he said he had to cut on the outside of my nose for my alarplasty which turned me off due to the risk of scarring.

4. VIP Clinic

The clinic itself is very nice and have a few people who speak English on staff. I just walked in and both Dr Lee and Joann were able to see me after a short wait. There were three reasons why I decided not to go with VIP.

First, before I went up for my consultation I saw a girl who had obviously had surgery there. Her cast was off so it would have been at least one week post-op. And her nose was huge. And her face was so small. I know that it may partially have been due to swelling but still…it was not promising.

Second, let me preface this by saying that Dr Lee was very nice. But his style is very dramatic whereas I wanted a more natural result. It seemed to me that instead of making a nose that suited the rest of my face, he wanted to change my whole face to suit what he believed to be the golden line or perfect facial proportions. And like everyone else on this forum, I was recommended rhinoplasty was rib cartilage, paranasal, forehead fat graft and genioplasty. Maybe if I had gotten all that done I would have looked beautiful but I would not have looked like me anymore…So I would only recommend Dr Lee for someone who wants a big change and doesn’t mind looking very different.

Third, Joann was very responsive when I sent her emails before I arrived and gave me really detailed information which I appreciated. But she sold hard. And in my opinion, the clinic recommended procedures that were not necessary for me and not in line with the natural look I told them I wanted.

5. Grand Clinic

I actually just walked by this clinic and decided to go in because I remembered the name from a few forums. Again, they do not speak English here but had a Chinese translator. I consulted with a youngish doctor called Dr Park. I think he was by far the doctor that understood what I wanted. It was like we were on the same wave length. I told him I wanted something natural and he just recommended alarplasty and tip plasty. He was the first doctor not to recommend an implant for me. He took a lot of time explaining every little thing he was going to do and drew pictures to show me exactly what he meant. I loved the detail he went into and the natural result he wanted to achieve. The only thing that was missing was that I could not find anyone on any forum who had done rhinoplasty at Grand nor anything specifically on this Dr Park.

5. Banobagi

Banobagi was the clinic I ended up choosing. I liked Dr Lee a alot, only slightly less than Dr Park of Grand. He first asked me what I thought my biggest problems were before making his recommendations – and we both agreed it was the alar and tip. He initially wanted to put into a silicone implant but when I said I didn’t want it he didn’t push it. He also suggested a fat graft on the radix as an alternative. But assured me that even if I didn’t get an implant, the alarplasty and tip plasty alone would make a big difference for me. I had two consultations with Dr Lee and one more right before my surgery. He was very patient with me which I appreciated.

Feel free to ask if anyone has any questions about these clinics. I am still in Seoul waiting for my nose to deswell so I have got plenty of time 😉
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RevolerReview14 Jul 14-100
Hello everyone, I have been a lurker on this forum for a very long time and have used it to gather the experience I needed to do my plastic surgery in korea, so I thought I would share my own experience to maybe help someone else.

I have always been self-conscious about my looks, my biggest worry have been that I looked angry or mad when my facial expression is relaxed. My brows were sagging, I had a roman nose and my lips were big but sagging, so it was not very attractive. I did not feel that my personality fitted how I looked physically. I did not necessarily want to look like the standard form of beauty, I just wanted a kind expression.

2012:

My very first surgery was with JW, I did a rhinoplasty and an eyelid operation to collect my trifolds into one. I knew that I wanted to have surgery at JW because a friend of mine had great results there and I really connected with the doctor, he is so nice and really listened to all my questions, there are plenty of locals in the waiting area and the staff is very kind and sweet.

I did wake up during the eyelid surgery, he told me to open and close my eye to make sure that he did not remove too much skin. Dr. Suh used only my own cartilage for the surgery. It was a big point for me to not use silicone or implants because I knew the complications that comes with that.

I was very happy with the clinic and the result turned out great. JW is in the mid range when in comes to prices, but when it comes to your face, pick the clinic you like regardless of the prices and then try to bargain to get it cheaper. Usually if you just ask you can get a quite good discount.

The result still looks great after two years

2013:

I went back to korea to do a V-line. I had a very wide jaw and it dominated my face. I consulted a few clinics. ID was ridiculous, I completely agree with everyone saying that this is a scam. It seems like their image is falling apart, its a common fact that they are big on the doctor switch there.

I decided to do it at JW because of my last experience there. Today I might would have gone with another clinic that specializes in bones, but the surgery went fine. I will warn people about this though. It might have been the hardest experience of my life. The post op is so uncomfertable and you just look at yourself and think: “why did I do this to myself?”. It took me 1 week till I could eat normally, 2 weeks before I could speak sentences and 1 month to look allright. Be prepared if you want to do a jaw surgery, I don´t think I would have done it again, and if I did, I would have made sure to have a good support system.

I was also very concerned with a doctor swap at this point so they set up a camera during the surgery so I could watch it after and see that the doctor I was consulting was the one doing the surgery.

2014:

This year I went back to Korea again, I wanted a couple of things done:
fat graft
lip argumentation
eyebrow lift

At this point I am also dealing with the fact that with plastic surgery you have to stop at one point, there is that time where you just have to say: I am not perfect, but this is an improvement and I can live with this. Also I think sometimes we think that “it´s just a small change” but the surgery is actually pretty invasive and the recovery time takes a lot longer than what you would have expected.

I consulted a few clinics for my surgery:

JK: Very pretty facility and kind staff, they showed me around the building, the recovery room, the surgery rooms, but the doctor was very young and did not seem experienced.

The Line: This clinic was very beautiful, but they seemed very unserious to me. They asked for “my budget” instead of quoting me and told me that the surgery had to be done tomorrow, that there was no other days avaliable. When I told them that I could not have surgery the next day, they said well..they might have an opening on thursday, and I knew that I would not chose this clinic by now, so just to be a little cheeky, I told them that thursday was also not a good fit, but what about friday? and they sure could fit me in there as well. Not to mention that there were no other people waiting in the waiting room area.

Dream: I liked this clinic, nice staff, many locals, but the doctor was not a good fit, he was actually pretty rude, told me that I needed this and this done, so I ended up not going here.

Aone: Aone is located pretty far away from all the other clinics, it takes about one hour and a half with the subway to get there. The doctor is very polite and kind and speaks good english. I know there are some users here that have been happy with his procedures and some that are not satisfyed, but at the time I was there about 10 people stayed over night. I got to meet some patiens before I decided wether to do the brow lift and lip argumentation and all of them looked so good, therefor I decided to book with Aone.

The staff was allright, the english translator is so sweet, I really liked her, but the nurses did not know how to speak english which was somewhat of a problem. The surgery went allright. I told him that I did not want my brows that much elevated and he just did his own thing, which really frusterated me and I had to ask him the day after to lower them a little. Now they look great, but he should have listnened to me in the first place. The lip work looks great, I really love the result, such a big difference.

Petangui: I did my fat graft with Petangui because a friend had done hers there and she looks awesome. The clinic is beautiful, the nurses are the nicest ones I´ve ever come across and the doctor is pretty good with what he does. I did not like the fact that I waked up before he was finished, that was kinda creepy, even if I could not feel anything. The recovery room is also not that great.


There you have it, my full plastic surgery adventure in Korea. Honestly it is such a scary thing, I traveled alone all the times and it is not fun. The recovery is so tough and I´ve cried and had really dark thoughts and it´s been painfull. In the end I am happy with the results, but it has been such a hard ride and I am ready to jump off because I know this is the time to stop, I am happy that I´ve done it, but I´m not sure if I would have gone through this again.

Before/after:
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RielReview21 Nov 14100
Hey K, thanks for the response. Ya from the looks of it I’m pretty sure my nostrils are symmetrical already and I have sinus. Just hated having the nose retainer in so as soon as I can ditch it the better :biggrin:
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sandylieuRumor22 Oct 10100
I can’t read Korean but I’ve looked through practically all the photos and if you notice, all his style of noses are the same (Big & pointy…which I don’t like. I’m looking for a nice curved slope with a cute point…that’s just my style). It may be because of the way he shapes the rib cartilage, but he just isn’t doing it for me. I had asked them to send me results of patients whose nose is like mine and what I expected, but that too didn’t impress me.

I too thought about rib. This is my first surgery and I think my final decision may be Banobagi. I love the results and I think overall, I’ve seen the most amount of noses as far as style. Check out the before and afters here. http://www.nosebanobagi.co.kr/nose/post_photo/cafe_post_list.asp
They use silicone and cartilage. I haven’t read a bad review on them yet.

Have any of you heard of Dream Surgery or Romian? I can’t seem to get in contact with Dream. A friend of mine told me that’s where the celebrities go but I can’t see the before and after pictures. Please get back to me if anyone knows any info. I would really appreciate it.

May I ask where you got your previous nose surgeries? Feel free to email me anytime @ sandy_lieu@yahoo.com
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Seoul_2015Review30 Jan 15100
I?ve always been a silent reader on this forum but luckily during my research journey I have had the privilege of meeting K. She?s great company and no words can express how grateful I am for her knowledge and advice (and now I have the honour to call this cool girl a friend). It?s my time to return the favour!

Please don?t ask to see my photos, I?m not comfortable with sharing this to people I don?t know personally. I?m just here to share my experience. PERIOD!

I?m currently 3days post-op and recovering very well.

I got the following surgery done at Dream by Dr Park and Dr Anna.
?Magic EPI
?Non-incisional double eyelids
?Rhino ? with ultra soft silicone for bridge and septal and ear cartilage for the tip
?Full face fat graft
?Acculift to cheeks/Sideface

My experience up to date.
I emailed a few clinics prior to arriving to Seoul and managed to narrow down my choices to
1.Dream Medical Clinic
2.JW Clinic
3.TL Plastic Surgery
I emailed these clinics and arranged for consultations and requested an in-house English interpreter be present too.

I arrived in Seoul late Sunday night and had my consultations arranged for the Monday with the first one starting at 10am at Dream.

My friend and I arrived at Dream which is on level 2, the clinic is a clean and well laid out. I approached the front desk letting them know of my appointment. I was then asked to fill out forms and was then soon greeted by Unji, She?s a very friendly in-house English interpreter that shadowed our every movement. Unji then lend us in to meet Ms Lee, the consultant (I requested Ms Lee and would highly recommend you request for her too if you plan to go to Dream) We had a discussion on what type of procedures we would like to have. Ms Lee gave her suggestions before we were sent to the specialised doctors for a face to face consultation with the doctor.

Dr Park is a quite man which speaks English quite well. Dr Park explained what he suggested and replied in detailed the questions I had. This is my primary rhino and I chose Dr Park because of his speciality in closed rhinos. Dr Park then moved on to my eyelids and said I was a suitable candidate for non-incisional (cheering!) and he used a special looking tool to create a crease which I was instantly happy with. Then Dr Park also pointed out where my fat graft and acculift will be.

Then Unji assisted us back to Ms Lee where the prices were given. I?ve read all over the forums that plastic surgery can be negotiated but I truthfully went in without any bargaining strategy. The only thing my friend and I went in with was a budget. A budget we both stuck by! I believe our biggest advantage was both my friend and I were doing surgery so Ms Lee was extremely nice and we both got a very good price.

Both my friend and I were happy with Dream and felt no need to go to the out clinics and decided Dream was our clinic! Once all the payment/deposit was made we were given the 2PM the next day for surgery!

We are both 3days post-op and very happy with the results so far, stll very swollen but thats expected. Dream’s after care service has been exceptional! The nurses cleaned up all my incision, applied the necessary ointment and then sent us to get deswelling laser treatment, they were even nice enough to offer to wash our hair. The best feeling in the world! We cant shower or wash our face for almost a week.

Overall, my biggest recommendation is if you want to go to seoul for surgery, go in winter! My friend and I both cover ourselves up like ninjas and noone even cares and go with as many people as possible, you have a better bargaining position.

Xoxo
Nose, Eyes, Fat Graft, Liposuction, Aftercare
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sesamekissReview14 Mar 13-100
Hello Everyone!

Man I haven’t been in this thread for ages as the server was down on the APP and I didnt even realize it was working on the web.
But I thought I would update everyone with my experience. I am back from my two week trip to Seoul and I have to say I miss it sooo much! I LOVE SOUTH KOREA! The food, shopping and culture, and weather as well, so nice and lovely and amazeballs. Was so down when I left 🙁
So, I am 1week and 2days post op from rhinoplasty and revisional eyelid surgery.

I shall first start my post with who I consulted with, which was BK clinic, Dream medical centre (spotted a celebrity here! and this is where SM artist go for their surgery), Migo clinic, JW beauty and Teuim Plastic Surgery.

BK CLINIC

I have been to BK clinic before 5 years ago when I was 18/19 years old and had revisional eyelid surgery and muscle levator surgery. Though my results were good, I wanted my eyes to be bigger and take away some of the sagging skin, so went back to see what they said.

I waited in the consultation room for a while as I was late for my appointment, but they seemed quite unorganized with me anyway, not realizing I had an appointment or that I was a former patient and kept mixing up paperwork. It was mid-day, so I think they were just unorganized.
There were a lot of receptionists there in the reception and all were quite pretty, some more natural whilst some looked fake. And in the waiting area almost all the patients were Chinese with only 1 or 2 being Korean.
Anna Jeong was the consultant and I went through what I wanted done. She mentioned I didnt need my eyes re-done and to just do nose, which was nice as she didnt try to push the sale, she was actually being honest, but there was something about her I didnt really like.
Waited a bit again to see Dr Kim then, when I first met him in 2008, he was nicer, still blunt but went through everything that you wanted done with explanation. This time it was so different. He was on his phone for ages while I waited to talk to him and he was short. He didnt examine my face just looked at it and said what he was going to do. He even mentioned I had a long chin and I should correct it, which I knew but didnt like the fact he pointed that out. The only thing I did like about him was that he asked if I wanted an implant, rather than telling me I needed one, he gave me the option!
The consult with Dr Kim only last 5mins, if that, and then went with Anna to go through prices.

Total for Rhinoplasty (shaving hump, tip plasty using septal cartilage, narrowing of wide bridge) plus removal of excess skin on eyelid – 7,500,000won
I dont know what that is broken down… but Anna said as I am a former patient there is a discount plus dont have to pay 10% tax.
Didnt try to bargain as I knew I didnt want to go with BKclinic but Anna did say if I wanted to discuss price more I can contact her and they can do something about it.


Dream Medical Clinic

I came here (and the next two clinics with a translator) and was told this clinic is known as the clinic the SM artists go to. I even saw a celebrity here, a well known one too who was in a boyband and also in a popular teen k-drama (wonder if you can guess who it is)! Obviously didnt take any pictures I thought that was inappropriate, but that was cool!!
Anyway, I really liked the feel of this clinic. Very clean, spacious and modern and all the patients that I saw there were Koreans. I was probably the only foreigner. The receptionists were all pretty but very natural looking as if they havent had surgery, which I guess is why celebrities choose them for a reason!!
The consultant we had was very nice and we went through what I wanted done. She suggested a couple things for my eyes – forehead lift to lift the saggy skin rather than cut, or eyelid surgery with muscle correction – and also went through my nose. She was quite thorough and even examined my face and looked at my eyelids carefully, and noted everything down.
We waited a bit then and soon met with the Doctors. I would have had two different doctors, I cant remember who they were though, but I was mixed on them. The nose doctor I didn’t like. He was thorough, however he said I would definitely need an implant to “smooth my nose after I shave it”, when he said that it made me feel his technique isnt good enough for no implant.
The eye doctor on the other hand I really liked. He check my eyes for a while and made me open and close them and examined my muscle in my eyelid too by holding my eyebrows down and making me open my eyes as wide as possible. He only suggested eyelid revision as my eye muscles were fine. He did mention I can have muscle correction if I wanted my eyes really shocked looking but he didn’t really recommend it. I really liked his outcome as i felt he really did examine my eyes properly and gave good explanation too.

Total Price :: 10,000,000 won
Very expensive clinic. We didn’t try to haggle as we wanted to wait and see what other clinics were like , plus I wasn’t overly fussed on the nose doctor, which was my main concern. So we moved on.


Migo Clinic

A couple steps away from Dream clinic. Migo was nice but it wasn’t as nice as Dream but I have to say I did prefer it in terms of doctors. The consultants and receptionists were quite pretty, and again, quite natural with only 1 or 2 that I thought was more obvious.
The clinic was very busy and was filled with locals again. No Chinese people except me!
We went in straight away and even got to see the doctor straight away.
I had to take an x-ray scan for my nose, which was new but I thought was good as he doctor was able to examine my nose even better.
Dr Kang was the nose doctor at Migo and he was amazing. Very very very thorough during consultation and explained everything. He showed me my scans and pointed out what he was going to do and even explained everything he would do to the tip using q-tips to show a rough guide of how it would look. This was funny as it tickled my nose. Overall, he was very thorough and at this point my number 1 choice. He said I definitely didnt need an implant and would use septal cartliage for the tip but also said he would use ear if there wasn’t enough septal. Which is fair enough but not ideal.
Eye doctor was Dr Lee. Again, he was quite thorough and seemed passionate about his work and happy but as I liked dreams eye doctor and how thorough he was, Dr Lee in Migo wasn’t as good. He explained everything well but felt he wasnt as thorough in looking at my eyes as the Dream DR was. He even suggested muscle correction too as a must to make my eyes open more.

Total Price :: 11,000,000 won
VERY expensive. no budging on price either as I tried to haggle. The consultant said we will only give you a deal if you choose us and pay deposit. I wasn’t prepared to do this, so off to JW i went! Sucked as I really liked Dr Kang for my nose.
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shinyglitteryRumor30 Oct 13100
I’m sorry I don’t know who is first second third best… you have to do your own research!

Dream dr Yoo Won Jae for epi can give you exactly what you want, a friend got there exactly what she wanted ^^ so the doctor listens very well and gives you the results you want~ YonSei First also makes pretty eyes ^_^ Bandoeye is recommended for eyes, I have seen really pretty eyes from View and Girin, and of course best is if you go to a clinic that specializes in eye surgery! Optima clinic ^_^ all4eye.com
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Smilingheart
Rumor20 Jan 13100
Hello,

This is my first post. I have booked my airfare to arrive in Seoul in 2 weeks. I’m planning to get rhinoplasty. I have looked at all the top recommended sites and am so overwhelmed.

So far I have contacted and got a response from BK, Oz and Seoul Touch Up (seems to be more expensive that the others).

I have had a couple of friends who went to Dream and were happy with results however, they went with a Korean speaking person. The Dream website is in Korean so no idea how to contact them 🙁

I’ve been recommended to get nasal bridge augmentation with implant insertion, open nasal tip-plasty with tip elongation and narrowing by septal cartilage graft, nasal alar resection together.

Does anyone have recommendations and is anyone going Seoul for surgery in two weeks time?

I’m getting a little nervous now…really wanting a natural result but taller and more defined.

Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated thank you =)
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Smilingheart
Rumor22 Jan 13100
The guy from Seoul touch up was super helpful he even let me know which celebs Dr Park from Dream did but told me not to post it online or youtube LOL What bad reviews have you heard of Dream??

Seoul touch up co-ordinates everything so they must take a cut they provide translators and bring u to the recommended clinic they are partners with for your particular surgery eg- nose they take u to Dream. They organise accom, transport, healing therapies, dinners basically everything you need. They sent me a quote its pretty much 5k for their services plus surgery all up 10k. I’d rather find my own accom, transport etc. However, he did say that you usually have to wait few hours even with appt but don’t need to if you go through them you jump line…well i’d hope so at that cost.

How did you get in touch with Dream their site isn’t in English? The consultant must be a walking marketing tool hehe

JYP as in the entertainment company?? hehe

Is it a lot cheaper to stay there? how many days are you staying?
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smitten_kitten
Review24 Jun 15-100
Hi everyone,


As promised I have done all my consults and compiled my reviews of each of them. I had 4 clinics on my short list and I ended up visiting a total of 7 clinics before narrowing down my list to 2. Surprisingly none of my original 4 made my top 2 and it was also easy to strike them off based on the consults I had.
Clinics I visited: Dream, ASPS, JW, Jaedon, CheongdamU,VIP, MVP
Clinics I visited for consults after my op with a friend: Teuim, JJ, JK (Teuim post review to be added).
http://beccahoo.wix.com/deskorea#!review1/c1faw


So I ended up doing surgery with MVP for both DES revision, epi, and complete rhinoplasty (bridge, tip, alar reduction). I have to say my results are great and I am waiting to get back to my home country so I can properly upload photos using my computer. I also got my eyebrows done at MVP using their call in eyebrow lady lol..
Just a quick heads up that I might decide to use blogger to host my content rather than wix as suggested by a friend so if the link above doesn’t work anymore, just PM me.


My link to my blog above also states my experiences pre-op, during op, and up to 10 days post op!


If you find my website helpful, please let me know either by post or PM.
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soompiaskme
Review29 Mar 10100
Okay I just got to Seoul and I’m doing my surgery tomorrow so I thought I should share my experience here with all of you. 🙂 I hope more people do the same because I was really lost when I went through mine so if there are any other questions you want answered I’ll try to the best of my ability. PM me or email me at soompi.askme@[gmail.com] (Yes, I created a whole new account because I don’t want anyone to know I’m having surgery. :D)
Appointments
Before You Go
1.I’d say try to email all the surgeons you are interested in beforehand and try to set up appointments spaced within the same day. I know some don’t really check their emails but you can visit them when you’re in Seoul.
1a. Try to go off peak season. (Peak season is high school holidays – Mid June to mid Aug and mid Feb to mid March. In those cases you may need to book an appointment way in advance)
2. Don’t just go for the famous ones online like BK and Oz. You can check them out, but don’t rule out other clinics.
3. Most of the clinics are in Gangnam or Apkujeong. If you don’t know where to look, just go to either Apkujeong Exit 3 or Exit 5. There are literally hundreds of clinics to choose from.
Exit 5: Dream Clinic, Jelim, Park Sanghyun’s Beauty Clinic, …etc
Exit 3: Clinic 9, Grand Surgery, Samsung Clinic, ID Clinic, Teium Clinic etc
Migo Clinic provides pick up service from your hotel on the consultation day and surgery day. And they will pick you from the airport as well if your surgery is more than 2 million won (~USD$2000)
What I Did: I set up 3 appointments on the same day. But since most of the clinics are within walking distance of each other, I did some walk in appointments as well.
Clinic Impressions
1. Migo Clinic
I was picked up from my hotel. You feel really welcomed when you arrive. The staff are friendly but seemed to lack professionalism in the sense that they tend to gossip a lot about the doctors or daily things (even though they include you and tell you what they’re gossiping about). None of the staff speak much English but they do have Chinese translators hired from another company. First you fill out a form with your particulars and then you are brought to an office where a consultant will discuss with you what you want. The eye surgeon came in and used a stick to show me how my double eyelid would look. He showed me a couple of different heights and then he left. He seemed to be rushing through the procedure which I didn’t like and was very impatient when the double eyelid he formed using the stick wouldn’t stay. He rushed off after about 5 minutes, but I guess he’s a busy man and I’m just a statistic. The consultant ended up fielded all my questions regarding the surgery.A while later, surgeon who was going to do my nose came in and went through the procedure with me. He showed me what he was going to do with my nose. Nowadays Korean rhinoplasty includes a silicon bridge + a tiplasty with your own nasal cartilage and/or ear cartilage to reduce extrusion. He was very nice and spoke a little English, he stayed quite a while to take my questions and only left when I was done clarifying the entire surgery with him.
Cost: $3.2m for rhinoplasty and $850 000won for half a double eyelid surgery. (I asked for a discount they only gave USD$50 off the double eyelid surgery.)
Time: 45minutes
Verdict: It was not a bad clinic at all, and I know a lot of Japanese people go there to get surgery done, but I just wasn’t comfortable with the bedside manner of the eye surgeon. He didn’t seem to care what I want, he just marked out the lines on my eye without saying anything and left just as quickly. I also got to see a few pictures of the rhinoplasties Migo had done. And some of them looked pretty fake. Too-sharp nose lines that had the silicon bridge glistening under the light so they looked really plastic. But that could just have been a really bad angle.
2. Dream Clinic
It’s actually walking distance from Migo. I walked to the Apkujung subway and exit from Exit 5. When you come out you will see Jelim right in front of you. Turn to your left and 2 buildings down you will see Dream. Dream was very nice inside, maybe a bit barer than Migo. The staff were fantastic, I was assigned to their Chinese receptionist who was just so sweet and lovely and took care of me the entire time. I filled out a form as usual and she asked me what I wanted basically before I went to see their actual consultant.
Compared to Migo, Dream’s consultant really seems to know what she’s talking about. She was super patient, and went through everything with me, answered all my questions and never once rushed me, I must have spent about an hour in there just clarifying every part of the surgery from the result to the healing process to the doctor’s aesthetic sense. What I really liked about Dream was their honesty. I asked if I should get my inner and outer corners cut and a ton of other procedures. But the consultant would be very honest and tell me if or if i should not get the procedure and if it would be too much for me or look “unnatural”. They also repeatedly stated that if I didn’t like it I could come back and they’d fix it for me or give me the other procedures I wanted. Which I thought was very reassuring since most clinics just encourage a lot of unnecessary procedures just for the cash. And there has been a lot of unhappiness with the epi surgery in most cases.
Dr Song was still in surgery so the consultant asked if I wanted to wait in the clinic or come back later about an hour later. I decided to walk around and got a walk in consultation at Real. I came back after I had lunch and my receptionist came back to guide me to Dr Song’s office. He’s a really sweet guy, and just something about his manner made me feel reassured. He was just so calm and patient about talking me through my procedure. and he was really confident about my operations which was reassuring. I spent another 20 minutes clearing up my doubts before I left. I somehow felt that this was the right place for me so I went with my gut and put down the downpayment for the surgery.
Time: 1.5h
Cost: $3m for rhinoplasty and $600 000won for half a double eyelid surgery. (I asked for a discount they only gave USD$200 off the double eyelid surgery.)
Verdict: I don’t know if this is the best clinic out there, but it does have a great reputation. I saw a couple of Korean girls coming in post surgery and they looked really pretty despite the swelling. I am also absolutely sure that my surgeon and I have the same idea about beauty. I already have “inner doubles” and I told him I didn’t want a small fold that would become an infold after I was done healing and he totally understood. The doctor made me feel completely at ease about his skill. I also liked how Dream was built around the concept of “natural” looking beauty because I don’t want to come out looking overdone or anything. So wish me luck!
3. Real Cosmetic
Just a couple of blocks from Dream Clinic. Walk back to Jelim and you should be able to see it further down, it’s an orange signboard. Real looks very modern. I really liked the place. The consultants here spoke English, but they have Chinese consultants as well. Everything moved quite quickly. Consultation was pretty quick and efficient, I didn’t get to ask a whole bunch of questions but it was ok.
I saw the doctor. Dr Lee, not the other one. He was also very reassuring and patient. Well something in his manner inspires confidence about his ability. He speaks English enough, enough to get by and he also warned me about the dangers of surgery like extrusion or infection. Which was a good wake up call.
Cost: $2.5m for rhinoplasty and $500 000won for half a double eyelid surgery. Cheapest yet! 3m in total!
Time: 30minutes
Verdict: I would have dove in with this clinic but the nurse who I was talking to had her double eyelid surgery done with him and the scar was pretty obvious when she closed her eyes. I don’t know if its because she just did it, but I just wasn’t too keen. Her double eyelids looked great when her eyes were open though.
I could have done a couple more consults but Dream was definitely the one for me by then, so I felt I didn’t need to.
Final Notes
1. Ask a lot of questions. Write a list of them and bring it there and just clarify everything. You have only one face and you want to make yourself very clear. Most times the clinics will try to end the appointments as quickly as possible so remember to keep asking until you are satisfied. Ask for sample photos or people they’ve done, and basically everything you can possibly think of.
2. Stand firm. A lot of nurses will try to make you make an appointment for surgery right away after the consultation but if you’re not sure, or you just want to see a couple more clinics, then tell them you’ll call them later and schedule.
3. Time your visit carefully. You will need time to remove your stitches and you will want to make sure you’re in Korea long enough to finish all your check ups.
4. Pay in won/cash. You definitely get a discount.
5. Spend a day just doing a lot of consults until you get the right clinic.
6. Bring a cap and or scarf with you.
7. Girls who are doing rhino along with double eyelids, you cannot wear your glasses or contacts for 2 weeks to a month.
Sorry for the long post but if you have any questions, let me know I’d be happy to help out!
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Review30 Mar 10100
Thank you for all the encouragement! 🙂 I don’t regret getting the surgery, when I look in the mirror, I can tell it’s already gonna turn out great which is so reassuring. It’s just that I guess you think you know until you experience it for yourself. When I was on the internet I felt so prepared cos I read every post on Soompi so I knew what to expect and all, but when I lay on the operating table I just felt so stupid. Like how vain am I to suffer like this and to carve my face up just for beauty? Why wasn’t I confident enough to love the way I looked before? So I was very ashamed of that. Now that I’ve done it, I’I’m still not proud of what I’ve done but I’m very much looking forward to how it’ll turn out.
Haha I hope I didn’t scare you too much with it, it might have been so hard because I did my nose as well, which was probably the complicated part. The eye surgery was all right, although I do think other posters have stated that they threw up or felt nauseous after they surgery. If you don’t like needles, please be prepared I had about 3 or 4 in my eyes which REALLY HURT. And then about 3 in my arm. It wasn’t so bad but that’s cos I’m used to donating blood, girls who don’t like needles should probably take some time to prepare themselves.
Absolutely, \\. You can try walking into Dream if they don’t respond. I can absolutely vouch for Dr Song’s work. He’s a great doctor and will do what looks best for your face. Real has English consultants as well, and so does Banobagi and Grand and Dr Park’s Aesthetic Clinic (NOT OZ) and ID and Samsung Clinic too. You can try walking into a few clinics. on Apkujung and ask for an English consultant which is what I did. I was lucky every single time, so that may suggest that there are a lot more english speaking consultants now than there was before.

No I didn’t, I really wanted to, but 2 accounts on Soompi said the nurses were very very mean and since I don’t understand Korean and was having the surgery by myself, I really needed supportive nurses who could get me back to my hotel safely and explain everything to me.
To be fair, I have heard that Jelim’s results are pretty good though. It’s just at the 5th exit of Apkujung, you can’t miss it, so why don’t you check it out while doing your consults? 🙂
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Review31 Mar 10100
Hi chanfufu
I paid in won, cash. You get a bigger discount if you do. 🙂 Plus the rate is more favourable for you especially when you’re paying thousands in the amount. There’s a lot of moneychanger in Myundong who give a fantastic rate for USD. 🙂

Hi runpuri
My rhinoplasty actually took 2 stages. So I had my ear cartilage surgery, double eyelid surgery then the actual rhino. The first time I fell asleep right away, you just see all sorts of colors flashing by you, it’s kind of strange. That was when they harvested my ear cartilage. Absolutely painless, I even woke up a couple of times but didn’t feel anything.
I woke up for a while and felt so so sick cos the anaesthesia was wearing off, and I had to be awake for the double eyelid surgery. That was the worst. It hurts so bad, they put a couple of shots in my eyes and they stung a lot. But after that I couldn’t feel anything even though I was sort of awake. Haha, I hope that didn’t scare you. They burned the fats off my eyelids too, that didn’t hurt either, actually aside from the shots nothing hurt, but it smells pretty gross. You can ask for numbing cream in fact most places will give you some but you do have to get injections still I think. They hurt like a pinkberry but they’re over in 3 seconds and then it’s really fine.
After that I had my real rhino. But then I went to sleep and didn’t feel anything at all.
They probably lasted for about 2 hours I think? And I paid 3.6m in total. 0.6m for my eyes and 3m for my nose (rhinoplasty with an I implant and nasal and ear cartilage)

Hi zander
Not at all. The computer is in my room itself, I’m actually using it right now to post on Soompi. Yeoksam is a pretty great place. I go out at about 2-3am sometimes because I get hungry and I don’t mind walking around at night cos less people see my face. Haha. It’s a safe place, don’t worry. The receptionists don’t speak a whole lot of English though, just enough to check you in and out. 🙂
That’s great to know you have chosen something. But keep your mind open and do visit as many clinics as you can here. I recommend just setting aside 1-2 days to go down to Apkujeong or Gangnam to see as many clinics as you can. You might be surprised. Still, I have heard great things about Teuimp and Clinic 9. BK Dongyang can be expensive especially if they know you’re a foreigner so be careful not to get ripped off.
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Hi guys
It’s the 3rd day post op. I don’t have anymore bruising, I had some light bruising on my eye at first, ust a thin red line very close to my upper eyelashes so it looked like I was wearing dark red eyeliner. But it’s gone now. Swelling around the eye has gone down too and my eyebag area is no longer puffy. I’m so impressed because my incision marks have almost totally faded, so it just looks like I have a very swollen and thick double eyelid, but my scars are quite light, almost skin colored at this juncture. Very cool. The most annoying thing is that the medicine they give me to put on the scar to help it heal is a little sticky and it tends to come down in the middle of the day to coat my eyelashes. So half the time my eyelashes are stuck together.
A bit offtopic but my lower cheek and mouth area was also quite swollen yesterday cos of my rhino so I felt tension whenever I tried to open my mouth to eat something, but it’s much better now. I think elevating your head really helps, I sleep in al almost 70-80 degree position.
I actually went out today and walked around the city, it was kind of embarrassing at first but no one gives you a second glance, so after a while I stopped caring. Oh, quick note for all of you coming during summer, you might want to reconsider, because you can’t let sweat get into your stitches or else they might get infected so if you come in summer you may have to stay in all day. 🙁 Not fun.
I’m going to have my stitches out soon! Yay, they say the deswelling happens almost immediately after you have them out so I’m so excited. 🙂 Will flood Soompi more with info once I’m done.
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Review8 Apr 10100
my doctor said i should avoid alcohol for 3 weeks after i took out all my stitches so in total a month from the day you do the operation. i’m sure it varies from doctor to doctor though. dream said i could only wear contacts 2 weeks after i took out all my stitches (3 weeks in total) while migo said i could wear them right away after the op… :/ so.

because your stitches are still fresh, so if they get wet, they might split open and or cause an infection. you can still wash the other parts of your face using a wet towel. you can sleep right after you get it, but you just have to keep your head elevated using a high pillow. it takes a pretty long time to get down. i’m 1 week post surgery and my eye is still a little swollen. not to the point that i’m unrecognizable though, thank god. but i still sleep with my head elevated. and i’ve been walking around which has really helped with deswelling too.

hi i am doing great, thank you! i haven’t been on the forums for a while now because my internet is really erratic and school is starting to pick up. 🙂
yes i actually did have a very specific idea of how i wanted my eyes to look. i actually have inner doubles on my left eye and all i wanted to do was to make it even with my right eye which has an outer double. so when the doctor used the stick thingie to poke my eye to create a line, the line always formed at the same place, no matter which doctor. in dream though, i did spend some time experimenting with a couple of heights but both the doctor and i agreed that my original height looked the best.
you can see pictures of their work at the clinic. i don’t know how to access dream’s pictures online but for both migo and dream, the picture selection was definitely more in the clinic than online. they are more willing to show you more pics that they can’t put up online. ^^
haha i have to say i am very pleased with my results and for anyone who decides to go to dream, i strongly recommend it. the day i got my stitches removed, i didn’t even need a mask to go out because i looked natural already. and as the days past, i am loving the results even more. i still look like myself but just better and prettier. and my nose looks amazing at all angles. xD
that being said, i am also a strong advocate of you going to a doctor who you trust and feel comfortable with. i met up with another girl in seoul and we did some consults together and while she really trusted and was gunning for another clinic (dr jung?) at first, she was totally sold by dream. i think you should check out both clinics and see which one makes you feel most comfortable.
regarding the results, i feel that dr kwon’s work doesn’t really appeal to me. but it really differs for everybody. i know he had a ton of great reviews. 🙂 you can make an appointment with him cos he responds to his english email. dream has an email for chinese customers, but while they dont have an english email, you can go there and make an appointment because they have english speaking consultants. if you can speak chinese though, i’d really recommend you speak with the korean consultant because she is less pushy and more honest about what you need done. the english consultant means well but can get carried away. xD
good luck and if you have any more questions for me let me know! 🙂
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Review9 Apr 10100
Hi everyone

I got my nose done at Dream Clinic because I heard a lot of celebrities do it there and the doctor was amazing. I am ten days post op now and my nose is so pretty. I love it! 🙂 I paid 3m won for my nose, augmented the tip with septal and ear cartilage and soft silicon on the bridge.

I took out my bandages 4 days after the op and that day I went to OZ Clinic to get a refund on some expired Sinnech that Dr Park sold me. He couldn’t even tell I had my nose done. It was that natural, and only I could tell that it was a bit swollen. 🙂 My stitches were done on the inside of my nose, so I could walk around and no one could tell I had done anything. It was great. :biggrin:

On the 7th day I went back to get all my stitches out. Didn’t hurt a bit and the day after, it started deswelling so fast. I’m 10 days post op and I love my new nose. 🙂 I tried taking pictures of myself from a couple of angles and no matter what my nose looks great. Haha so yes, I’d definitely recommend checking Dream out if you want a nose job.

The reason I chose Dream was because the doctor was really honest with me. I went to clinics like Migo and Jelim and all they wanted to do was push as many surgical procedures on me as possible like alarplasty shaving down my nose bones and so on. But at Dream, I felt that Dr Song really cared about me as a patient and not a money making machine, so he honestly recommended me not to get certain procedures.

Some of the consultants have also had work done 8 years ago and their noses look amazing. Really. They do have an english speaking consultant, but honestly, she is a bit pushy. I spoke to their korean consultant through a chinese translator. she is way more honest and patient.

The aftercare is fantabulous, the nurses are so sweet and responsive, you can definitely go back to them with any questions. In fact they will recommend you keep going back weekly for about a month so the dr can check on your nose.

So that was my experience with Dream. If you have any questions feel free to PM or anything. :p
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Review9 Apr 10100
Hi solangesingky! 😀
Haha thank you I am really glad too. You’re getting your eyes done right? Right now there’s practically zero scarring on my eyes and they pretty much look natural, just sleepy sometimes when i just wake up. Haha.
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This is how my final fold will look like. Sorry for the difference in skin color, it was bad lighting. xD This is the outfold I got.
Oh dear, I’m so sorry to hear that. You’re right that’s probably the best thing to do for now, go and see as many clinics as you can and get opinions from every doctor. i went to migo first and my experience at migo, real and dream were all extremely different, so just check out a few and see which one you are leaning to. Maybe you’ll find someone you’re so comfortable with, Dream won’t even be an option for you. 🙂 I do think that it is also not a bad idea to schedule a meeting with the dream consultants just to see how you like the feel of the clinics. remember that dr song will do the op for you, but after the op you will mostly be dealing with the nurses for aftercare. p.s i’m sure the consultant will definitely be able to arrange the consult for you, you can just meet dr song a different day. 🙂
if you still cannot find a clinic you are 100% comfortable with before the 17th maybe then you can consider dream. you are only getting your eyes done, correct? 🙂 I took out my eye stitches 4 days after my op. So if you get your op on the 20th, they will remove it on the 24th. so you should have time. Ultimately, even if you decide not to do it at dream, doing it on the 20th with another clinic should also be all right.
BUT, I should warn you that I think it’s better to get it done ASAP. The healing period right after you get surgery is quite important in making sure you don’t have a scar etc. So if you schedule your surgery such that you have time for the doctor to check up on your healing before you leave, that will be even better
I don’t know if specifically I have a reason, but I just looked at his website and I didn’t like the way he did his patients’ eyes. I guess it’s a matter of preference. 🙂 I also saw a couple of post 1 year pics of Dr Kwon’s patients and I knew those were not the kind of folds I wanted. I think its all a matter of preference though, and you should probably see the doctor’s style before you decide. Yes you can view pics of Dr Song’s work at the clinic. And I’m sure you can at Dr Kwon’s as well.
First, Dr Kwon is definitely very well respected for his work on eyes. You have to remember that different surgeons view different things as beautiful, so that’s probably the biggest difference between Dr Song and Dr Kwon. You will probably favour one’s style of work over the other’s and that will probably be the biggest deciding factor. 🙂 Don’t worry too much, I think you’ll know in your heart (ugh cliche! :D) whose work you feel more comfortable with after consulting with both.
Epicanthoplasty is definitely not for everyone. In fact I think most people go for the surgery without even knowing what it is. I have a very minimal epicantal fold by birth so I did not think I needed the surgery. But different doctors will tell you different things. Make sure they truly know what they are doing and are not just recommending you 273874 types of surgery to make money. I think that most people don’t need it, but for some it can make a very big difference. I have heard a lot of horror cases wrt epi so I think if you like how you would and aren’t anxious to look totally different, you shouldn’t do it. Or if you want to, ask the surgeon to show you, using his hands or tools how it would look if he gave you the epi. Since epi is practically irreversible and with poor results in most cases, I would suggest to not do it.
I’m quite sure though that Dr Kwon would be willing to do the surgery without epi if you asked him. 🙂 Anyway it’s all right, don’t rush to a decision, it’s very cliched but you will know which clinic to go to when the time comes. I went to Seoul with a list of clinics, but in the end I just went with the one that I trusted the most, that’s important. I’m sure she will agree with the consult! Don’t worry! 🙂
Haha, trust me, you can never have too many consults. The more I went to, the more I knew which ones just were not my style and which ones I could consider. It was very confusing at first because they all seemed to have a few good points and a few bad ones. But with Dream, I just felt like it was the one. . Lol. Just keep searching until you find that one clinic.
Cos when it comes to your face, you really don’t want to mess it up. 🙂
Anymore questions and you know where to find me. 🙂
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Review9 Apr 10100
Hi Twiti 🙂 Thanks for your posts. I will definitely try to put more up soon, but I don’t have anything new to report.
Oh, I have no scar, absolutely none on my eyelid. when I close it, you can’t see a thing at all! I’m shocked cos it’s been like 12 days after the op. But there’s still a bit of swelling. It looks like a normal eye though, I just look sleepy all the time and when I look up at the ceiling, there’s a bit of pressure from the swelling. But otherwise, I am sleeping eating and walking around normally. 🙂
Haha absolutely, you can just do a hair treatment session or something, whatever it is, being pampered always makes you feel good. 🙂 I had zero problems at customs. The lady didn’t look at me twice, cos I just look a bit “grown up” I think. 🙂 I don’t think Vline and eye surgery will change your look too much, but there might be quite a lot of swelling since you’re doing two surgeries at once. If you’re mentally prepared for that it should be fine. 🙂 I have to admit once or twice when I looked at my swollen face I doubted the skill of Dr Song, but now 10 days later, after I’m mostly deswelled, I feel great. 🙂 The waiting period is the toughest, but it’s great after that. 😀
Absolutely! I don’t know the exact coordinates, but around Dream, exit 4 Apkujeong, if you walk past Jelim, and then turn left into the small street I had amazing Korean barbecue for $8usd. And a ton of it. It was mindblowing! I also had Korean bulgolgi around that area as well. The great thing about Korea is that if you avoid touristy places, say Myungdong (eateries) you will find very affordable, yummy and authentic food. I have not had any bad Korean food in all my time in Seoul. Korea is definitely safe and the train system is very much like Singapore’s MRT, you’ll find it a breeze to travel around there. They have T-Money (EZ Link cards) and each ride is around $0.90 to $1.20. Very affordable! Seoul is also quite clean, and beautiful. In spring you get to see all these crazy colorful flowers everywhere. I don’t think there are a lot of food courts because unlike Singapore where you have Malay/Chinese/Hokkien food in Korea you can only mostly find Korean food. And everywhere serves the same type of Korean food. 🙂 You can definitely afford to order a few varieties of food in Seoul (each dish can range from $2-10 in most cases) but the thing is like when you order one bibimbap set or any set, they give you so many free side dishes! So I’d recommend just ordering one or you’ll never be able to finish it! Haha, I usually paid $5 per meal and had so much I could even pack it home!
If you like Taiwan, Seoul is even more amazing. You can get great buys for less than $10 if you know where to look. Of course places like Apkujeong will probably be $100++? But in Ehwa, Dongdaemun, Sincheon, you can find very cheap and very good clothes. 🙂 And yes, the cosmetics are sooo cheap! Head on down to Myungdong and you can just go crazy buying a ton of cosmetics. For $80, I bought almost 30 – 40 different cosmetics I had to buy a new bag to stuff it all in. 🙂 Plus, they are so generous with freebies! I personally love Skinfood and Etude House for skincare products and Tony Moly for make up. Nature Republic is also very affordable for things like nail polish etc. Just go to the Myungdong exit 6/7 and you will walk down this longgggg path full of cosmetics shopping. I’m sure you’ll love it. The shop assistants can speak English and Chinese.
Thank you! I feel really lucky too! I think it’s just very important that you have realistic ideas of what you want to change. I knew that by changing my nose/eyes I wasn’t going to look like angelababy, but myself just a bit prettier. And it’s true. I love how my nose and eyes are turning out! 🙂 They look so natural no one can tell, but in photos, my nose looks so pretty from every angle. Haha! The day I got my stitches out, I went to OZ clinic and he didn’t know I had a nose job, he only could tell I got a double eyelid surgery cos of the swelling. x)
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Regen: It’s not in the Apujeong area, but at SinNonHyeon. Very big clinic. We had brunch at a cafe at their lobby before going up to Regen reception area at 3rd floor. My first question to translator upon reaching that place is “Is this place popular with patients from China?” Reason I asked is because I see they translated their clinic’s name into Chinese and I do see many Chinese-speaking clients around. Migo is a small clinic, but Regen is like a super big place, spanning from 3rd floor to the 15th floor of the building. We waited for more than an hour before a Chinese consultant approached us. Translator told them I speak both English and Chinese, and since they could translate Chinese better, they appointed a Chinese consultant to me, so my translator wasn’t translating at Regen. Although Regen seems very grand, what scares me is when I was there, there is no water?!!! Translator told me Regen offer a range of beverages and I should try them. But when we were there, they could only offer me instant coffee because there was something wrong with their water supply! (i was like OMG!! what if someone is having surgery at that moment?) Anyway I went to the washroom and there’s no water to flush or to wash my hands. Could only use wet tissue. Anyway translator asked for the Chief surgeon. Heard that because Regen is big, many doctors there could do eyes and nose, but to be on the safe side, we asked for the most experienced chief surgeon who will definitely cost more. I didn’t get any CT scan, but the chinese consultant told me by her naked eyes that I need osteomy, tiplasty, augmentation and alar reduction

(I forgot to mention in my earlier post that I had Lasik 3 weeks earlier, I pointed this out to all the clinics, just to be sure that I proceed with eye surgery. Dr Lee from Migo told me eye surgery is on the outside of my eyes, not touching corneal, it shouldn’t be a big problem – again very confident)

Dr. Kim at Regen, is a very soft-spoken surgeon. I like him too. But he is conservative because he once again think I have pretty eyes and I could do without surgery, especially when I only had Lasik 3 weeks ago. He said that if I want to do any eye surgery, I should return 3 months later 🙁 But we can proceed with nose, and suggested sillicon implant (4mm)–i have very flat nose..thats why but I don’t like a high nose, actually thought 2-3mm should be enough. He also suggested, osteomy, alar reduction and tiplasty. I didn’t ask much questions. The Chinese consultant translated sentence by sentence and she’s didn’t miss any important details because I understand a little Korean and would know if she left out any stuff. Anyway she quoted me 6 million for osteomy, sillicon and tiplasty and for alar reduction 1.2 million. We didn’t negotiate for a better price, since I was a little disappointed that I couldn’t do eyes at the same time and I didn’t think I need osteomy (and they didn’t even use CT scan to check)

Dream: Waited 1.5 hours or more there. It is a medium-sized clinic. Something between Migo and Regen. It’s just a stone’s throw away from Migo. Translator told me Dream go for the natural look. They don’t do dramatic transformation. And I have to agree with her because while waiting for my turn, I was watching their advertisement on their TV, and their “model” although fixed her whole face, one couldn’t tell unless you see her b/a photos. She doesn’t have very very big eyes, just double eyelids and her nose isn’t very high with no pointy chin. So if I see her on the street, I couldn’t guess she has her nose fixed etc. Anyway, we met the head consultant and I was surprised when she told me I do not need alar reduction because she thinks after a 4mm implant (I asked how high, she also said 4mm) and tiplasty, my nose should be okay with alar reduction. I asked what if it is still big? I came all the way to have my nose fixed, and she told me nicely that if I still feel it is big after the surgery, I can get it done again. (I looked at my translator with wide eyes..meaning to tell her..I don’t have all the money and time in the world to come again and again). Not once, but 3 times, the consultant told me she thinks i no need alar reduction but translator calmed me down and said, its okay we can ask the doctor when we meet him later. Then when I asked the consultant about my eyes, she said I don’t need epi or lateral, but I can do a non-incision to make my double eye lids more defined because she thinks i have some extra flesh at the outer side of both my eyes and with non-incision it should fix the problem. Intitially, she thinks I don’t even need to do anything to my eyes. But I pointed out that with non-incision, as I age, the outer corner of my eyes will still droop overtime. And she agreed, she said it’s true with everyone, and again said, when that happened, I can get it fix again.
(I understand where she is coming from, she doesn’t recommend complicated surgery if a simple non-incision can fix the problem. Their aim is to use minimal surgery to get the problem fixed) Anyway, she quoted me 1.2 million for the eyes for non-incision and 4 million for tiplasty and sillicon implant with alar reduction. Unfortuately, she said the surgeon is in a surgery and can’t meet me so I have to return again next morning at 9am. But then another consultant came to inform me 10 mins later when that maybe 9.30am or 10am. I was feeling insecure because I didnt have CT scan, and I didn’t get to meet the surgeon. I also would like to have my surgery asap so that I can have more time to recover. Dream cannot promise me that if I return the next day just to meet the surgeon, I could have the surgery soon as well.

So I decided on Migo and did not even go to Grand. I went back to Migo at 5.30pm to confirm if I could do the surgery the next day and then went to further negotiate the price to 4.3 million for eyes and 5.5 million for nose in total.
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ssuigenerisReview22 Jul 11-100
I arrived in Seoul on Wednesday to have 9 consultations over the next three days. I called all of the clinics not very far in advance (for some, two weeks, and for others, 2 days). I would say if you were to walk in without an appointment, do so in the morning. Even with scheduled appointments, the doctors tend to be late, especially in the afternoons.
I’m writing my impressions here in hopes that they may help others considering where to go for eye surgery in Korea (even though I have not actually undergone surgery with anyone yet), and also for my own reflection. Warning: very long, text-heavy post. But I would have dug it if someone had posted something like this in the past.
In chronological order:
1) Dr. Kwon @ Teuim:
Consultation fee = 30,000 KRW.
Clinic is one floor of a building. Simple, clean, cute. Saw about four other people in the waiting area in the hour I was there.
Discussed with Dr. Kwon immediately, no intermediate consultant telling me what I should do beforehand. He is straightforward, polite, got the impression he was more of a thinker than a talker. I speak no Korean so another doctor acted as translator.
Told me I needed correction for my moderate ptosis + infold incisional + medial epi. Price = 3.5 mil KRW. Said the procedure would take 4 hours. Said there was no risk to ptosis correction and that he values “function over cosmetic.” But I don’t really believe it.
He didn’t try to rush me but I still tried to limit my questions. I could kind of tell he’s not the type of person to answer endless numbers of questions without scoffing a little… consultation was 15 minutes.
I believe he has a one-size-fits-all mentality. Of course he insisted on medial epi because he invented magic epi (but I recall Dr. Kenneth Kim saying it was actually another plastic surgeon who invented it, but somehow Dr. Kwon has been able to claim all recognition), even though my eyes are an ideal space apart from each other and getting epi risks making my eyes look too close together. He also insisted that I have ptosis, and I suspect it’s because adjusting the levator muscle will achieve a more bright, open eye, or more “Western” as some people have described his style. He also simulated a medium-height fold on my tiny, heavily mono-lidded eyes.
He did bring up some of my concerns I didn’t even need to ask; for example, my protruding eyeballs, Mueller muscle vs. levator aponeurosis muscle in ptosis correction, etc. which I found reassuring.
Asked him about static vs. dynamic and he says he only does dynamic. Showed him Dr. Charles Lee’s blepharo photos for confirmation (Dr. Lee mostly does static technique) and Dr. Kwon shook his head immediately and was like “See? Static, and ptosis.”
Overall, I had a positive impression of him despite the clinics I visited afterward all suggesting different things than what he said for me. He seems meticulous, careful, friendly but too confident in that he won’t consider a patient’s opposing views, and I don’t doubt that he does top-quality work for suitable eyes.
After visiting 5 other clinics, I came back to Dr. Kwon’s clinic because I am weirdly loyal to him lol. Apparently he had 10 more minutes of operation left when I got there, but after like two minutes, the front desk lady said he was waiting for me in his office? I saw his patient lying in one of the operating rooms still. If he interrupted his operation to talk to me, I guess that’s nice, although that could be a bad sign for me were I to undergo surgery with him. Because pretty much all the other clinics said I do not have ptosis, I asked Dr. Kwon if he would be still willing to do my surgery without ptosis correction. I also asked for barely any epi because of the already-acceptable distance between my eyes. He was really reluctant about the former, though he agreed, and he assured me that my eyes wouldn’t look too close together concerning the latter. I think he’s willing to compromise, and he’s really quite nice upon my second impression, but I just don’t get it. Why would a skilled doctor like him prescribe ptosis correction when I don’t have ptosis? For money? He basically said I needed everything except for lateral, which is rather price-extensive. Not that price is a concern to me, but one has to wonder. Honestly, were it not for the excellent reviews, I doubt I’d still be so attached to him. Gah. I want a doctor with great artistic skill who’s very detail-oriented (he said my surgery would take 2.5 hours without ptosis correction, which is still an hour longer than what other doctors said for the same procedure)… but it seems like our visions don’t match. Basically, I think he is careful like everyone has said, but careful when performing what he wants. He has preconceived ideas of what a beautiful eye is. I question whether he considers how the eyes fit the face. No doubt if you were to isolate the eyes from the rest of the face, his work could be considered very special. But that’s not realistic, is it? A beautiful set of (Westernized) eyes does not an enhanced face make.

2) Dr. Song @ Dream:
No consultation fee.
Dream has two buildings with multiple floors. Old and worn-looking. In the first building I went to, which didn’t have Dr. Song, the waiting area was full. Had mistakenly made an appointment there even though I wanted to see Dr. Song. Ladies at the front desk were all pretty.
Went to the other building at which Dr. Song was operating. So I met with some lady consultant who had a Chinese translator for 30 minutes. She was nice until I started getting impatient because the translator was not getting my message across at all, and then she got kind of indifferent toward me, as if she predicted I wouldn’t want to do my surgery there anyway.
Told me I had no ptosis, but rather, a higher-set eyeball that was misinterpreted as ptosis; suggested non-incisional in/outfold + not exactly medial epi but she described it as an “opening” of the inner corner. Explained that it wouldn’t add length to my inner corners, just vertical width so that my fold would look more natural. She suggested against ordinary medial epi because she measured the distance between my eyes and it was 34 mm. She said the ideal width is 33 mm. Price = 2.7 mil KRW.
Seems to take a more conservative and natural approach.
Met with Dr. Song for 5 minutes. Really sweet guy. Apparently does 12 operations a day during summer vacation and 20 a day during winter vacation, which gives me a businesslike impression, like fitting as much as you can as quickly as you can, factory-style. That is risky because how is he supposed to remember what exactly you wanted from whenever it was that you consulted with him? Of course he has developed judgment after performing so many surgeries, but I have heard a couple of disappointing experiences with him. If you want non-incisional, perhaps consider him. Before I left, he smiled and said “Do not worry. I will make your eyes beautiful.”
3) Dr. Lee Min-Koo @ Apgujeong Seoul Plastic Surgery:
No consultation fee.
Discovered this Dr. by reading a girl’s post in this thread about her excellent eye revision with him. Clinic seems more focused on facial reconstruction. There might be multiple floors but I don’t recall. Clean and cute and spacious. Front desk ladies are pretty and noticeably plastic.
Talked to a slightly self-important consultant and a friendly translator who spoke Chinese for a pointless 40 minutes. Didn’t really get to ask questions I had because they kept going on about things I already knew or didn’t care about. For instance, how long I would be staying in Seoul after the surgery, if I wanted incisional or non-incisional… but they simulated different crease heights for me many times. Only got to see the Dr. for 5 minutes. Everyone seems to take primary double eye surgery lightly! If I were coming in for a complicated revision I’m sure I would have gotten more time with him.
Told me I needed incisional, slight medial epi, and that he would “regulate” my eye muscles a little as he said I have mild ptosis. Price = 2.5 mil KRW. By this point I’m thinking about how extolled medial epi is in Korea, and yet 2/3 doctors think it’s unnecessary for me but if I really wanted it, they could do it slightly. In other words, I don’t need it…
Their approach to beauty seems to be based more on eyes’ proportionality to the rest of the face. When I asked the consultant if medial epi was unnecessary because the distance between my eyes measures 34 mm., she was like, “Measurements don’t matter. If you look at where your inner corners end, they should align with the sides of your nostrils.” Saw a few pictures of the Dr.’s work but didn’t really get any strong positive or negative impression.
Dr. was friendly enough but the consultation was so quick that I got no meaningful impression of him. English is passable. He studied my eyes at the minimum… probably to him, my case is peanuts. He’s too busy shaving people’s jaws…

4) Dr. Jang Sung Soo @ IVE:
No consultation fee.
Really lovely clinic! I think it’s only one floor but it’s big and elaborate. Front desk ladies / consultants are all really natural-looking and quite nice.
Had essentially two consultations with Dr. Jang. Both were around 30 minutes, interrupted by a 40-minute operation. He’s pretty friendly and speaks meaningful English.
Told me to get non-incisional only. Said I had no ptosis and that I didn’t need epi but I begged him for it.
He takes more of a medical approach to cosmetic surgery, which I really appreciated. Explained to me the mechanisms behind ptosis, the difference between “cosmetic ptosis” and “medical textbook ptosis”, and observed my eyes very closely and many times to determine whether I really had it or not. He said ptosis correction is rather risky and he doesn’t do it unless necessary. Said I had only a slightly weak levator muscle function.
When I begged for epi, he agreed, but said he would only do less than 1 mm on each eye. Was willing to look at pictures of my “ideal eye” (Son Dam Bi), just so that we were clear about my aesthetic tastes. When he saw her picture, he kind of chuckled: “Son Dam Bi visited my clinic. She didn’t have the surgery here, but she did come to see me before.” Interesting, no? When I asked in particular about magic epi, he kind of shook his head and said something like, “marketing ploy.”
I expressed my severe reluctance toward getting non-incisional. From this thread, it seems like people with looser, thinner skin than me still got incisional, and that most Korean doctors favored incisional. My eyelids are really tight (tape/glue has never worked for me) with no trace of a fold at all (I wish), not like for a lot of other mono-lidded people. He insists on it, and unless I can convince him otherwise eventually, he is no longer a candidate, despite having all other excellent qualities. He said, “My daughter is 13 right now. In three or four years, if she asked for double eyelids, I would give her non-incisional. If the folds faded, I’d give her non-incisional again. If they faded again, I would give her incisional. Don’t worry about the folds fading.”
Overall, spent a lot of time with me and studied my eyes again and again every time I brought up a concern (there were many). Decent medical explanations, with considerations not only for beauty but also logic. Really felt like I quite trusted him, which I can’t say for the previous three. Pictures of his work were very tasteful, felt like he’d be careful to keep in mind my requests. If you need only non-incisional, I probably couldn’t recommend him enough.
5) Dr. Park @ Banobagi:
No consultation fee.
Met with the doctor directly, about 20 minutes later than the scheduled consultation time. Really pretty, advanced building. Strengths seem to lie in facial reconstruction. Had to take a picture first.
Consulted with Dr. Park for 15 minutes. Was in a rush even though he answered my questions. When I got up, implying that I was ready to leave, he quickly said “Bye!” as if he couldn’t get me out of his office fast enough. He seems more like a businessman. Apparently he does 6-7 eye surgeries a day. Not super friendly, but willing to talk. Very good English.
Told me I needed muscle correction + incisional. No epi. Price = 4.2 mil KRW (highest among the 9 clinics for fewer procedures). He said I have very mild ptosis, but that wasn’t the reason for wanting to give me muscle correction. Overall, muscle correction gives a brighter, more youthful look to the eye. He showed me pictures of his work and I didn’t like them at all; for example, a 20-year old girl and a 60-year old woman who both underwent muscle correction looked totally childlike in the after pictures. Innocent, baby-ish, not wise at all. But I do appreciate how he unintentionally refined the definition of ptosis for me: there is pseudo-ptosis and clinical ptosis. Correction for pseudo-ptosis should really just be called “eye brightening” or something, because claiming a patient has ptosis can really throw him/her off. IT’S NOT MEDICALLY-DEFINED PTOSIS. In most cases, you really just look sleepy and they want to shorten the muscles to give you a, in my opinion, exaggerated awake look. I find it distasteful. This isn’t to say there is no such thing as real ptosis that plastic surgeons will detect and that really does need to be corrected. But in my case, it’s purely for cosmetic reasons, and I think it was clever of Dr. Park not to use the word “ptosis correction” but rather, “muscle correction.” It’s not correction of a medical problem; it’s simply another method Korean plastic surgeons have developed to enhance a standard double-eyelid surgery.
He has a Westernized ideal of (eye) beauty, similar to Dr. Kwon’s. He showed me four different versions of an eye in a collage and asked me to choose which was most beautiful. Obviously I’m going to pick the one with a parallel fold, medial epi, and a huge pupil. But that would be most beautiful on a Caucasian face. When you isolate features like that, an eye, a nose, whatever – you lose sense of how appropriate it is on your own face.
Overall, not my taste, both in double eyelid surgery and also personality, but he seems to be judicious. I don’t think you could go wrong by choosing him if you like his style. It’s just not a very personal clinic – has a more factory-type approach similar to Dream’s.

6) Dr. Lee @ CJ Cosmetic:
Consultation fee = 10,000 or 15,000 KRW, I can’t remember…
Clinic is one floor of a building. SO CUTE. It’s very Yale-proud as I believe he did research there. Very quiet, no one else besides me and the front desk ladies. Who by the way look completely natural. I felt safe there instantly upon entry.
Dr. Lee is a really smart guy. I wonder why he didn’t choose another field in medicine. He is very academic. Seems to be more focused on research. He actually MEASURED my ptosis. First and only guy to do so. And I definitely don’t have it.
Was the only one to ask me why I wanted double eyelid surgery. Also told me I have beautiful eyes naturally.
Told me I needed incision + “internal epicanthoplasty”. He said he created the latter technique. Basically it’s not altering the distance between your eyes at all, but rather, opening them up to allow the fold to appear. I’m guessing it’s similar to what Dream suggested for me. If your fold fades, he revises for free.
If anyone cares, he doesn’t believe in the static vs. dynamic classifications. Is also against taking any fat out of the lids since he believes it will come back or make your eyes look hollow/aged.
He is the most conservative out of all the plastic surgeons I visited. He told me he rarely does medial epi on anyone because the oriental look disappears. He also favors a natural, almost unnoticeable fold. He warned me “I am giving you blepharoplasty not to so you can look more Caucasian. It is to correct the sleepy look and also reduce the width between your eyelid line and eyebrow.” I suspect his attitude toward plastic is the reason why his clinic is not very busy/popular, because it seems to me that most Korean women favor a more dramatic look. Kept repeating, “We are not Caucasian. We are Oriental.” He just strikes me like a doctor, not a plastic surgeon. Very honest, kind, and simple. I wonder about his artistic skill. The pictures he showed me were not bad but they did not excite me. He is the doctor I felt most safe with and confident in, and I left with no concerns or questions unanswered. He simplified the procedure for me completely – throwing out ptosis and medial epi eliminates so many of my worries. I feel like I trust him like I would my own father, like he has my best interests in mind. I am just not certain that after surgery with him, I would leave completely satisfied because I had supremely prettier eyes. I know nothing would go wrong but I’m not sure if it’d be completely right. Would my eyes be too natural? Anyway, he is unlike any other plastic surgeon I have met in Seoul. He was refreshing, and helped me regain confidence in a city where it seems like everyone wants to look unlike themselves. I am debating between him and Dr. Kwon. It’s really a matter of making the safest choice vs. the potentially prettiest choice.
7) Dr. Koh @ Petit Noble:
No consultation fee.
One-floor lovely clinic. Front desk ladies/consultants are the sweetest out of all the clinics I’ve visited.
20-minute, rather fruitless consultation with the doctor. No pre-consultations like at Dream, ASPS, and IVE. I hate pre-consultations, they are pointless. Speaks passable English. Kind of a jumpy guy, very opinionated. But sweet. Just seems wired.
Told me I needed incisional. That’s it. Price = 1.5 mil KRW (cheapest among the 9 clinics, in total and also just for incisional).
Favors a high crease. From the pictures it’s pretty heavy-handed. But he explained the logic behind it which I could respect: dramatic crease, cutting out a decent amount of skin, is necessary so that width between eyelid and eyebrow is significantly reduced. Didn’t look like the creases were static, but I didn’t ask. Seems like he works with really small eyes like mine. The pictures revealed, in my opinion, not artistic work. You come out looking tremendously different. Just one harsh, simplistic, straightforward arched cut.
Told me ptosis is often diagnosed by doctors who are wanting to get more money. But be sure you really don’t have ptosis because if your levator muscle is weak, I’m not sure it could handle his height of creases. Seems to hate non-incisional technique. Says it’s only preferable for really small creases, which he also seems to hate, because he says your eyebrows will gradually droop and will cause your double eyelids to be hidden by sagging skin.
Not my style, but seems like a simple, straightforward, clear-headed guy to go with if that’s what you’re looking for. Kind of like at Banobagi. Will not be really open to your desires like Dr. Jang @ IVE and Dr. Kwon @ Teuimps because he’s hella headstrong. He knows what he likes and I think he will surely do a competent job of it.

8) Dr. Lee @ VIP:
No consultation fee.
Very commercial approach! The coordinator’s name is Joann and she is very sly. I had no intermediate consultation with her and met Dr. Lee directly, but it seemed like she was telling him what to do. He barely said anything. The whole time she was like, “Wow, it looks like she has a lot of fat in her lids, isn’t that right?” And the doctor would be like, “Hm… yes…” and then she was like, “Her eyes are slightly asymmetrical… it looks like one eye has sagging skin and the other has a weak muscle!” and Dr. Lee was like “You’re right!” I mean, perhaps she’s very good at catching the details and should look into medical school herself, or maybe she is just trying to stack my bill. Dr. Lee seemed kind of foolish but I later found out from Joann that he wasn’t even the one who would do my eyes. Apparently he does a bunch of other types of surgeries, eyes are not his specialty. Then why was I scheduled to consult with him? I wasn’t pleased with that.
Told me I needed incisional + ptosis correction. Price = 3.15 mil KRW. Epi if I wanted it; they would make sure it was very slight. I asked how slight and Joann told me 1.5-2 mm. While she was probably being realistic, this number worried me, as Dr. Jang from IVE said if I really wanted epi it would have to be less than 1 mm. on each eye.
Don’t get me wrong, Joann is funny. She speaks very competent English and was like, “I studied at a university in America. Married the wrong man, now I have to work so hard.” I’d probably want to get coffee with her, but I don’t trust her. She is clever at marketing. She had a good, very subtle nose job. I know VIP is more known for noses so you could check it out for that. But for eyes, it just seems very business-like, and Joann is in yo face. Impressive before and after pictures but their diagnosis was just dangerously nitpicky and unnecessary. Silliest consultation among the 9, though Petit Noble is also up there.
9) Dr. Kang @ IOU:
Consultation fee = 50,000 KRW. Most expensive of the three clinics that charged a consultation fee.
Busiest out of all the one-floor, eye-specialty clinics I visited. Waiting area was always nearly full. Front desk ladies are relatively friendly and natural-looking. Consultant lady is really sweet. They have a native Chinese translator who is very competent. Clinic seemed so busy that it gave me a factory-like impression like that of Banobagi and Dream. And yet, there was a personal quality as well. It felt healthy, safe, and comfortable there.
Consultant lady is perceptive. When she draws the first line on your eye, it is probably the most fitting one. I then suggested that I felt it was too low, and she redrew it, and then I asked her which one she preferred. She seemed to like the smallest crease the most, but then I kept expressing doubts, and finally in the end she said she thought the medium crease would be most suitable. They are aware of what you want, but I think they should fight more for what they think is most appropriate. Patient doesn’t always know best. Doctor is then swayed by this pre-consultation and suggested a medium crease but I wonder if that’s what he really thought.
Doctor does not want to answer many of your questions. He seems like a sweet man but is in a rush. Told me I needed ptosis correction + incisional. When I expressed my view that I did not have ptosis (actually, the view of half of the other doctors), he said, “I will have different opinions from other doctors’. Because of other doctors’ poor judgments, I always have to fix their work. If I didn’t give you the correct diagnosis, who could fix my work? No one.” Apparently he does a lot of revisions for people and I thought they turned out quite nice. Primary surgeries were also pretty.
I trust his skill even though we didn’t get on that brilliantly. I actually added him to the group of very likely doctors (Dr. Kwon and Dr. Lee from CJ Cosmetic) for a little while.
It’s been frustrating, exhausting, and discouraging for me, but things are starting to become clearer. At first, after visiting only three clinics and getting three different opinions, I wanted to rip my hair out. But when you visit eight clinics, you’re bound to find opinions that overlap, and then the rest is up to you, which can be scary. I carefully selected these nine clinics, though, and I really feel that nothing could go that wrong regardless of which I choose. It’s my first surgery, my eyes leave relatively little wiggle-room in terms of crease height and shape… so it’s a simpler procedure, I suppose. Maybe visiting nine clinics was unnecessary then, as no doctor is going to have the same exact opinion as another, and it just makes the decision unnecessarily difficult. But I learned a lot, and when you choose from a large sample size, there’s a higher probability of making the educated, suitable decision. It’s down to CJ & Dr. Kwon.
Eyeshttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/27115-double-eyelid-surgery-thread/?do=findComment&comment=14571894
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Sunrise2006
Review8 May 15-100
Note: The price I get in Dream after bargaining. We?ve done eye and nose jobs. And Dream now has a promotion for eye surgery. The prices in JW and April31 are only initial, I aske them through Kakao.

After considering with those reasons, we decided to choose Dream, so we cancel the consultation with April31 and JW. I had non-incision DES by Dr Park in 40 minutes, epi and lateral by Dr Anna in 2 hours (because I want my eyes look bigger). My friend had rhinoplasty, eyes bag removing. Dr Park made her bridge higher by sillion, and used ear catilage for her tip, by close method, in 2 hours. Dr Woo made removing her eyes bag, in 2 hours.

I know all our surgeries are small, non invasive surgeries, but indeed I feel scary during and after the surgery &#61514; . It?s almost not pain but local anaesthetic is very uncomfortable with me.

3 hours after the surgeries, we left Dream at 12 pm. My eyes and my friend?s nose were not swollen much at that time. We were bruise and swollen most in the second day and the third day. It reduced very slowly in the days after.
We were removed stiches last Monday (the 7th day after surgeries). Now is the 11th day after surgeries, my eyes is almost natural, a litle bit bruise. My friend?s nose and eyes are still quite bruise, under her eyes, till to her cheeks and chin.

My photos:
Before, with a litle bit eye lash extension
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Two days after non-incision DES, epi, lateral
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5 days
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After all, the most important is the results. I will continue
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Sunrise2006
Review10 May 15-100
7 days, after removing stiches
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2 weeks
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Thank you all for your nice words. May be I’m quite negative, and may be I expected too much about doing plastic surgeries in Korea :p. That’s why I try to tell my story and post my photos to let you assess by yourself.

Now my eyes are absolutely normal, no pain, no swelling, no itchy, no bruise. I really really hope my eyes still the same day by day, not change anymore :woohoo: . My friend’s eyes are also healing well. I think her eyes are improved well after removing eye bags, no scar, no swelling (only after 4 & 5 days). Her nose is better too, but the tip is still round . I really hope it will be shapper as time goes by, as some of you said.

Lanvinfiend: Dr Anna didn’t tell me about the side effects or epi or lateral. She said they would make my eye bigger, a little bit. And I think my lateral and epi jobs were healing well, align with the healing time of non-incision DES. Only first several days, I feel very itchy because the stiches. As you see, I have nearly no scar from epi and lateral. May be my incisions are too tiny, especially in lateral, where i can’t see the incision.

Popcorndreams, Wishingstar: As I said, her tip now is quite round, her bridge is not shapper much (after 2 weeks). She has to wait several months to see the final result. I will update more. If you want, i can send you her photos through Kakao .
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Sunrise2006
Rumor8 May 15-100
Hi everyone,
Some forumers asked me share my experience in DREAM clinic so now I decide to make a new topic. My English is not good so that?s why sometime I?m difficult to share my experience. If there is something you don?t understand or want to know details, let ask me in this topic, I will try to reply quickly.

As I told, before the trip, I had read a lot information in this forum to choose the clinic. Firstly, I choose Teium for my eyes (I have double eye lids but small lid, ptosis and make me look tired and older). But my friend decide to have both nose and eye surgery only one week before our trip so I had try to choose the other clinic. And we have only 7 days in Seoul so we want to have surgery right the day we come to have consultation.

My first choice for both nose and eye is JW, but unfortunately , we can?t book a slot for surgery with Dr Suh at the same day we come to have consultation. So that, we choose Dream Clinic and April31 because they seem to be famous about nose job and also good in eyes job. We also want to book with Real but they didn?t reply my booking email.

After the flight, we went to Dream to have consultation at 10 a.m. As some forumers told, we choose Ms Lee as the consultant. She is very nice, friendly? She adviced me make non-incision DES and lateral (I don?t know exactly the name), because I have no fat in lids so I don?t need to make incision DES. She gave my friends a lot of B&A photo about nose surgery to choose. After that, we came to see Dr Park.

Dr Park answered all our questions but I feel he didn?t care much about each of us. It?s quite difficult to express but he answered shortly, simply, no more details, not alot advices. May be he thought it’s only small surgery :sad:((

But at that time, the reasons make us decide to choose Dream is:
1. Dr Park can make our surgery after consultant. Althought we had book a consultation in April31 right after Dream, but we didn’t know if we could have surgery soon.
2. Dream is quite big and professional clinic with 6 floors, with good profile doctors. And the important is they are quite famous in nose surgery, with many good reviews in PS :smile:.
3. And… the price that Ms Lee gave me is very reasonalble compare with JW and April 31. The price for rhinoplasty is about 6ml kw in April 31 ; 4,5 to 5,5 ml kw in JW and only 3,4 ml kw in Dream :cool:.

I will continue tomorrow, it’s so late now
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Sunrise2006
Rumor10 May 15-100
Thank u, chlak5.
But I still feel dissapointed because my eyes are almost not different anything after epi and lateral. I hoped them bigger or at least look something change, but not. I see the non-incision DES procedure make my eyes look better. But now my eye lids are quite small. They look good and natural but i’m very afraid that they will be smaller after a month like some forummer said :sad:((.

And one more important thing is the symmetry. As you see, my right eye is more swollen and bruise than my left eye. Now my eyes are almost no swelling and bruise, but my right eye lid is still smaller than my left eye lid. I will post more photos.

To Pazzion: Yes, she is willing to share, and i will send you her photos through Kakao . My id is Sunrise2006. Now i can’t say anything about her result because her face is still swelling and bruise. Her eyes are ok but i don’t think it will be a very good result for her nose 🙁
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sunshinegirl7
Review8 Nov 15-100
Hey guys,

Took me long enough but I finally got out of my lazyass mode and will start writing a review on my PS experience this past year. I stopped participating in this forum due to busy workload and the kakao chat has most of the information I need but I want to post a review to help others out with my experience. With that being said…here is the review.

I went to Seoul in March for my primary rhino and fg. I went to Seoul with time constraint which I regret. I gave myself one day to consult because I only had one full week after that before I went to Japan. Imagine running around in a foreign country consulting at 3 places and deciding on the spot where to get surgery the next day. Not a smart idea of mine but it happened. I did do some homework on the forum and the interweb so I had an idea where I was going, I wasn’t completely lost.

First I went to Dream since I’ve heard many great things about the clinic on the forum. I consulted there first because what attracted me to that clinic was I did not find anything bad about the clinic online like many others out there. Also, the closed method for rhino is definitely a plus since it’s my first time doing PS, I was quite scare of scars, looking fake etc.. After consulting with Dr. Park, he suggested I do septal lengthening (as my nose is short), add silicon implant to the bridge and use ear cartilage for my tip. They also suggested full face fat graft as I initially only wanted forehead fg but they did have a point, a full face fg will give my face more volume. They quoted me quite a high price which was way out of my budget. I was an obvious foreigner and solo so it’s obvious I will get taken advantage of. Also, I asked to see before and after pictures, they told me to go online on their website, which doesn’t have much…

After that, I went to go get my eyebrows tattoo because it’s better to get it before doing fat graft. so I went to Oscar which was a couple stations away.

Back to consulting, I went to Braun which was across the street from Dream. Should of did both consultations back to back but being there for the first time, I didn’t know. Braun only had chinese translator. At first they thought I could only speak english so they tried to kick me out by telling me I need to bring a Korean friend then I told them I speak chinese so they said ok you can wait. They asked which doctor I wanted to see, I said Dr. Park. The consultant said he is in surgery and I cannot see him that day but I can see Dr. Seo who is another good rhino surgeon. So I agreed to see him. I showed Dr. Seo my ideal nose and he said it can be similar to what I want but I will need to do osteo (bone shaving). The bone shaving scared me at that moment as it seemed so invasive. He noticed my concern and said I don’t have to do it if I don’t want to. He was very genuine. Then I proceed to ask about fg to forehead and they quoted me around 6mil from what I can remember. With frozen fat top up within 5 months. I almost booked with Braun but I wanted fresh top up for fg in a year like Dream offered.

Last consultation I went to that day was Unique. Unique only have a chinese translator as well. I didn’t make an appointment, I jus walked-in and I got to see the doctor within 5 mins. Apparently there’s 3 Dr. Lee’s at that clinic so I forgot which one I saw. He basically suggested same method as Dr. park from dream. The price they quoted me was lower then Dream and Braun but I didn’t book with them because I haven’t done much research about their past work and the before and after pictures they showed me weren’t impressive to me.

At the end of the long hectic day, I decided to go with Dream as they did lower the price a bit for me but I realized now it was still over priced. I went back to Dream to consult with Dr. Park again as the first time I saw him, it was really quick and I didn’t get to ask everything I wanted to. I asked more questioned about how he can give me my ideal nose in the pictures I showed him. I paid my deposit then and they scheduled my surgery the next day in the morning. During the surgery, I was half awake and I can see the lights and Dr. Park stitching my nose up. I was tripping out at first thinking they switched doctors on me but the nurse thought I was crazy and said they don’t switch doctors here 😆

6 months later…
My nose did not come out the way I wished. It was droopy and the tip wasn’t projected or sharp. It was an improvement from my original nose because the bridge was defined but the tip wasn’t looking good. My fg at this point has 30% left.

I went back to Dream for revision and told Dr. Park my tip is not how I wanted. I want it to me more projected and less droopy. He said it’s a simple fix and he will use my other ear cartilage to project the tip. The surgery went by really quickly and I wasn’t as swollen as my primary. I also did fg top up, this time taken from my stomach instead of the back of my thighs because he said he doesnt want to leave another scar. My revision and fg was supposed to be free with anaesthesia fee but they tried charging me 1.4mil because I asked for implant change from 3.5 to 4mm. I thought because they are performing the revision on me, it shouldn’t be a big deal to change the implant to a bit higher. I was pretty upset when the consultant tried to rip me off again. After arguing for some time, she agreed to lower it to 1mil which I had agree but now regret even asking for an implant change as I was pretty happy with the height before.

It’s been one month since my Rhino revision and I realized there is a dent on my nose specifically on the left nostril. I was having lunch with a friend that day and my friend suddenly asked what is wrong with my nose. She thought I had put bad makeup on because the dent is obvious and it looks brown in the light. I didn’t believe her at first then I went home to look in the mirror and saw the dent. My nostrils is uneven because the dent has suppressed the nostril. I quickly messaged the consultant with my picture and concern and she told me to go in to see Dr. Park. Unfortunately, the only day I was in Seoul returning from Hong Kong was a sunday so the clinic was closed and I could not see him. Dream said they will mail me a nose retainer to help with the dent but at this point, it is so upsetting I don’t know if a retainer can help. I am not satisfy with the result because of the dent, I was hoping this would be my last trip to Korea for PS but it seems like I have to go back in 6 months time. Although I did not get to see Dr. Park when I returned, I got to see the doctor at Trend clinic as I was waiting for a friend to do her post-op. The doctor at Trend took a look at my nose and said it is depression. He then began to consult my nose for a good 45 minutes explaining what he can do when I come back in 6 months. He said it would be an easy fix but still, the fact I have to fly across the world again to fix something like this angers me. Trend doctor also drew on photoshop how my nose will look and how he can project the tip as Dr. Park couldn’t do so.

At this point, all I can do is wait another 6 months and for my retainer to come in the mail to see if it’ll help with lessen the dent.
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sunshinegirl7
Review10 Nov 15-100
Yes don’t restraint yourself from closed-rhino. One of the reason I went with Dream was the closed rhino method but because now I am unsatisfy and have a dent, my next revision will be open so avoiding that from the beginning didn’t help me much. From seeing alot of my friends who has done open rhino, its not that bad. some scars aren’t even noticeable.
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sunshines94
Rumor21 February 14100
Warm regards everyone 🙂

I’ve been lurking the site for awhile and have been a silent reader but now that my trip to Seoul is coming soon I thought I should contribute more and get more info from you guys 🙂

So here’s my story:

I had double eyelid and rhinoplasty at a small clinic called Point 3 years ago and the results were so-so. It was a one doctor-operared clinic and i regretted the fact that i hadn’t done more research. Well i guess because i was so new to the world of plastic surgeries i was quickly fascinated by the premise of having my surgeries done in Korea and trusting the rexommended clinic by the local medical agent i had (how naive).

Well fast forward to 2014 lol, my mom and her friend wanted to have facelift and here’s the chance for my revisional surgeries plus a lil bit of something more lol. So i’m planning of having revisional eyelid and rhinoplasty with fat grafting on my forehead and breast augmentation.


After asking around my Korean friend he recommended me Dream and Regen clinic. After looking at their web site i’m leaning more for Regen and i xontacted a docdoc after seeing bongqiuqiu’s posts. Everything was arranged but guess what? Docdoc decided to shut down their medical concierge service in Korea so i turned up going with another medical agent. Tje reason why i signed up with medical agent is because 1st of allcontacting Regen is sooo hard¡¡¡ I tried everything, email n calls but the reply i got was done half-heartedly and i can’t have a skype consultation when asking directly. When i called several times they just told me they will reply to mt email but each took them several weeks to reply with half-hearted answers like sorry we can’t set up a skype consultation and the dr’s sxhedules cant be booked now etc etc. Totally not helpful and i cant even know which doctors are specialists in the surgeries that my fam and i wanted.

through docdoc before it got closed down i got the info of the specialist doctors for the surgeries and when i compare it with the answer of the manager of Regen after the arranged online consultation and the info from the new medical agent i had, it turned out to be the same names so i was quite relieved.

so anyway does anyone recently has experience with Regen? Ow btw the recommended dr for my multiple surgeries is dr kim ki kap and i’ll be in Seoul from 14-27 April. ?
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SusakiReview20 Nov 16-100
I did ptosis correction by dr park in may and he totally corrected my left eye, however, I still hv a bit ptosis problem on my right eye. And I want to make my eyelids a bit wider, ur review freaked me out, I don’t know whether I shud go back to dream, could you please kindly share your Kakao ID or email address so that I can contact you directly? Thanks!
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syxwanReview27 Dec 14100
Hi K and Davincci,
I’m now 3 weeks post op. just want to update that my surgery went well. most of my bruises were gone before end of second week except one on my nose bridge which was the area where i had extrusion from the previous rib rhino. when my cast was removed on day 4 it revealed a deep bruise. Dr Park checked on me and told me it is ok. and true to his words, the bruise is slowly but surely fading away. i think it should be totally clear in a few more days. so far I’m happy with my new nose. result is natural and subtle yet when i put my before and after pix together, i can a definite improvement. Dr Park is amazing!! i just pray my nose will not change too much as it settles down in the next few months.
thank you both for your posts. i benefitted greatly from your experience. i will remember to prepare dry shampoo for my next ps :p
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tinipinkiReview23 Jul 10100
i just came back from my surgery today and here’s my experience with other doctors ^^!
1. Designer Plastic Surgery (???? ????) – My cousin’s friend recently got her eyes done here and she said they came out really nice and pretty so we decided to consult with the doctor. The place was pretty empty probably since we went in the morning but in the waiting room there were lots of before/after portfolios to look at, which I liked. Then we were called in to talk with the doctor. He was pretty nice and told me I should get med epi if I wanted the in/out fold since I had such prominent mongolian folds. With mongolian folds, only an in fold would work. Next I was taken to the room next door where this counselor lady told us the prices. Med epi (1,000) + In/Out Fold (1,600) = 2,600
2. Dream Medical Group – There 2 Dream buildings. One is really small with lots of floors where Dr. Song does the eyes and the other is about a block further down. I first visited the second one. My cousin said there’s a counselor here who’s known to try to rip people off so she told me to be cautious. We only met with the counselor at both Dream because all the doctors are ALWAYS busy. The lady said I needed ptosis correction (2400), med epi(1000), lateral epi(1000) and incision method which totaled to be 4400. But they had a summer student discount going on so the total price came out to be 3200.
3. Dream Medical Group (Dr. Song’s office) – I met with the counselor only here and asked her if I needed ptosis correction. She said I didn’t which confirmed my cousin’s theory that the previous lady had tried to make more money. Or she might have made the wrong assumption, anyways in the end I decided on this clinic. The counselor here was really nice and suggested partial incision (1000) and med epi (700). I told her I wanted to do lateral also so the total came out to be 2300. I told her I’d schedule an appointment by phone after making my decision and left.
4. VIZ ???? – My cousin had her eyes done here and her eyes came out REALLY pretty so we dropped by. But she had big eyes to begin with haha I didn’t really like the doctor much. He kept talking about the bad effect of med and lateral epi and tried to persuade me out of getting med epi. He also talked about one korean celebrity (whom I won’t name) who got lateral epi but is now suffering from its bad after effects. He was pretty honest but he didn’t really tell me anything that was helpful for me. He offered just the in fold with non-incision method for 1600.
5. Face Line – The doctor here supposedly worked at Dream but created his own clinic a few years ago. My other cousin got her eyes done here so we also went to consult with him. The doctor here told me not to get med epi since it would make my eyes look abnormally close together. He suggested in-fold with laterl epi for 2500.
DAY OF SURGERY:
I went to Dream 30 minutes earlier than my appointment time but had to wait around 1 hr. The person before me was getting revision so it was taking longer. I surprisingly was nervous at all probably since I was familiar with the procedure from reading everything on this thread. The surgery was really fast. First, I was taken to Dr. Song’s office where he looked at my eyes and designed the line. He talked fast and quietly so I barely understood him. I asked him if I could get the lateral also but he said it doesn’t have much of an effect and these days there’s a lot of complications with that procedure. He was really honest and precise. He knew right away as I walked in that I had extra fat on my eyelids that needed to be removed.
Right away, I was taken to the surgery room without even changing out of my clothes. They told me to lie down and wrapped me in blankets and more blankets until only my face was peeking through a circle. The nurses sterilized my face and explained the procedure. By this time I was getting pretty nervous. Dr. Song came in and I guess he started numbing the inner corners of my eyes. I didn’t feel the numb shots in my right eye and while he was working on the inner corner I kept thinking about other things which kept me from panicking. The left eye was more painful probably since I had an idea of what the shots would feel like so I had a harder time keeping calm. The whole ting was over so fast. They pulled me to sitting position and looked at my eyes. He said my eyes came out nicely and told me I could leave. When I stood I felt dizzy either because of the amnesia or I put pressure on my legs to keep me from putting pressure on my eyes. The nurses explained what I had to do when I got home and blah blah. I put my sunglasses and cap on and came home on the subway with my aunt and mom.
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Vampire_Knight
Rumor22 Apr 13100
Hi ms.rochelle!

I have to agree with kkim120 here. You should definitely read the bios of the doctors. ^^
Based on my research so far I know that Dr. Yoo of Pitangui (Brazil etc.), Dr. Yoo of Dream (Germany, Duesseldorf), Dr, Kim of Belita (US), Dr. Han of FaceHan (Germany) etc.
I think you asked for those who trained in countries with Caucasian population and not nations like Japan or China, hehe.
Again, research in what kind of procedures the doctor specializes!

I don´t know about such a thread, sorry. ^^

Regards
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wankoreanose
Rumor8 Sep 08100
Hi everyone
I would like to share with u guys my surgery experience in Korea because thanks to this forum, i took bits and pieces from everyone’s experience and came here with confidence.
After searching for quite a while and reading your notes, I decided to list a dozen of PS clinics and visit others once i was there.
If you dont speak korean or have a korean friend to translate for you, well your choices will be restricted for example,I especially love the cinderella clinic in Apgujeong ( US 5500 for revision) and Banobagi Clinic in Yeoksam where they do beautiful noses(both use silicon implant and it damn looks natural).
BK clinic, Dream clinic, Realcosmetic, Clinic 9 , SS beauty were busy clinics as well,they look all popular.
But after being a week in seoul, I finally picked Dr Jung, because I had breathing issues and needed an ENT to get it fixed and he was the only one who said he could do a scar revision for my nose. Even though I didnt like his style at all, I was thinking, will come back later on if I want to get those movie stars. Dr Jung’s clinic is probably one of the modest clinics beyond all the clinics.
He did send me a chauffeur to pick me up from the aiport. I finally met him and we talked about what he thinks will look good on me ( goretex, alar base resection, scar revision, oesteotomy, tiplasty,…)
I didnt really realise how serious this operation would be. Before entering the operation room, I started crying, i was so scared and I wanted to get the hell out of there, thinking s*** i should go to a plastic surgeon, Banobagi, cinderealla, or Dr Kim, i was so scared to look uglier than what i was already! LOL
Anyways, they calmed me down, the last thing i remember was the anaesthesist telling me how i was going to fall asleep soon …
Indeed, the operation was at 1pm, i woke up at 6pm. Felt so strong, a chauffeur drove me home and it was all done.
I went to visit the clinic every single day after surgery, to get my nose cleaned. The nurses there are great, one speaks english, Jun Soo Yeon. I cried so many times during this process, she knew how to comfort me… I even cried without seeing my nose, when they took off the cast, i didnt even dare to look at it, i was sure that it was ugly but as long as my breathing was better, i didnt want to look.
It is nearly week 3 after surgery now and my nose is definately looking better than before. I went to the clinic again, and they took pictures of the post operation,and it is very natural, not much changes but im overall happy with the result, didnt expect it. Now, even it is swollen, i like the shape of it. Dr Jung was great for the after care, i got to see and talk with him every time i had an issue, means nearly everyday! I think i was a pain in the a*** but they never made me feel i was bothering nor the surgeon nor the nurses.
I am still in Korea, sightseeing and shopping.Koreans are wonderful people, even though there is definately a language barrier, I always find them hepful.
but soincerely, if you are looking for movie stars noses, dont go to him if you only want a improved nose that suit ur face then go for it!

Hope it helps you all.
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wishingstarReview6 Oct 14-100
Yup, that person would be me! I actually had my nose done at Dream via that method (tipplasty + diced cartilage mixed with fat then injected into the bridge). The reason I went with that method for the bridge was because I was worried about silicon infection rates, shifting, extrusion, and general complications. Also, due to some slight deviation in my nose and facial structure (which Dr Park mentioned he could not fix without the rest of my face looking deviated – so we left that alone), I was worried the silicone implant would make the deviation look even more obvious.

The tipplasty turned out nice and pretty natural, but sadly most of my bridge is gone (as far as I can tell from the official before/after photos I took from the clinic the day of surgery and the day bandages came off 7 days post op). I only needed a 2-2.5 mm augmentatation for the bridge, but I don’t see any difference at all in the pics! (even some of the nurses mentioned “hmm… it’s… extremely natural”) Natural is great, but I do wish there was *some* change at least in the bridge after going through all that. It could be that I just happened to absorb it quickly, and it’s supposed to vary from individual to individual.

On the bright side, it does look almost like I had nothing done, but I do see improvement in the more refined tip when viewed in person! In photos, however, it looks like there’s not a ton of difference for either bridge or tip (perhaps because cameras tend to generally flatten the subject?). I’m around 17 days post op, so we’ll see if it continues to deswell and change further after another month or two, as I recall reading somewhere that there may still be changes a few months later.


I’m debating whether to go in for a top up on the fat + new diced cartiilage, go in for a silicon revision, or just leave it alone as is… we’ll see after a few months!

I’d love to hear how others’ experiences were with the fat mixed with diced cartilage method – perhaps others had more success with this method? ?
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wishingstarReview1 May 15-100
Hi misssweety..np happy to help 🙂 I had the fat and diced cartilage injected onto the bridge and also radix. One thing you should know is the max bridge projection is around 2.5 mm at the time of injection. i liked how my nose looked during days 1-3…then it rapidly went down until no fat is left on the bridge (the ever so slight bump i had on my nose reappeared) and maybe around 5-10% is left on the area between the eyes. One thing about fat is it doesn’t stay put and spreads…I feel like some of it absorbed and some of it may have spread to areas of my face near the nose. The consultants mentioned you can’t get a predictable, defined shape with this method sadly.

I’m going back to fix my bridge, some deviation, and hopefully do some alar work since my nose looks exactly the same from the front (and not in a good way!)

I haven’t decided whether to do donated rib or silicon for my revision yet.

I’m worried about calcification of silicon implants, as well as extrusion/infection/shifting, but rib can also warp or absorb unevenly.

Have you considered donated rib if you’re also worried about silicon?
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wishingstarReview29 May 15-100
I did fat injection in my nose bridge at Dream last yr and it was gone within a month. my nose looks pretty much the same as before even though I had a tipplasty. I’m now going back for revision with silicon or donated rib. 🙁
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wishingstarReview6 Jun 15-100
Hey guys, just had alarplasty via the intranasal method (insids nostril method) yesterday and good news – no visible scars!

Bad news is my nose still looks too wide…. did you guys find your nose looked less wide as time went on and swelling subsided?

Or are alarplasty results usually immediate?

Looks like I may need to plan for a revision unfortunately if it doesn’t decrease in width in a few days/weeks 😡
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wishingstarReview7 Jun 15-100
Just had fat graft in my forehead, temple, and nasolabial folds with PRP at Dream a few days ago, and I’m feeling rather depressed with how I look so far. I had asked for a very subtle change (just to very slightly fill out dents in my forehead and temples), but my forehead looks round like a blow up doll, and my face looks like a distorted plastic surgery monster. I need to fly home and see people in a week, but I honestly don’t see how I am going to look human within that time.

I know it is still early and there is swelling, but how much can I realistically expect it to go down if I did fat graft with prp? From how I look now, I only really want around 10% of it to remain. 🙁

Has anyone ever successfully managed to reverse a fat graft procedure?
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wishingstarReview18 Jun 15-100
Hi everyone! I’m 2 weeks post op from revision rhino and fat graft with prp to forehead and nasolabial lines and wanted to give an update!

Swellung went down a lot (the ultrasound/deswelling laser treatments helped a lot), and my forehead and smile lines look a bit more natural now. Whew! I’m also liking the alarplasty results for the most part now …looks like a lot of the width had been caused by swelling.

I do have some concerns about my revised tip/bridge, though. There’s a lower dip / dent that appeared in the area my tip and bridge meet (i think it’s called the supratip break point?), which then makes it look like I have a bumpy nose.

Has anyone experienced this dent going away naturally before?

I’m seriously hoping it’s due to residual tip or uneven bridge swelling…not sure what to do if it doesn’t resolve itself in a few weeks.

Also, the septal extension graft placed in my tip did project my tip more…but it also looks my nose look slightly too long and droopy when smiling now. (There nothing I dislike more than a droopy tip..in fact, one of the reasons for my primary tipplasty had been to insert a collumelar strut to correct my original droopy tip.) I miss the slightly upturned angle after my primary rhino and before my revision and also worry the tip may be a bit too long and pointy. Not sure if this will resolve itself either as healing progresses but it seems unlikely.

If anyone has had a similar experience: can i reasonably expect the tip to shrink in projection and length after a septal extension graft is placed in the tip as time goes on and swelling continues to disappear? Or does length and projection pretty much stay the same?
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wishingstarReview18 Jun 15-100
Hmm I got charged a bit by Dream for my revision, too, because they claimed that the revision technique was different from the primary technique. My primary tipplasty was using ear cartilage to extend the tip and septal cartilage for the collumelar strut. I said I was unsatisfied with the tip and wanted more tip projection, so he suggested using a septal extensiom graft to achieve more projection. Though the end goal was the same (more tip projection), I still had to pay a fair amount for tip revision (although it was somewhat discounted) since the technique the dr chose was different. … wasn’t super happy about having to shell out for a “free” revision, but what’s done is done now i suppose.

Just a heads up for anyone who may be thinking about choosing a clinic with “free revision”…be sure to ask about the specifics upfront. It may not turn out to be free!
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wishingstarReview18 Jun 15100
Hi everyone! I’m 2 weeks post op from revision rhino and fat graft with prp to forehead and nasolabial lines and wanted to give an update!

Swellung went down a lot (the ultrasound/deswelling laser treatments helped a lot), and my forehead and smile lines look a bit more natural now. Whew! I’m also liking the alarplasty results for the most part now …looks like a lot of the width had been caused by swelling.

I do have some concerns about my revised tip/bridge, though. There’s a lower dip / dent that appeared in the area my tip and bridge meet (i think it’s called the supratip break point?), which then makes it look like I have a bumpy nose.

Has anyone experienced this dent going away naturally before?

I’m seriously hoping it’s due to residual tip or uneven bridge swelling…not sure what to do if it doesn’t resolve itself in a few weeks.

Also, the septal extension graft placed in my tip did project my tip more…but it also looks my nose look slightly too long and droopy when smiling now. (There nothing I dislike more than a droopy tip..in fact, one of the reasons for my primary tipplasty had been to insert a collumelar strut to correct my original droopy tip.) I miss the slightly upturned angle after my primary rhino and before my revision and also worry the tip may be a bit too long and pointy. Not sure if this will resolve itself either as healing progresses but it seems unlikely.

If anyone has had a similar experience: can i reasonably expect the tip to shrink in projection and length after a septal extension graft is placed in the tip as time goes on and swelling continues to disappear? Or does length and projection pretty much stay the same?
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wishingstarReview7 Aug 16-100
I’ve had nose surgery at Dream 3 times – primary, 1st revision, and 2nd revision. The first two times didn’t give me the result I wanted, as I felt there was very little change both times. I’m really hoping this 2nd revision will be the last!

In terms of eye surgeries here, I’ve heard that Dr. You, Dr. Anna, and Dr. Cho are the usual ones for eye surgeries (esp incisional as I heard Dr. Park only does non incisional eye surgeries) – not sure how their actual results are though. Has anyone here done double eyelid surgery and/or lateral at Dream before?
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/dream-clinic-rhinoplasty-and-non-incisional-double-eyelid-surgery.948471/page-2#post-30509007
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wishingstarReview10 Aug 16-100
Hey Gats, thanks for your suggestion regarding the scars. Great point – last time, I was told to wait a few weeks before applying to scar gel by one person at the clinic… but I ended up with keloids (I regret listening to the clinic coordinator). Great idea about the vaseline… I may try that. I may also try to apply scar gel earlier this time. I noticed Kelocote’s Australian site’s FAQs say it’s OK to apply the gel right after stitches come out… but then another brand for silicone sheets say to wait 1-2 weeks after surgery. Hmm….

My first fat graft with PRP went OK. I was mostly happy with the results in the middle of my forehead 1 year later, but the fat completely disappeared from my smile lines (due to more motion there) and from the sides of my forehead / temples. Usually, fat graft involves 2 times. When you pay for the first time, they factor in that you will come in again for a 2nd time (you only need to pay the anesthesia fee the 2nd time). I did it at Dream both times. I can’t seem to remember the price from the first time off the top of my head (Since I did it with some other surgeries), but the anethesia fee for the 2nd injection should be ~300,000 KRW. I want to say it was around 1,000,000 KRW or 900,000 KRW the first time, but I am not sure I am 100% remembering correctly. I have some pretty ugly and obvious scars from the sites where the fat was taken from though (thighs, stomach). Hoping for better results on the scars this time.

I’m a bit nervous right now because my forehead is huge right now, though. I’m hoping most of it is due to swelling… otherwise, I may need to get some of it removed if it doesn’t go down. It did go down a lot last time after I requested laser therapy to help with swelling at the clinic last year, so I’m hoping to be able to do the laser therapy again this time.
Fat Grafthttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/when-to-start-using-scar-gel-kelocote-silicone-sheets-after-surgery-to-prevent-scars.949623/#post-30517270
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wishingstarReview12 Aug 16-100
Hey Peach! Sorry to hear about your experience – I was / am in a similar boat as you. I just had my 2nd revision (3rd surgery) with Dr. Park after the first 2 nose surgeries (alarplasty, tipplasty with ear cartilage / septal extension graft, 2x bridge augmentation with diced cartilage mixed with fat), with him did not give me the result I wanted (not enough change) and also left me with a hard bump that formed on my nose bridge from the fat / diced cartilage injection that could be seen under the skin. Just had a 3rd surgery with him last week to get the hard bump removed + bridge revised with silicone + additional ear cartilage graft added to the tip + revision alarplasty. I’ll report back on the results after healing. Also just sent you a PM with more info. 🙂

I’m really nervous thus far, though, since the silicone implant he put in seems a few mm off center (it starts too far left between my eyes and is not centered then slants to the right). The bridge height looks pretty good and a bit more defined with the silicone (vs. the diced cartilage / fat injection, which can have unpredictable results and even cause bumps)… not sure if it will go down a bit more. Granted, my face is slightly deviated, but I was always under the impression that the top of the implant should start in the middle between the eyes and not slightly to one side. I’m praying that this is due to uneven swelling, but I’m not sure if the top of the implant where he fixed it under the periosteum will actually move? 🙁 Hoping for the best!

Keep us posted on what you end up deciding re: your revision!
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/dream-clinic-rhinoplasty-and-non-incisional-double-eyelid-surgery.948471/page-3#post-30522805
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wishingstarReview17 Aug 16-100
Hi Purseforumers,

I wanted to share a warning about some problems I am having now with Dream. I have had 3 nose surgeries with Dr. Park (primary + 2 revisions), with each surgery to correct problems / complications caused by the surgeries there before.

A small, hard lump (from diced cartilage mixed with fat that Dr. Park injected there previously to augment to bridge) formed under the skin on one side of my nose bridge after the 2nd surgery. I paid a lot to fly back from the USA to have the bump removed surgically last week.

However, not only did the clinic charge me for the 3rd surgery (despite previous promises that it would be free for me due to the medical complications), ****the hard lump was not fully removed*** after the 3rd surgery (2nd revision) last week. I can still feel it whenever i touch my nose, and my skin is starting to turn a bit red there due to damage from the lump.

I have been unsuccessfully trying to get the clinic to reply in order to see Dr Park about it during my brief layover in Korea tomorrow….otherwise, I would have to pay a fee thousand USD more and burn up all my vaca days for another yeat if i had to fly back without getting it resolved and talking to the doctor. From past experience, It usually takes a long time for Dream to respond when after surgery problems arise. (There were even some times when I was trying to coordinate the bump removal surgery that they would take weeks, and I had to send several follow up emails.)

However, the English coordinator finally responded today saying she “checked with the consultant” who said it could not possibly be a remaining lump. Basically, they flat out *denied* that there is a remaining problem…..even though part of the hard lump is still clearly felt on the side of my nose bridge!

I am extremely upset and anxious about the poor aftercare / lack of satifsactory response / flat out denial by the clinic that there is still a small hard lump on my nose caused by my 2nd surgery there that was supposed to be removed by my 3rd surgery (which i flew back for from the usa) i have spent around $8000 USD in total counting each time’s additional surgery fee and feel like I get ignored after I have paid…the attitude is different before paying. I have not been able to successfully get anyone to talk to Dr Park for me about my case or get any response as to what treatment may be needed to fully remove it. I don’t even want a perfect nose….i just want the medical complication and hard lump caused by the last surgery to be fully removed.

Does anyone have another contact at Dream I may try? I have been corresponding with Julia through dreamoffice1@gmail.com, and I am thinking I may need to try another / all contacts to try and get the issue resolved asap.

Any advice would be welcome and appreciated, and I also hope my problematic experience helps others on this forum. I will also write more later regarding my unsatisfactory experiences with all 3 of my surgeries there (primary rhino + 2 revisions).
Nose, Aftercarehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/3-failed-nose-surgeries-at-dream-clinic-refusing-to-take-responsibility-for-hard-lump-that-formed.950038/
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WormyReview2 Nov 15-100
Hi girls,

I just came back from Korea!! Thanks for all the reviews.

After reading all the reviews from Purse Forum. I managed to shortlisted a list of hospitals down to 4.
Before I flew to Korea, I’ve contacted all the hospitals and booked in for consultation. ( Please note, each consultation took me at least 2 to 3 hours, please leave enough time for each of your consultation. ) Please do not worry if you don’t understand Korean, as most of the clinics has English translator.

Just like most of the girls, I always wanted to have a good looking face and a sexy body. My nose have a hump, look a little bit deviated and a little bit too big for my face.Therefore, I’ve decided to fix my nose and get a breast implant.

So, I went for consultation in Regen, Banobagi, DARPS & DREAM. I am quite happy with the consultation and services in Regen & Banobagi. On the second day, I went to DREAM for consultation. As K couture has a good experience with Dr Park in Dream for rhinoplasty surgery. So, I felt super excited to see him. He is an experience doctor and a fixer. He looked into my nose and suggested me what he think is the best for my nose and I am happy with it, Unfortunately, the only thing that turn me down with the hospital is the breast augmentation doctor. He showed no passionate, not professional during the consultation and a bit rude. Long story short, as everyone know, normal human breast are asymmetrical in sizes. In order to make our breast look slightly same in sizes, the doctor will need to use a different CC breast implant. So, I requested him to improve this issues for me during the surgery, He refused to do it and told me it is not a big deal. ( Not a big deal to different size breast, you must be kidding me.) End up, I didn’t choose DREAM as my idea hospital. ( Because of him )

Finally, I went to DARPS for my consultation. First of all, I met Dr Koo for my breast augmentation and he left me with a good impression. He has suggested what are the procedures he will be performing on my breast. Most of all, he make me feel confidence of leaving my boobies on his hand.:graucho: Then, I walked into another room to see Dr Choi for my rhinoplasty surgery. Dr Choi is very gentle and patient.

At the end of the day, I have made up my mind and decided to do my surgery with DARPS. It is all because of the doctors, nurses and girls who worked in DARPS are friendly, helpful and providing good services.

It’s been two weeks after the surgery, my nose and breast are still swollen and bruised. Hopefully it will go away soon and I can get a good look of the very final result.

PS:
1) If you decided to go through an operation, please make sure someone can look after you.
2) Book in a proper hotel, you will need a good rest and clean place after the surgery.
3) You will need to wear loose clothes after the surgery, so be prepare.
4) Leave enough time for doctor consultations. 2 appointments a day preferably and 3 is max.
5) Leave yourself enough recovery time in Korea, at least minimum 1 to 2 weeks.
6) Taxi driver in Korea are less likely to understand English. Please show them the address or name of the place in Korean.

Again, thanks for all you helps. I hope this short summary of my experience can help some of you for future plan.
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Breasts Augmentation
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/daprs-my-choice-for-face-contouring-fat-graft-with-dr-lee-and-ba-with-dr-koo.904509/page-12#post-29388661
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WormyReview2 Nov 15100
Hi girls,

I just came back from Korea!! Thanks for all the reviews.

After reading all the reviews from Purse Forum. I managed to shortlisted a list of hospitals down to 4.
Before I flew to Korea, I’ve contacted all the hospitals and booked in for consultation. ( Please note, each consultation took me at least 2 to 3 hours, please leave enough time for each of your consultation. ) Please do not worry if you don’t understand Korean, as most of the clinics has English translator.

Just like most of the girls, I always wanted to have a good looking face and a sexy body. My nose have a hump, look a little bit deviated and a little bit too big for my face.Therefore, I’ve decided to fix my nose and get a breast implant.

So, I went for consultation in Regen, Banobagi, DARPS & DREAM. I am quite happy with the consultation and services in Regen & Banobagi. On the second day, I went to DREAM for consultation. As K couture has a good experience with Dr Park in Dream for rhinoplasty surgery. So, I felt super excited to see him. He is an experience doctor and a fixer. He looked into my nose and suggested me what he think is the best for my nose and I am happy with it, Unfortunately, the only thing that turn me down with the hospital is the breast augmentation doctor. He showed no passionate, not professional during the consultation and a bit rude. Long story short, as everyone know, normal human breast are asymmetrical in sizes. In order to make our breast look slightly same in sizes, the doctor will need to use a different CC breast implant. So, I requested him to improve this issues for me during the surgery, He refused to do it and told me it is not a big deal. ( Not a big deal to different size breast, you must be kidding me.) End up, I didn’t choose DREAM as my idea hospital. ( Because of him )

Finally, I went to DARPS for my consultation. First of all, I met Dr Koo for my breast augmentation and he left me with a good impression. He has suggested what are the procedures he will be performing on my breast. Most of all, he make me feel confidence of leaving my boobies on his hand.:graucho: Then, I walked into another room to see Dr Choi for my rhinoplasty surgery. Dr Choi is very gentle and patient.

At the end of the day, I have made up my mind and decided to do my surgery with DARPS. It is all because of the doctors, nurses and girls who worked in DARPS are friendly, helpful and providing good services.

It’s been two weeks after the surgery, my nose and breast are still swollen and bruised. Hopefully it will go away soon and I can get a good look of the very final result.

PS:
1) If you decided to go through an operation, please make sure someone can look after you.
2) Book in a proper hotel, you will need a good rest and clean place after the surgery.
3) You will need to wear loose clothes after the surgery, so be prepare.
4) Leave enough time for doctor consultations. 2 appointments a day preferably and 3 is max.
5) Leave yourself enough recovery time in Korea, at least minimum 1 to 2 weeks.
6) Taxi driver in Korea are less likely to understand English. Please show them the address or name of the place in Korean.

Again, thanks for all you helps. I hope this short summary of my experience can help some of you for future plan.
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Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/daprs-my-choice-for-face-contouring-fat-graft-with-dr-lee-and-ba-with-dr-koo.904509/page-12#post-29388661
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x_JiEun_xReview21 Jul 10-100
my sister and I are in Korea right now. we went to several consultations at different places and got the surgery done today.
Consultation Reviews
DREAM Clinic in Apgujeong
You need an appointment to have a consultation because this place is really well known and busy.
The lobby is kind of gloomy and gray. It felt like entering a dungeon.
The receptionists are moderately nice/welcoming.
They have a consultation form in English.
You meet with the consultant (not a doctor or nurse) for less than five minutes. Right after they will ask you when you want to schedule your surgery. It is smart to look around at other places before making your final decision.
The consultation tells you what procedure is best for you and tells you about the specific procedure but doesn’t ask you what you want.
No consultation fee.
PRICE: micro incision and med epi 1,800,000 won
JELIM Clinic in Apgujeong (right next to Dream)
You need an appointment to have a consultation. This is place is very well known also but their reputation is more for nose jobs.
The lobby looks like a sad attempt for a luxurious, modern, Victorian feel. But actually it just looks a poor designed vampire house. (My sister calls it a vampire house but I actually thought it was okay).
The receptionists are unwelcoming, not very friendly, kind of cold(like vampires). Their uniforms are feminine back suits and they looked like they came out of tv show, True Blood.
They have a consultation form in English.
You meet with the doctor for 2 minutes who tells you which procedure you should get. Does not ask you what you want.
Then you meet with a consultant and she asks you when you want to schedule the surgery and how much it will be.
No consultation fee.
PRICE: micro incision and med epi 1,700,000 won
OZ Clinic in Gangnam
We made an appointment but they probably take walk-ins.
The lobby is small, contemporary yet minimalistic design. It is so small in minimal that there isn’t must to say about it.
The receptionists were very friendly and nice.
You meet with the doctor and asks you what you want, tells you what he suggests and engages you in conversation. He can speak english very well. You talk with the doctor for about 10 to 15 minutes and do not meet with a separate consultant.
Consultation fee of 5000 won.
note: OZ does not carry the same reputation as Dream or Jelim. (which surprised me since its so popular soompi, but actually its not so popular in korea)
PRICE: partial incision and med epi 1,500,000 won
April 31st Clinic in Nonhyeon(Gangnam)
We did not need to make an appointment but they probably prefer it because at times they get pretty busy.
The lobby is medium sized to two waiting areas. It is contemporary, vibrant and bright. The brightest out of the 4.
The receptionists were very friendly and nice.
they do not have an english form but the receptionist are very willing to help you fill out the form.
You meet with the consultant for a long time (if they aren’t busy). She explains the various procedures thoroughly and asks you what you want. then suggests what they recommend. they show you before and after pictures of other people. then you meet with the doctor for 2 minutes and tells you what he thinks.
consultation fee of 5000 won.
PRICE: partial incision and med epi 1,900,000 won
note about prices: the price are with the two procedures combines. if you get the procedures done at separate time you would have to pay more.
the price at OZ was very cheap. it kind of scared us. we would rather pay more and get it done well.
to be continued…
Eyeshttps://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/27115-double-eyelid-surgery-thread/?do=findComment&comment=13553032
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zettaiRumor15 Mar 12100
^^ how are u ?

I’m half japanese korean girl .. yeah I know that’s not commom ^O^ lol
nihonjin no kata ga imasuka ? onegai zettai ni ano V to orenjiiro no shinryousho ikanaidekudasai. asoko no ishasan wa warui na hito na no. watashi o shinjitekudasai.

I’m looking for a nose job without foreign material but flexible and a V line surgery.

I don’t want to do it at VIP (so many victims in the korean blog “naver” , I’m not sure if there are translations in english.. but mzain translated a part in cozycot p.293), so please don’t post anything about this clinic anymore. and There was enough message about it.
So here is a list of clinic I’ve founded useful for people who seeks a nose job :
– O&young (http://www.koclub.com) a lots of technics can be used, please ask the dr.
– Belitaclinic (http://www.belitaclinic.co.kr/) the dr is very nice. He use ear cartilage for tip and fat graft to the bridge. speak a little english. Good for people who don’t need much dorsum elevation.
– regenclinic (http://eng.regen.co.kr) famous clinic. the doc there have many technics to augment the bridge, depends on individuals and use ear cartilage for the tip. all the patients there are very beautiful !
– cinderella clinic (http://www.cindyclinic.com/) who doesn’t know this clinic in seoul ? the famous doc used to be rhino specialist. (he did some celebs) but why he have not been mentionned here ?
– Wonjin (http://www.parkwonjin.co.kr/) big clinic.. I’ve read a korean guy did a nose job and chin there and very satified with the result. ( again many technics)
– dreamclinic (http://www.dreamsurgery.co.kr/about/english/staffs.aspx) I think it was in this clinic that i’ve heard of something like injection using own septal cartilage liquid.. or someting like that…
many more technique, many more clinics… and every year the cosmetic research progress fastly.
Maybe next year they’ll find a permanent solution to augment the bridge without cuts and scars. I know a semi permanent injection (6 months) is performed by the doctor Wu woffles (http://www.woffleswu.com/).
In Japan there is also this tech in many many clinics..
But still the tip need a cartilage foundation.. so probably the ear cartilage graft will be maintained.

But remember usually you’ll have tip projection with ear cartilage, and bridge augmention with septal cartilage, fat graft , injection.. except if you have no bridge at all the last option (means if you have necrosis, accident…) is the costal rib graft, but nowadays it’s more a medical reconstructive surgery than a cosmetic surgery.

I will be in Korea in april or may.. I have a korean boy friend who will help me to translate. ( i don’t speak well korean.. very basics things)
If you need help .. i’m here ^^
Nosehttps://forum.purseblog.com/threads/asian-nose-job-3.731363/page-31#post-21314581

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